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Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Zeta Taskforce posted:

Why are we panicking? This is a G1 level storm

https://weatherboy.com/geomagnetic-storm-watch-up-impacts-possible-tonight/

The National Weather Service’s Space Weather Prediction Center (SWPC) has issued another Geomagnetic Storm Watch for Earth for today into tomorrow, July 17-18. G1 level storm conditions are expected.

According to the SWPC’s latest Forecast Discussion, the solar wind environment is likely to be enhanced and disturbed from July 17-19 due to a “multitude of ejecta events over the past few days” which include a Coronal Mass Ejection which occured on July 14-15.

Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) are large expulsions of plasma and magnetic field from the Sun’s corona. They can eject billions of tons of coronal material and carry an embedded magnetic field, frozen in flux, that is stronger than the background solar wind interplanetary magnetic field (IMF) strength. CMEs travel outward from the Sun at various speeds, with some reaching the Earth as quickly as 15-18 hours and others requiring days to arrive. According to the SWPC, CMEs expand in size as they propagate away from the Sun and larger ones can reach a size comprising nearly a quarter of the space between Earth and the Sun by the time it reaches our planet.

As the CME interacts with Earth and its magnetosphere, a variety of things could unfold based on the amount of energy hitting and the angle it impacts the Earth.

Geomagnetic storms are rated on a 1-5 scale by the SWPC, with 1 considered minor and 5 considered extreme. Geomagnetic storms can disrupt electronics and electrical systems, interfere with spacecraft and satellite communication, and also trigger brilliant displays of the aurora in the night sky

In the case of the G1 class storm due to hit Earth tonight or tomorrow, weak power grid fluctuations could occur, especially at northern latitudes. Minor impacts on satellite operations could also be possible. Aurora could also be visible more south than it usually is; in this case, it could extend as far south as northern Michigan and Maine. Should the geomagnetic storm become stronger, aurora could be brighter and could appear even more south.



1.) It's a joke

2.) geomagnetic storms are triggered by coronal mass ejections that have to travel between the sun and the earth, so the current G1 storm is from several smaller CME impacts that started on the 16th. That's why your link talks about the 17th and 18th. The flare that tweet is about was of an unusual duration which triggered a S2 radiation storm and is estimated to cause a G2/G3 geomagnetic storm when the trailing edges of it hit earth on July 20th. Not unheard of but still, it's a joke.

Flares travel at the speed of light, the coronal mass ejected by them does not.

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Stereotype posted:

that's not how... yeah cool okay

No but I'll feel better

ben shapino
Nov 22, 2020

here come dat niño

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

Koirhor posted:

where that naughty planet music video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTXdah8LXZk

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica
was hoping for a carrington level event would be a good twist from the writers room

A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?

Jokerpilled Drudge posted:

was hoping for a carrington level event would be a good twist from the writers room

they went on strike after the producers pushed forward some crazy poo poo

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

:cabot:

4d3d3d
Mar 17, 2017
https://apnews.com/article/climate-change-republicans-trillion-trees-01e455acce4397c0376e82bfa18b72c2

quote:

As Speaker Kevin McCarthy visited a natural gas drilling site in northeast Ohio to promote House Republicans’ plan to sharply increase domestic production of energy from fossil fuels last month, the signs of rising global temperatures could not be ignored. Smoke from Canadian wildfires hung in the air.

When the speaker was asked about climate change and forest fires, he was ready with a response: Plant a trillion trees.

The idea — simple yet massively ambitious — revealed recent Republican thinking on how to address climate change. The party is no longer denying that global warming exists, yet is searching for a response to sweltering summers, weather disasters and rising sea levels that doesn’t involve abandoning their enthusiastic support for American-produced energy from burning oil, coal and gas.
ahahhahahahahahaha

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Jokerpilled Drudge posted:

was hoping for a carrington level event would be a good twist from the writers room

The common and medium strength M class flare earlier today that caused the upcoming July 20th CME hit wasn't earth facing (3363) but was of an exceptionally long duration.



So as we enter the solar maximum you can always hope for one of those multi-hour eruptions on an earth facing sunspot like 3373. We usually get glancing blows from portions of edges of the stellar material but getting bathed in it could get interesting.

We would have a couple days notice too but there is no way to know exactly how hard of a hit we will take until it arrives.

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

lol and who do they propose pays for this? mexico?

Tungsten
Aug 10, 2004

Your Working Boy

they're just going to take the money and throw the trees into landfills, lmao

A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?
smoke flowing across the platform:
plant more fuel for the burning!

4d3d3d
Mar 17, 2017

Tungsten posted:

they're just going to take the money and throw the trees into landfills, lmao

None of the saplings will ever reach adulthood

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Tungsten posted:

they're just going to take the money and throw the trees into landfills, lmao

nah, they'll burn

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!



the obsession with tree planting is gonna gently caress us even harder lol

it takes too long for them to absorb a decent amount of CO2 and by then they'll be on fire

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


How many dollars per tree, do you figure?

And how much smoke does a monoculture of juvenile trees produce when it burns?

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


We all already know that the $5-10T he's casually suggesting spending "on" climate change is going to go straight to dead-end CCS "investment."

A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?

Potato Salad posted:

We all already know that the $5-10T he's casually suggesting spending "on" climate change is going to go straight to dead-end CCS "investment."

The grift can be expanded! Number is eternal! Good news!!!

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
Trees can't absorb enough CO2, but they sure can drink a lot of water. Heavy tree planting has straight up wrecked streams and rivers in some areas.

We're never going to learn the correct lesson, which is that we can't solve our massive and uncontrolled geoengineering project with another massive and uncontrolled geoengineering project.

But still, it's funny that Republicans are almost certainly going to end up outflanking Democrats on this issue by proposing legitimately ambitious schemes that, while worthless, are still somehow better than shoving money at loving automakers.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


lol neither party has a sane climate policy lmao

you're either voting for CCS and population decline by the sword, or you're voting for biofuels straining arable land and population decline by wage stagnation

Car Hater
May 7, 2007

wolf. bike.
Wolf. Bike.
Wolf! Bike!
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ARROOOOOO!
Liberals and hippies would want to protect the trees so R's would end up turning around and bulldozing them anyway

Car Hater
May 7, 2007

wolf. bike.
Wolf. Bike.
Wolf! Bike!
WolfBike!
WolfBike!
ARROOOOOO!

Potato Salad posted:

lol neither party has a sane climate policy lmao

you're either voting for CCS and population decline by the sword, or you're voting for biofuels straining arable land and population decline by wage stagnation

Hence the need for a new party, with a new plan




Vote for Car Hater! Vote for the Nuclear Option! A swift and glorious death for all of us, united as one in the loving embrace of the atom!

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Paradoxish posted:

But still, it's funny that Republicans are almost certainly going to end up outflanking Democrats on this issue by proposing legitimately ambitious schemes that, while worthless, are still somehow better than shoving money at loving automakers.

It's indeed pretty funny that there's ONE party that believes -- superficially at least -- that better things are possible.

It's unfortunate they happen to be the modern American Nazi party in all but name, and that their headline projects will be worthless at best and poison pills at worst.

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021
Good folk, my proposal is thus: plant a trillion trees, harvest them, and sink them to the bottom of the ocean. There, we use the trees to build underwater habitats to house miners who will drill for even more oil on the seabed!

A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?

SixteenShells posted:

Good folk, my proposal is thus: plant a trillion trees, harvest them, and sink them to the bottom of the ocean. There, we use the trees to build underwater habitats to house miners who will drill for even more oil on the seabed!

Give this man a hundred million in first round seed funding!

Car Hater
May 7, 2007

wolf. bike.
Wolf. Bike.
Wolf! Bike!
WolfBike!
WolfBike!
ARROOOOOO!

SixteenShells posted:

Good folk, my proposal is thus: plant a trillion trees, harvest them, and sink them to the bottom of the ocean. There, we use the trees to build underwater habitats to house miners who will drill for even more oil on the seabed!

Blocked by the special interests working on strip-mining lithium from the ocean floor

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Potato Salad posted:

It's indeed pretty funny that there's ONE party that believes -- superficially at least -- that better things are possible.

It's unfortunate they happen to be the modern American Nazi party in all but name, and that their headline projects will be worthless at best and poison pills at worst.

We were always headed down this path once Democrats became the status quo at any cost party. The only possible outcome is people eventually flocking to the literal fascists who at least say they're going to do something to improve material conditions for people with certain skin tones, sexual orientations, and genders.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


SixteenShells posted:

Good folk, my proposal is thus: plant a trillion trees, harvest them, and sink them to the bottom of the ocean. There, we use the trees to build underwater habitats to house miners who will drill for even more oil on the seabed!

Lmao one of the things holding back (thankfully) deep sea floor mining is staffing & automation. As in, our capital class wants not only rip up the seabed, they don't want to pay anyone wages ever to do it.

nikosoft
Dec 17, 2011

ghost in the shell, but somehow much worse
College Slice

Potato Salad posted:

Lmao one of the things holding back (thankfully) deep sea floor mining is staffing & automation. As in, our capital class wants not only rip up the seabed, they don't want to pay anyone wages ever to do it.

this is why idiot sub guy made his lovely cheap sub, he was going to drum up hype and prove its viability by doing the Titanic visits, then ultimately sell a bunch of cheap subs to energy companies for mass underwater exploration of potential oil sites

biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008



incredible. im hooting and hollering

Zeta Taskforce
Jun 27, 2002



Cold on a Cob posted:

lol and who do they propose pays for this? mexico?

Easy. Cut taxes that existing trees have to pay, remove regulations that are suppressing tree innovation and then the forests will be able to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Do I have to think of everything?

Car Hater
May 7, 2007

wolf. bike.
Wolf. Bike.
Wolf! Bike!
WolfBike!
WolfBike!
ARROOOOOO!

Zeta Taskforce posted:

Easy. Cut taxes that existing trees have to pay, remove regulations that are suppressing tree innovation and then the forests will be able to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Do I have to think of everything?

Proposal: Tax Credits to stimulate tree innovation

Result: All forests heavily topped, TreeCo to pocket billions based on per-branch density of new shoots

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

Not a bad idea to start planting a new huge rainforest down the east coast

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider
finally a solution:

mags
May 30, 2008

I am a congenital optimist.

RandomBlue posted:

finally a solution:



they should paint the trees too

Zeta Taskforce
Jun 27, 2002

RandomBlue posted:

finally a solution:



Making the planet extremely white is a solution that Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump all agree on.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

The funniest part about aerosol injection and white paint is that even if it does work with zero side effects all that does is let the party continue a couple extra years until CO2 ocean acidification wipes out all marine life

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

A little warming driven mass extinction: no thanks
An ocean acidification mass dying: yes please

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

The Oldest Man posted:

The funniest part about aerosol injection and white paint is that even if it does work with zero side effects all that does is let the party continue a couple extra years until CO2 ocean acidification wipes out all marine life

Ocean gonna be like Evangelion toxic soup

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4d3d3d
Mar 17, 2017

The Oldest Man posted:

The funniest part about aerosol injection and white paint is that even if it does work with zero side effects all that does is let the party continue a couple extra years until CO2 ocean acidification wipes out all marine life
Even if we could fix one or two problems, there's a dozen more that are just as fatal waiting to take us out. To even have a chance to survive the coming decades intact, it would take a concerted worldwide effort the likes of which we've never seen or imagined, and lol if you think that's ever happening

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