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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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my inference is Bakhmut is “a weak point” because Russia did not have time to prepare depth defense
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Jul 17, 2023 16:13
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Rugz posted:Correct, everybody knows the good guys should doggedly stick to a zero collateral damage strategy when defending against an enemy that is intent on eradicating the very concept of them as a people. Otherwise they would be just as bad wouldn't they?
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Jul 17, 2023 16:14
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Cao Ni Ma posted:They keep talking about wagners "Mutiny" and never look at it in any other way that Putin losing power or whatever nono you dont understand putin has lost face this makes him a pariah in russias orientalist culture and his downfall is now inevitable
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Jul 17, 2023 16:15
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Nix Panicus posted:Saved at the last moment by counter revolutionary forces led by the last scion of the royal family, a beautiful and charismatic woman who was away leading a think tank of the foremost minds in the nation. Book 3 is about reconciling the office and duties of the monarch with the personage of the monarch, and contrasts the growing pains of the ruling revolutionary council with the reactionary beliefs of hold out pockets of monarchists. Our dashing officer takes on leadership of a branch of the monarchist forces and forms a close personal bond with the young queen. The climax sees the officer overseeing a raid against the revolutionary council, and the ebb and flow of the battle is matched by the philosophical back and forth between the possibility of a future classless society and the vast historic forces conspiring to lead all revolutionary forces back to the divine rule of monarchs. Ultimately the artillery officer orders the final decisive strike, eliminating the revolutionary council with an ease and conviction he could not muster against the royals years earlier. The reactionaries take control and a new terror is unleashed. The artillery officer can only watch as millions are sent to the camps for their role in the uprising. His queen thanks him for his service, awards him a medal, and leaves for the castle, never to be seen again. The last chapter is the twice traitor officer sitting in the dark contemplating how it all went wrong and what, if anything, he believes.
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Jul 17, 2023 16:15
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Ukraine supposedly has a bunch of mechanized assets hidden away somewhere still, I guess to exploit any openings the, uh, recon in force opens up. I wonder if we'll see them any time soon?
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Jul 17, 2023 16:16
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euphronius posted:my inference is Bakhmut is “a weak point” because Russia did not have time to prepare depth defense Yeah that's probably accurate. It's Ukraine's best chance at a breakthrough.
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Jul 17, 2023 16:16
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Some Guy TT posted:nono you dont understand putin has lost face this makes him a pariah in russias orientalist culture and his downfall is now inevitable https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/06/2...mains-unchanged quote:According to Levada Center, the mutiny hasn’t as much as dented Vladimir Putin’s approval rating. Before the attempted coup, it had been 82 percent. On the day of the insurrection, it dipped to 79 percent, and went back up to 82 percent as the crisis dissolved.
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Jul 17, 2023 16:16
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those are Stalin-like polls
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Jul 17, 2023 16:17
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Jul 17, 2023 16:17
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VoicesCanBe posted:My understanding of the current situation is that Russia is the one on the attack on more fronts. And that Ukraine is only really pushing hard in the Bakhmut front at the moment. It's hard to say.. some people claim that Ukraine is attacking everywhere to try and string out the Russians and stretch their logistics / reserves. Others claim that the intensity of Ukrainian attacks has been decreasing since the NATO summit, almost as if the offensive was geared towards producing some sort of result at that meeting and then the Ukrainians switched up their tactics after they were rebuffed at Vilnius.. VoicesCanBe posted:Yeah that's probably accurate. It's Ukraine's best chance at a breakthrough. It could be that this is partly an element at play, although Russia obviously has considerable assets available to them in the area including what has been reported as being 50,000+ soldiers in Bakhmut and the surrounding suburbs. I don't know how realistic the chances for a breakthrough are, although it does appear to be something that Rybar for instance is cognizant of if the Ukrainians can keep up and increase the pressure on the Russian defenders. Another part of the decision to attack in Bakhmut that I've seen reported is that Zelenskyy and this Oleksandr Syrskyi character who is apparently the next most influential guy in the Ukrainian army after Zaluzhny are obsessed with the idea of re-capturing Bakhmut as they see it as the Russians only real achievement from the last year of fighting and they would like to reverse that, no matter the cost. Starsfan has issued a correction as of 16:23 on Jul 17, 2023 |
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Jul 17, 2023 16:18
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Nix Panicus posted:Ukraine supposedly has a bunch of mechanized assets hidden away somewhere still, I guess to exploit any openings the, uh, recon in force opens up. I wonder if we'll see them any time soon? They have some assets left, but it is also pretty obvious that they are getting down there considering how cautious they are with their vehicles at this point. They didn't just lose a lot of Western equipment, but also a lot of the Soviet equipment they had left or had been donated. It seems like most of their attacks around Bakhmut are infantry centric and being baited into the same trench lines.
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Jul 17, 2023 16:21
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I can’t imagine how any Ukrainian troops have any morale except for the Nazis I guess
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Jul 17, 2023 16:22
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It's hard to see how the northeast front would be a priority right now, but interesting if true. https://twitter.com/DefensePolitics/status/1680701480343568384
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Jul 17, 2023 16:25
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euphronius posted:I can’t imagine how any Ukrainian troops have any morale morale is less of an issue when youre only given a weapon after youre already under fire and the armored box that dumped you in a field is long gone
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Jul 17, 2023 16:27
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:It's hard to see how the northeast front would be a priority right now, but interesting if true. If true its probably because its where Ukraine isnt.
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Jul 17, 2023 16:27
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Nix Panicus posted:Ukraine supposedly has a bunch of mechanized assets hidden away somewhere still, I guess to exploit any openings the, uh, recon in force opens up. I wonder if we'll see them any time soon? saving those for the civil war that will follow the peace conference
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Jul 17, 2023 16:33
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meanwhile another artillery officerFriedrich Engels, Schweizerischer Republikaner No. 51, June 27, 1843 posted:Give me two hundred thousand Irishmen and I will overthrow the entire British monarchy
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Jul 17, 2023 16:35
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It's not going to matter that much if they can't deal with the civil war they're in now.
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Jul 17, 2023 16:36
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dead gay comedy forums posted:meanwhile another artillery officer they just don't write the historical fiction I want to read...
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Jul 17, 2023 16:37
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the New Testament compared to the Ramayana is completely unfair. no one in the NT has more than one head. there are no monkey kings. just boring all around (I guess there is revelation)
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Jul 17, 2023 16:38
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Rugz posted:How can you feel happy about getting rid of a rat infestation? Rugz posted:If atrocities are not justified then what is the acceptable level of force in your opinion that can be used in the prevention of an atrocity that will be committed against a group that you have an unshakable duty to protect? Presumably it falls short of 'any and all means necessary', which means there is some inflection point of action you would be unprepared to take despite it being required.
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Jul 17, 2023 16:44
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euphronius posted:those are Stalin-like polls he truly was popular. every leader should aspire to poll as highly as he did.
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Jul 17, 2023 16:49
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HiroProtagonist posted:its just atomization of the individual, which is a goal of neoliberalism in general i am most disturbed by this turn of events evidently china has weaponized tiktok to destroy our military and the only proper response is for us to ban tiktok in retaliation
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Jul 17, 2023 16:51
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lol at the idea of the Ukrainian state trying to protect anyone they've been loving giddy about throwing meat at the russians from day 1. Rather than evacuate civilians, they gave them guns and tried to teach them how to make molotovs.
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Jul 17, 2023 16:53
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Tankbuster posted:this thread when FF talked about his ethnicity. catholic is an ethnicity now? but i only want to hate the irish the italians are cool
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Jul 17, 2023 16:53
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Regarde Aduck posted:lol the war is why my electricity bill is rapidly moving towards unaffordable pretend like i posted that political cartoon where the economy is represented by a pointlessly destructive robot that were expected to want to save for some reason
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Jul 17, 2023 16:55
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[RUH-ROH WAR] scooby doo voice.
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Jul 17, 2023 17:06
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A Crimean Tatar-led underground movement is already active behind Russian lines and hundreds of young Tatar men are ready to take up arms to liberate the occupied peninsula, a veteran community leader has said. Mustafa Dzemilev, widely seen as the godfather of the Crimean Tatar rights movement, pointed to operations by the Atesh guerrilla group, comprising Crimean Tatars, Ukrainians and Russians, in Crimea and other occupied Ukrainian regions. Atesh, which means “fire” in Crimean Tatar, was created in September last year, primarily to carry out acts of sabotage from within the ranks of the Russian army. It claims more than 4,000 Russian soldiers have already enrolled in an online course on how to “survive the war” by wrecking their own equipment. There is no evidence linking the group to the latest attack on the Kerch Bridge, early on Monday morning, but the group has claimed a string of smaller-scale attacks, blowing up Russian checkpoints, assassinating Russian officers, setting fire to barracks and feeding sensitive information to Ukrainian intelligence. It recently accused Russian sappers of laying mines in the Krymskyi Titan chemical works in Armiansk, northern Crimea. An explosion there could spread an ammonia cloud across the land bridge between the peninsula and mainland Ukraine. “Atesh is very deep underground,” Dzhemilev, 79, told the Guardian in an interview in Kyiv. “There was not a single arrest among Atesh members, but they are working inside Crimea territory blowing up targets.” Dzemilev said the 300,000-strong Crimean Tatar community had been the focus of resistance to Russian occupation since 2014, when Moscow annexed Crimea, not least because of its experience under Moscow’s rule. The Crimean Tatars are the Turkic-speaking native people of Crimea, absorbed by the Mongol Golden Horde in the 13th century. They adopted Islam and broke away as the powerful Crimean Khanate in the 15th century. After Russian annexation in 1783, the process of persecution and expulsion began under imperial rule, and it was continued under the Soviet Union. In 1944, Stalin deported the entire Crimean Tatar population, mostly to Uzbekistan, including Dzemilev’s family, when he was six months old. As a human rights activist, he spent years under surveillance and in penal colonies. He is no longer the chairman of the Crimean Tatar assembly, the Mejlis, but remains a member of parliament and the pre-eminent elder of the community. On 12 March 2014, two weeks after Russian soldiers wearing no insignia seized strategic points in Crimea and four days before a “referendum” was held on the peninsula to endorse its “independence”, Vladimir Putin spoke to Dzemilev by phone. “He told me he saw Crimean Tatars as pacifists and he hoped there would be no violence,” Dzemilev recalled of the 45-minute conversation. “I told him, wait a minute, it’s non-violence when you are defending your civil rights in your own country. But when an enemy’s boot steps on your land, that’s a completely different matter.” Dzhemilev said Crimean Tatars are bearing the brunt of the Russian occupation. They account for 13% of the peninsula’s population, but he said 85% of political arrests and illegal searches were targeted against them. Crimean Tatar activists have disproportionately been the victims of kidnapping and disappearances. Dzemilev said 49 activists were missing and only eight of their bodies had been found so far. Political leaders and dozens of activists have been jailed. Despite the level of control and persecution, Dzemilev said if Crimean Tatars felt liberation was close, the ranks of the partisans would grow significantly. “At the current moment, around 1,000 young men are ready to take up arms as soon as the Ukrainian army arrives, if they are able to get the weapons,” he said. Refat Chubarov, the current Mejlis chairman, warned against outside powers seeking to negotiate the future of Crimea without the participation of its Indigenous people. “We don’t want another Yalta,” Chubarov told the Guardian, referring to the 1945 meeting in the Crimean summer resort, where Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill accepted Joseph Stalin’s assurances that democratic elections would be allowed in eastern European countries. Chubarov said there were “thousands” of Crimean Tatars ready to fight any attempt to leave their homeland under prolonged Russian occupation. The Ukrainian counteroffensive is under way and Kyiv’s forces are making territorial gains, but are still far from the formidable fortifications Russian forces have built along the road to Crimea. The region’s liberation does not appear imminent, and even if Ukraine suddenly makes a breakthrough and reached Crimea, some of Kyiv’s backers in Washington and a few European capitals are nervous at the prospect of Russian occupation forces being driven out, lest it makes Putin desperate enough to use a nuclear bomb or some other weapon of mass destruction. As with Russian volunteers fighting with Ukrainian support on Russian territory, the military role of the Crimean Tatars as a highly motivated partisan force would be a way to put Moscow under additional pressure without alarming allies. “The Crimean Tatars are of extreme importance in the future liberation of Crimea, from the ideological, political and other points of view,” the Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak said. “They are very active and effective in terms of the preparation for the future liberation of Crimea. Dzemilev and Chubarov are actively cooperating with the presidential office and Ukrainian central government in those preparations. “Crimean Tatars are serving in the armed services of Ukraine and take an active role in partisan operations in Crimea. There is quite a wide network within Crimea right now, that is very useful. Certain incidents are happening there that are proof of that.” After liberation, Crimean Tatars will be seeking greater recognition, including a constitutional change that would make Crimea a “national republic” in which they, as the Indigenous people, would have special status. Dzemilev said the creation of such a republic would be irrespective of whatever role his community plays in liberation. On that score, however, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s government has made no specific assurances. “In wartime it is forbidden to change the constitution,” Tamila Tasheva, a Crimean Tatar activist who currently serves as the president’s permanent representative to Crimea, said in an interview in Kyiv. “There is a lot of talk about the status of Crimea after liberation, but right now there is no final decision. Right now, this question is on hold.”
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Some Guy TT posted:nono you dont understand putin has lost face this makes him a pariah in russias orientalist culture and his downfall is now inevitable Russia may have the advantage in men and equipment but on the other hand, Putin has 'lost face' and 'been humiliated', crippling Russia's ability to fight on.
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Jul 17, 2023 17:12
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Some Guy TT posted:A Crimean Tatar-led underground movement is already active behind Russian lines and hundreds of young Tatar men are ready to take up arms to liberate the occupied peninsula, a veteran community leader has said. Oh well geeze I'm sure this will improve life for the tatars, it always works out well when small regional ethnic minorities side with NATO states during proxy conflicts Engorged Pedipalps has issued a correction as of 17:17 on Jul 17, 2023 |
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Jul 17, 2023 17:14
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so they're going to run around murdering civilians? Because what else are a couple of hundred men going to do?
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Jul 17, 2023 17:26
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Jul 17, 2023 17:26
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thanks for finding all the psycho posts fizzy
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Jul 17, 2023 17:29
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Regarde Aduck posted:so they're going to run around murdering civilians? Because what else are a couple of hundred men going to do? If the Khmer or Hmong were an indicator for how this will go, yes, that is literally the plan If they are very lucky, five to ten percent of their survivors will get to make a community in the United States when we're done using them
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Jul 17, 2023 17:29
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:If the Khmer or Hmong were an indicator for how this will go, yes, that is literally the plan It's funny because these groups became integral to how US SF, or at least the Green Berets came to see themselves, loyal friends of local people who even in defeat will help them get out. Then after 20 years of building up the same myths, the US did the exact same thing to the Kurds, but - so far as I know - is not even pretending to resettle them in the US. Same deal with the northern tribes of Afghanistan. I think the only group that the US has remained loyal and responsive to in return for their service to the CIA and Special Forces is the Cuban Exiles. In that case though, they could probably rat out the CIA out for killing Kennedy, and are a voting bloc in an important swing state, so I guess that gave them leverage. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 17:43 on Jul 17, 2023 |
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Jul 17, 2023 17:40
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The Green Knight was a pretty good modern Arthurian movie.
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Jul 17, 2023 17:43
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Nanomashoes posted:The Green Knight was a pretty good modern Arthurian movie. I enjoyed it.
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Jul 17, 2023 17:44
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Nanomashoes posted:The Green Knight was a pretty good modern Arthurian movie. it's no sword of the valiant
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Zodium posted:it's no sword of the valiant Video games have surpassed movies and that’s why Ace Combat Zero is the best arthurian retelling of my lifetime.
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