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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
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In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Slavvy posted:

You have just pushed me over the edge into just watching the mosfilm war and peace instead of trying to finish the book itself

those movies kick tremendous rear end.

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Deadly Ham Sandwich
Aug 19, 2009
Smellrose

No one in their foreign unit even died. One Russian tank shoots at them and it was too scary. That's it. Call it quits.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

HiroProtagonist posted:

did you encounter an immigrant on the street suddenly and get startled?

most of the 'immigrants' around here are english retirees so what do you think

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:

No one in their foreign unit even died. One Russian tank shoots at them and it was too scary. That's it. Call it quits.

After getting that giant Ukrainian tattoo on his upper arm too. Shame.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



HiroProtagonist posted:

oh wow horrible stuff happens in the horrible stuff zone? i'm out

same

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
It also seems like random foreigners are not in their own units anymore and just embedded into random Ukrainian units with NATO equipment. The communication isn't great looking at the gopro footage I have seen.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:

No one in their foreign unit even died. One Russian tank shoots at them and it was too scary. That's it. Call it quits.

i cant believe libs will something kitchen something heat

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


Lol US Treasury Chief: Ukraine Aid Is the Best Boost for Global Economy

www.voanews.com posted:



Redoubling support for war-stricken Ukraine is the "single best" way to aid the global economy, U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said Sunday, along with boosting emerging economies and tackling debt distress.Yellen also said on the sidelines of a G20 finance ministers' summit in India she would "push back" on criticism there was a tradeoff between aid to Ukraine and developing nations.

"Ending this war is first and foremost a moral imperative," she told reporters in Gandhinagar. "But it's also the single best thing we can do for the global economy."

Yellen also pointed to efforts to tackle debt distress faced by struggling economies, bank reform and a global tax deal, and warned it was "premature" to talk of lifting tariffs on China.

Russia's invasion of Ukraine — both countries are global breadbaskets that together exported almost a quarter of the world's wheat supply — triggered shockwaves in economies worldwide by sending prices for food and fuel shooting up.

Japan's Finance Minister Shunichi Suzuki, speaking after a G7 meeting of ministers, "reconfirmed the G7's unshakeable support" to Ukraine.

"We confirmed that Russia-owned assets that are under the G7's supervision would not be transferred until Russia pays damages to Ukraine," Suzuki said, adding that Moscow should also "pay long-term reconstruction costs."

Any discussion on Ukraine is awkward for G20 host India, which has not condemned Russia's invasion but is also part of the Quad grouping alongside Australia, the United States and Japan.

Yellen also cited debt restructuring progress in Zambia, which she discussed with Chinese officials in Beijing last week, and said she expected Ghana and Sri Lanka debt treatments would be finalized soon.

She said it was still too soon to lift restrictions placed on China during a trade war launched by former U.S. President Donald Trump.

"Tariffs were put in place because we had concerns with unfair trade practices on China's side, and our concerns with those practices remain, they really haven't been addressed," Yellen said. "Perhaps over time this is an area where we could make progress, but I'd say it is premature to use this as an area for de-escalation."

Yellen pointed to other work tackling debt distress and the reform of multilateral development banks, including the World Bank and other regional lenders, in efforts she said could unlock $200 billion over the next decade.

More than half of all low-income countries are near or in debt distress, double the case in 2015, she said.

G20 finance chiefs and central bank heads are due to meet Monday and Tuesday in Gandhinagar in Gujarat, the state where India's independence leader Mahatma Gandhi was born.

World Bank chief Ajay Banga warned of a "deep mistrust... quietly pulling the Global North and South apart" over issues such as the climate change crisis, post-pandemic recovery efforts, the war in Ukraine and a lack of progress in the fight against poverty.

"The Global South's frustration is understandable," Banga said in an op-ed. "In many ways they are paying the price for the prosperity of others. When they should be ascendant, they're concerned promised resources will be diverted to Ukraine's reconstruction; they feel aspirations are being constrained because energy rules aren't applied universally, and they're worried a burgeoning generation will be locked into a prison of poverty."

The International Monetary Fund said finding common efforts to tackle the weak global economy would be crucial.

The world will be looking for joint action to address rising economic fragmentation, slowing growth, and high inflation," the IMF said in a statement ahead of the meeting.

The G20 will also discuss cryptocurrency regulations, as well as making access to financing to mitigate and adapt to the impacts of climate change easier for developing nations."In the Global North, climate change means emissions reductions," Banga said.

"But in the Global South, it is a matter of survival, because hurricanes are stronger, heat-resistant seeds are in short supply, drought is destroying farms and towns, and floods are washing away decades of progress."

A newly agreed first step on a fairer distribution of tax revenues from multinational firms reached by 138 countries Wednesday is also set to be delivered during the G20 talks.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Regarde Aduck posted:

most of the 'immigrants' around here are english retirees so what do you think

so that's a yes? :mrgw:

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die



This looks like a Monty Python sketch

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

What's the chevron ? https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1680508476282339329

Lol
https://twitter.com/juliasaquilter/status/1680552415798370304

Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

i never noticed the nutsack before

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Nonsense posted:

Saakashvili is a hero and will crush Putin's armies

the saak zone

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Endman posted:

This looks like a Monty Python sketch

It's a comedy film with a historic character, so yeah it's similar to their style.

Lostconfused has issued a correction as of 01:51 on Jul 17, 2023

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Lostconfused posted:

It's a comedy film with a historic character, so yeah it's similar to their style.

Oh cool! What's it called?

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Endman posted:

Oh cool! What's it called?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Vasilievich%3A_Back_to_the_Future

The subtitles on youtube are so so, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3xVdxDWFWU

not sure if anyone made a better version.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/snekotron/status/1680683987478487041

guess we're going to see a lot more lancet killfeeds because a bunch of officers are convincing themselves that the orcs have ran out of drones

BearsBearsBears
Aug 4, 2022
How do you end a 3 minute video about the horrors of war and its effects on the soldiers with "their departure was slightly delayed because they bought the wrong tickets"? Just cut that part out and say they went home on a train. What a very strange editing decision.

Frosted Flake posted:

Is that true? America needs more stuff like that. All other institutions and symbols have collapsing legitimacy. A relic... that could be something people could believe in.
It's all true, I just don't know if the sword is still at the New York public library. If you're looking for a different sword you can try getting Nobuo Fujita's sword, it's currently in Brookings, Oregen. Nobuo Fujita was a World War 2 pilot who fire bombed Oregon. He didn't manage to kill anybody or start a major fire there because it was too damp at the time. After World War 2 he became a pacifist and was later invited to Oregon as a goodwill gesture. He brought along his 400 year-old ancestral samurai sword, the very sword he had brought with him in his plane when he first bombed Oregon. He planned to either present it as a gift to the people to Oregon or to commit ritual suicide with it, depending on how things turned out. I wasn't able to find out anything about the swords pre-WW2 history. 400 years would put it being forged in the Edo Period. This sword would have been around for the entire Meji Restoration, the Boshin War, the Russo-Japanese War, World War 1, and World War 2. I wonder what it would think of its last owner being a pacifist.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


this is a funny film , pro watch

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005


No ring - 1/10.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:

No one in their foreign unit even died. One Russian tank shoots at them and it was too scary. That's it. Call it quits.

trust a tankie to take the side of the tank smdh -_-

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Frosted Flake posted:

restoring the Stuarts is part of the overall project,

I support this but only because they were so bad at running things, maybe they could sink Britain. However if it's ancient legitimacy you crave, Charles claims to be descended from Cerdic, king of Wessex.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

parliamentarianism, monarchy, all aspects of government in the commonwealth are awful

My local government is not too poo poo from what I can tell. You can call the mayor at 2am if there is a tree on the road and he will sort it out.

Ardennes posted:

It doesn't apply to the British crown, but there is an argument to be made historically, that strong central monarchy (i.e a strong central government) was in fact better for people than a weak one governed by the nobility, i.e Poland-Lithuania. Britain itself obviously saw continual constitutional changes over time but never experienced the degree of deadlock that Poland did since the minor nobility and gentry had more of a say in affairs.

I'm not sure if it's what you're getting at but the British crown has never really been a strong central monarchy afaik.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

sum posted:

At least some scholars of classical Greece consider the advent of tyrants as a progressive political reform. Traditionally Greek city-states were dominated by aristocrats, whose rule was of course totally arbitrary and legitimized by the mere fact that they already had power. Meanwhile a tyrant had an actual responsibility to govern for the polis as a whole, at least theoretically. There's some parallels here with the "democratic" West, where the politicians for some reason seem unable to actually change anything, and "undemocratic" China, which has a massively popular government that is manifestly more interested in the welfare of its citizens.

there was a super interesting interview with hudson where he talks about tyrants with the power to override the wealthy and to forgive debt. this was a big part of why they were demonized. i think this is it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqe3IQQo_t4

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

KomradeX posted:

Funny enough he just put one out 2 hours ago

it was 2 of them and they both ruled

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


crepeface posted:

there was a super interesting interview with hudson where he talks about tyrants with the power to override the wealthy and to forgive debt. this was a big part of why they were demonized. i think this is it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqe3IQQo_t4

It's always funny to me that the biggest criticism of populism is that some guy comes along and gains power by giving the people what they want rather than following the imaginary rules and that's the worst thing ever.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Frosted Flake posted:

The Land and the King are one. So, every person is the body and blood of the King, the Crown Jewels are our treasures, the country's money has his likeness on it because it belong to all of us.

That he's failing to live up to the standards of kingship is disappointing, obviously, so until a worthy king appears, socialism will have to address the inequality and material needs the King should.

Historical materialism has wormed into you already. It Is Known that an artilleryman under that force becomes a vanguardist, sooner or later. After all, Engels himself was a Prussian artillery officer (lol)

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
https://twitter.com/incontextmedia/status/1679951902543613956?s=20

lol

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Endman posted:

This looks like a Monty Python sketch

watching the movie, it feels like a charming comedy.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Hammerstein posted:

Those old Mosfilm movies really are something. They depicted the Germans as quite competent and not as cartoonishly evil villains mowed down by the hundreds at the hands of unshakeable heroes, like in western war movies. And the battle scenes often are really massive, like in the Liberation series. Mosfilm also has a great 4 part War and Peace series.

Mowing down Nazis by the score was also a convention of Yugoslav partisan movies.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

dead gay comedy forums posted:

Historical materialism has wormed into you already. It Is Known that an artilleryman under that force becomes a vanguardist, sooner or later. After all, Engels himself was a Prussian artillery officer (lol)

TBF the counterpoint is that armchair warlord guy who's pretty chud if you browse his twitter feed long enough.

I guess it's because artillery officers work on using literal industrial death machines to their full potential while tankers/infantry/pilots can think that they're main characters of war. Meanwhile intelligence is probably neolib central there because they're staring at spreadsheets and media all day or something. In other words it's how artillery jobs work that ends up with a monarcho-socialist and republican troop on the anti-slava social media discourse.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

mawarannahr posted:

this is a funny film , pro watch

quote:

The story begins in 1973 Moscow, where engineer Aleksandr "Shurik" Timofeyev (Aleksandr Demyanenko) is working on a time machine in his apartment. By accident, he sends Ivan Vasilievich Bunsha (Yury Yakovlev), superintendent of his apartment building, and George Miloslavsky (Leonid Kuravlyov), a burglar, back into the time of Ivan IV "The Terrible". The pair is forced to disguise themselves, with Bunsha dressing up as Ivan IV (Tsar) and Miloslavsky as a Knyaz (Duke) of the same name. At the same time, the real Ivan IV (also played by Yury Yakovlev) is sent by the same machine into Shurik's apartment, and he has to deal with modern-day life while Shurik tries to fix the machine so that everyone can be brought back to their proper place in time.

This sounds loving amazing and I'm going to watch it.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

dead gay comedy forums posted:

Historical materialism has wormed into you already. It Is Known that an artilleryman under that force becomes a vanguardist, sooner or later. After all, Engels himself was a Prussian artillery officer (lol)

In the artillery with the Royal Guards too, right?

I knew I had some books about this kicking around,

Ancient Tyranny
Tyrants and tyranny are more than the antithesis of democracy and the mark of political failure: they are a dynamic response to social and political pressures. This book examines the autocratic rulers and dynasties of classical Greece and Rome and the changing concepts of tyranny in political thought and culture. It brings together historians, political theorists and philosophers, all offering new perspectives on the autocratic governments of the ancient world. The volume is divided into four parts. It looks at the ways in which the term ‘tyranny’ was used and understood, and the kinds of individual who were called tyrants. The book then focuses on the genesis of tyranny and the social and political circumstances in which tyrants arose. The chapters in the final part of the book examine the presentation of tyrants by themselves and in literature and history. Part IV discusses the achievements of episodic tyranny within the non-autocratic regimes of Sparta and Rome and of autocratic regimes in Persia and the western Mediterranean world. Written by a wide range of leading experts in their field, this book offers a new and comparative study of tyranny within Greek, Roman, and Persian society.

Echoes the views ITT

Chapter 10: Pindar and Kingship Theory posted:

The structure of this chapter is simple. Part 1 looks at kingship in Pindar and glances at his models or predecessors. Part 2 asks how, if at all, he influenced kingship theory in the fourth century bc and the post-classical period. I anticipate an obvious objection at the outset and say that I use the term ‘theory’ loosely. Pindar is not Aristotle, and we cannot expect systematic tabulated exposition of doctrine. Aristotle himself says it is the mark of a cultivated person to expect the amount of precision that the subject allows (Nic. Eth. 1095b25). Nor do I confine myself to hereditary one-man rule, basileia as at Cyrene or Macedon. Pindar’s vocabulary is fluid, and he can talk approvingly, as we shall see, of a ‘people-guiding tyrannos’, said of Hieron of Syracuse. I would even be happy to allow in the collective rule of the Aleuads of Thessaly, who ‘uphold and exalt the state of the Thessalians’, in the closing words of Pythian 10. The poem ends: ‘with good men rests the governance of cities as a cherished inheri- tance’. So ‘Pindar and the good ruler’ might be a better title for my chapter. There are, however, some distinctions to be made. Where the upstart Sicilian tyrants are concerned he naturally stresses inherited excellence less on the whole. But even this has to be qualified in view of Pythian 6 for Xenocrates of Acragas, brother of the tyrant Theron. The poem has much in praise of Xenocrates’ son Thrasybulus and here the hereditary element does feature (lines 15–16).

But what the thread would really dig is the first openly Marxist book on Greek politics since 1991, which rules pretty hard and devotes the first chapter for critiquing the entire field of classics for driving Marx out of the academy, surveying the literature and pointing out where a materialist approach would improve, it's very cool The Athenian Revolution: Essays on Ancient Greek Democracy and Political Theory


Where did “democracy” come from, and what was its original form and meaning? Here Josiah Ober shows that this “power of the people” crystallized in a revolutionary uprising by the ordinary citizens of Athens in 508-507 B.C. He then examines the consequences of the development of direct democracy for upper-and lower-class citizens, for dissident Athenian intellectuals, and for those who were denied citizenship under the new regime (women, slaves, resident foreigners), as well as for the general development of Greek history.

When the citizens suddenly took power into their own hands, they changed the cultural and social landscape of Greece, thereby helping to inaugurate the Classical Era. Democracy led to fundamental adjustments in the basic structures of Athenian society, altered the forms and direction of political thinking, and sparked a series of dramatic reorientations in international relations. It quickly made Athens into the most powerful Greek city-state, but it also fatally undermined the traditional Greek rules of warfare. It stimulated the development of the Western tradition of political theorizing and encouraged a new conception of justice that has striking parallels to contemporary theories of rights. But Athenians never embraced the notions of inherency and inalienability that have placed the concept of rights at the center of modern political thought. Thus the play of power that constituted life in democratic Athens is revealed as at once strangely familiar and desperately foreign, and the values sustaining the Athenian political community as simultaneously admirable and terrifying.

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
:discourse:

Frosted Flake posted:

The only problem I can see on the horizon is that I've put myself in a position where, because Trump is the only politician making claims of personifying the polity, "I have visited the laid-off factory workers, and the communities crushed by our horrible and unfair trade deals. These are the forgotten men and women of our country. People who work hard but no longer have a voice. I am your voice!", and now claiming 2024 will be a final battle, Camlann, where the nation either survives or disappears into the mists of Avalon, if he marches down to the Magic Kingdom, and finds there the relic Magnus Maximus left to one day unify the land and people under one High King.

For, they say there is in Florida an especially beautiful and well-made sword, which was taken back to Orlando after Maximus' death - Caliburn.

If Trump can pull it from the stone, he is my King, and my voice. The Land and the King are one.

hell, same

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely

It's crazy how if you look around online you find nothing but praise for the Ukrainians and how they are re-writing the book on modern warfare against a hopelessly outmatched (and already confirmed loser for all time) Russian prisoner army, but every interview or video released which profiles the situation at the front makes it seem like a complete shitshow for Ukraine..

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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Starsfan posted:

It's crazy how if you look around online you find nothing but praise for the Ukrainians and how they are re-writing the book on modern warfare against a hopelessly outmatched (and already confirmed loser for all time) Russian prisoner army, but every interview or video released which profiles the situation at the front makes it seem like a complete shitshow for Ukraine..

at some point the whole "the west doesn't do propaganda" thing went from just being generous with the truth to just full on lying all the time without relent

i guess because they officially don't use propaganda they have the opportunity for big lies so they're going for it

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique


I'll see if we have it in the work library or can get it on loan.

Regarde Aduck posted:

at some point the whole "the west doesn't do propaganda" thing went from just being generous with the truth to just full on lying all the time without relent

i guess because they officially don't use propaganda they have the opportunity for big lies so they're going for it

:hmmyes:

This is a huge part of this.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


AHA Member Spotlight: Michael Boden

www.historians.org posted:

Michael Boden is an associate professor of history at Dutchess Community College. He lives in Poughkeepsie, New York, and has been a member since 2010.

Alma maters: BS, United States Military Academy, 1988; MA, Vanderbilt University, 1997; MMAS, US Army Command and General Staff College, 2001; PhD, Vanderbilt University, 2010

Fields of interest: modern Germany, US military, local military (Dutchess County in the Civil War and World War I)

Describe your career path. What led you to where you are today?

After graduating from West Point in 1988, I served as an armored cavalryman in the US Army for 23 years, retiring in 2011 with the rank of lieutenant colonel. While in service, I was selected to serve as a rotating faculty member in the Department of History at West Point from 1997 to 2000. After that experience, I decided that after I left the service, I wanted to continue to serve in education. I started at Dutchess Community College as an associate dean of academic affairs in 2011 and was able to move to a faculty position in 2015.

What do you like the most about where you live and work?

The area is rich with history. Our county has a robust variety of historical associations, and I currently serve on the board of directors for the Dutchess County Historical Society. Beyond the FDR Library at Hyde Park, there are numerous other sites of interest that draw people from across the country (e.g., my wife works as a docent at Locust Grove, the former home of Samuel Morse, and yesterday welcomed a couple from California on her tour).

What projects are you currently working on?

There are two projects that I am currently working on. First, I am continuing a series on Dutchess County regiments and soldiers in the Civil War, tracing the steps of units and individuals with strong Dutchess County ties (the 150th, 128th, and 159th New York being the primary units). Second, we recently discovered a 183-page diary of a county soldier who fought in the Meuse-Argonne in the First World War. I am transcribing that diary and hope to turn his story into a scholarly historical work.

Have your interests evolved since graduation? If so, how?

Yes, a great deal. I have become much more “European centric” as opposed to American, although I am not sure I can point to a specific reason. After my final deployment in the military (to Mosul, Iraq) in 2007, I started to study the Middle East in greater detail.

What’s the most fascinating thing you’ve ever found at the archives or while doing research?

Well, I cannot say I “discovered” it, but in a box at the county historical society are the World War I census forms (local) for service members from the town of Hyde Park, and in that box of about 350 forms, between those filled out by army privates and naval petty officers, was the form filled out by the assistant secretary of the Navy, Franklin D. Roosevelt! Pretty cool to see it written out in his own hand.

Is there an article, book, movie, blog etc. that you could recommend to fellow AHA members?

One of my mentors was the late Denny Showalter. He had the rare gift of being able to write works that seemed effortless and sucked you into a scholarly story better than just about anybody. It is hard to pick just one of his books, but Railroads and Rifles is the standard that I would like to hit for my first book-length narrative.

What do you value most about the history discipline?

History teaches you how people solved problems in the past (at so many different levels, in so many different contexts). And history teaches you how to solve those questions through critical reasoning, without any formulaic crutch that lets one simply punch in data to reach a solution.

Why is membership in the AHA important to you?

The greatest value to me has been to remain tied into themes, debates, and topics that might not otherwise be clear or visible.

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dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Frosted Flake posted:

I'll see if we have it in the work library or can get it on loan.

got you fam

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA395290.pdf

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