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Field Mousepad posted:Well I specifically didn't play barb or Necro because I was waiting for the season to start and now I'm definitely playing necro first, I was leaning towards a minion build anyway and that patch sold it. Why? I didn't see any huge buffs to the paper-thin minions. If they add minion health +100% and minion damage +100% they might be getting in the ballpark of what a typical Diablo minion build is all about.
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I think they should have probably held off and dropped the patch with season 1. A giant patch that is basically 100% nerfs with very few QOL improvements isn't really hyping anyone up for the season.
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Dr. Mantis Toboggan posted:I had my stats saved in some damage spreadsheet that someone linked awhile back. Ahhhh thank you for the explanation. This is still ... very bad lol.
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Jul 18, 2023 19:30
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f#a# posted:Pretty disappointed there aren't any QoL features. Console and controller UX is still awful. Yeah, you can already do this. Also, unless I missed it, nothing about Stash space either?
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Jul 18, 2023 19:32
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They still haven't fixed the loving awful horse, have they.
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Jul 18, 2023 19:32
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It's Diablo, so it doesn't really change the user experience if I've been nerfed to clearing Nightmare Blind Burrows 60 when I used to be able to do Nightmare Blind Burrows 70, but some of the changes are downright dumb. 5 seconds to leave dungeon? gently caress you Seems like they could've included all the Malignant Hearts in the patch notes to give the internet something positive to talk about for 48 hours
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Jul 18, 2023 19:33
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Nullset posted:Helltide cinder drops better be broken and not an intentional change... After the patch I'm getting maybe 1 max per pack, and an event gave me 10ish. That would be pretty incredible if the both jacked up the mystery chest to 250 cinder and nerfed cinder drops. Can't having people getting too many items during an hour long helltide -- that sounds like too much fun. The extra price of the chest would be fine if they would just up the drat enemy density in Helltides, but I'm not seeing that anywhere, right? nothing about making Helltides more dense?
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Well I guess we know why they held off posting the patch notes for as long as humanly possible lol
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:to give the internet something positive to talk about lmao sure
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Philthy posted:Why? I didn't see any huge buffs to the paper-thin minions. If they add minion health +100% and minion damage +100% they might be getting in the ballpark of what a typical Diablo minion build is all about. I've played a minion based necro up to 85, and they are pretty tough when you build for it. With friends, my minions would basically only die if there were elites with fire death explosions. Solo I need to rerez a little more often, but it's manageable. 90% of the corpses get exploded still. There's a skill that makes it so the max they can take is 30% of their life in a single hit, meaning they'd need to take four hits to die (ignoring dots and such). Just keep a skeletal priest bonus active (every 5sec during combat) to keep them healthy and they're typically fine. You just need so many aspects to make it remotely viable, and hearing that all of the paragon board slots I've been taking just... don't do anything? That sucks. Glad to hear it's getting buffed, but I'm off to play sorc in s1.
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Jul 18, 2023 19:36
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Philthy posted:They still haven't fixed the loving awful horse, have they.
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American McGay posted:What’s wrong with it? Just generally kinda janky and gets stuck on every little rock and twig on the terrain.
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Jul 18, 2023 19:38
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Probably gunna sit this season launch out till they figure out how to tune poo poo. POEs current season has a loving awesome mechanic of leveling up your items and pet classes still rock socks.American McGay posted:What’s wrong with it? Seriously?
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American McGay posted:What’s wrong with it? So I can assume you've never used it if you asked this question. The speed based on your mouse position, the getting stuck on random things, etc etc.
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Jul 18, 2023 19:39
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Ravendas posted:Glad to hear it's getting buffed, but I'm off to play sorc in s1. 
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Cervix-A-Lot posted:So I can assume you've never used it if you asked this question. The speed based on your mouse position, the getting stuck on random things, etc etc.
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Jul 18, 2023 19:40
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American McGay posted:Works on my machine. No it doesn't.
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I'm glad they released it before the season started so players could decide if they wanted to sit the season out instead of starting the season and then finding out all of this. I'm in, I'm not at you folks level so a lot of this doesn't really affect my thoughts on the game. Just gonna try to kill more stuff.
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Jul 18, 2023 19:45
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They also shifted a lot of the offensive damage ability modifiers upwards by 25%. With slightly larger increases for DoT abilities and pet damage. It looks like they shifted damage up by about 15% and defensives down by about 30% overall. quote:Physical Damage: Increased by ~25%.
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Jul 18, 2023 19:47
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Mayveena posted:I'm glad they released it before the season started so players could decide if they wanted to sit the season out instead of starting the season and then finding out all of this. I'm in, I'm not at you folks level so a lot of this doesn't really affect my thoughts on the game. Just gonna try to kill more stuff. I feel this basically. I got a Necro to 47 in the preseason, didn't bother doing anything past the campaign. poo poo, most of my map is still unrevealed. Not sure whether to go barb or sorc.
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Jul 18, 2023 19:48
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So instead of buffing non-Crit/Vuln damage they just nerfed both into the ground without touching the stupid poo poo like "Overpower damage with two handed weapons" and "damage to knocked over enemies that landed on their butts on a Tuesday"?
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Mayveena posted:I'm glad they released it before the season started so players could decide if they wanted to sit the season out instead of starting the season and then finding out all of this. I'm in, I'm not at you folks level so a lot of this doesn't really affect my thoughts on the game. Just gonna try to kill more stuff. Also nice if you bought the deluxe edition, you can save your free battlepass token for another one too
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Jul 18, 2023 19:49
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It changes nothing about the gearing strategy because of the buckets, just makes everyone weaker lol
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:So instead of buffing non-Crit/Vuln damage they just nerfed both into the ground without touching the stupid poo poo like "Overpower damage with two handed weapons" and "damage to knocked over enemies that landed on their butts on a Tuesday"? All of those were buffed 25-40%.
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External Organs posted:I feel this basically. I got a Necro to 47 in the preseason, didn't bother doing anything past the campaign. poo poo, most of my map is still unrevealed. i dont think either of those choices makes any sense unless you really hate yourself Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:All of those were buffed 25-33%. yeah but overpower damage doesnt do anything unless you're that one necro build
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They also shifted a lot of the offensive damage ability modifiers upwards by 25%. With slightly larger increases for DoT abilities and pet damage. This is still a net damage reduction due to the vuln / crit nerfs. It is an increase for dot builds I guess, but who wants to sit there while DOTs tick on anything other than bosses.
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crepeface posted:Also, unless I missed it, nothing about Stash space either? They're not touching stash yet at all, so no, you would see nothing about stash
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Verviticus posted:i dont think either of those choices makes any sense unless you really hate yourself Spells look cool I guess.
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At first I thought the horse was fine. But it doesn't interact well with stuff you'd expect to be silky smooth, like jumps or monsters bundled up against terrain that is not meant to be blocking. Also sometimes you can just... Ride around barricades.
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I think my absolute favourite thing so far is the subtle bait and switch of them not mentioning that there were class-specific hearts in any of the pre-release talk. 32 hearts? LOL get hosed, more like 16 hearts.
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sorc definitely feels better to play now with the additional defensive stats (just did a random 80 map and could actually survive a hit or two from the mobs) but doing tier 100 will probably suck without that extra damage. hopefully the seasonal mechanic makes up for it?
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wuffles posted:Just generally kinda janky and gets stuck on every little rock and twig on the terrain. Spamming dash and wiggling left/right or up/down has fixed most issues for me.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:All of those were buffed 25-40%. Lister posted:Spamming dash and wiggling left/right or up/down has fixed most issues for me.
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Other than the initial lag when getting on the horse I haven't had hardly any problems with it
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bio347 posted:I think my absolute favourite thing so far is the subtle bait and switch of them not mentioning that there were class-specific hearts in any of the pre-release talk. 32 hearts? LOL get hosed, more like 16 hearts. It has been like that for everything. There are 7 new aspects! But it's 2 general and 1 per class. There are 6 new uniques! but it's 1 ultra rare and 1 per class.
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Magus42 posted:They're not touching stash yet at all, so no, you would see nothing about stash Didn't they say the stash issues were going to take longer? I sure wish they'd get to it, stash is really a problem.
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not listed in the notes but they took off .1% to the maxroll of %armor affix. they also adjusted the rolls on some of the DR rolls but I don't remember what they used to be
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I see they took my least favorite part of the game, getting one shot, and doubled it. Leaning in hard on vanilla D3 design. That's the one that everyone likes right?
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Radical posted:sorc definitely feels better to play now with the additional defensive stats (just did a random 80 map and could actually survive a hit or two from the mobs) but doing tier 100 will probably suck without that extra damage. hopefully the seasonal mechanic makes up for it? What additional defensive stats?
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Okay so they "buffed" them but not nearly enough to matter. I love that as a filthy casual I'm going from being addicted to playing a Walking Arsenal Barb because I was having a ton of fun to "meh I dont think I'll bother with season 1 because they changed everything for the worse". Seems weird that you would enjoy the game, but be unable to enjoy it with higher normal damage and lower vulnerable crits + the new heart stuff.
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