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Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





There is something gloriously petty and powerful about telling a dickhead that their behavior has resulted in them being demoted from one grammatical form to another.

gently caress Du, du bist ein Sie!

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NLJP
Aug 26, 2004


Yeah, not sure it's worth keeping the whole system for moments like that but it's not a bad argument for it

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!
Someone in one of these threads was saying how Shakespeare would have dudes switch from formal you when they're on good terms and then informal thou when they're hurling insults.

I'm still constantly confused by tu and vous in French with coworkers. Some French speaking countries, folks just tutoient everyone all the time everywhere outside of a meeting with a minister and other countries my coworkers of years call each other vous

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Just do whatever you want you're never going to please the french

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!
these are people in former French colonies that all speak French, but generally have a first non-euro native language, so the rules are just who knows

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Mauser posted:

Someone in one of these threads was saying how Shakespeare would have dudes switch from formal you when they're on good terms and then informal thou when they're hurling insults.

I'm still constantly confused by tu and vous in French with coworkers. Some French speaking countries, folks just tutoient everyone all the time everywhere outside of a meeting with a minister and other countries my coworkers of years call each other vous

In regards to Shakespeare, the first major insult exchange I could think of was the thumb biting in Romeo and Juliet, where they use "you" instead of "thou" the entire time. I'm sure there's other Shakespearean insult exchanges where "thou" is used instead of "you," that just happened to be the first one to pop in my head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9D_4A7yYzc

Edit: Looking this up I realized the Baz Luhrmann film is the most recent film adaptation of Romeo and Juliet that uses Shakespeare's script. I feel like the current generation of teenagers deserves a new version with Zendaya as Juliet by the people behind Euphoria.

Air Skwirl has a new favorite as of 23:30 on Jul 18, 2023

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Lobok posted:

"Hey, uh... Those don't look like hogs..."
"Oh, well we've veered off course a bit and ended up by the border. You wouldn't mind helping keep our country safe now, wouldja?"

'always willing to kill those pigs from ICE' :bahgawd:

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

ultrafilter posted:

Yep. Europeans in general care about academic titles but the Germans are on a different level.

In Germany the holder of a medical degree is titled Dr. med. The Dr. Dr. really is for someone with two PhDs.

Yeah there’s a whole hobby of reviewing old dissertations to find out if someone plagiarized. It’s led to the resignations of at least two cabinet level officials who got caught.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

So someone in Germany with two PhD's would have people asking for updates from them by saying "Dr Dr give me the news"?

Pissed Ape Sexist
Apr 19, 2008

Inceltown posted:

So someone in Germany with two PhD's would have people asking for updates from them by saying "Dr Dr give me the news"?

They've gotta say Sie instead of Du

hallo spacedog
Apr 3, 2007

this chaos is killing me
💫🐕🔪😱😱

Inceltown posted:

So someone in Germany with two PhD's would have people asking for updates from them by saying "Dr Dr give me the news"?

That's right, and if they were sick with a fever they would have to say "Dr. Dr., Can't you see I'm burning, burning."

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
That's a good joke spoiled by the fact that Germans don't understand humor

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Basketball shoes never really took off in Germany because "Mr. Jordans" doesn't have the same ring to it.

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

Air Skwirl posted:

In regards to Shakespeare, the first major insult exchange I could think of was the thumb biting in Romeo and Juliet, where they use "you" instead of "thou" the entire time. I'm sure there's other Shakespearean insult exchanges where "thou" is used instead of "you," that just happened to be the first one to pop in my head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9D_4A7yYzc

Edit: Looking this up I realized the Baz Luhrmann film is the most recent film adaptation of Romeo and Juliet that uses Shakespeare's script. I feel like the current generation of teenagers deserves a new version with Zendaya as Juliet by the people behind Euphoria.

What did teenagers do to deserve that.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

Mauser posted:

Someone in one of these threads was saying how Shakespeare would have dudes switch from formal you when they're on good terms and then informal thou when they're hurling insults.

I'm still constantly confused by tu and vous in French with coworkers. Some French speaking countries, folks just tutoient everyone all the time everywhere outside of a meeting with a minister and other countries my coworkers of years call each other vous

I did some googling when it got explained and apparently you used it to insult as well. Like you're talking down to them.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Air Skwirl posted:

I feel like the current generation of teenagers deserves a new version with Zendaya as Juliet by the people behind Euphoria.

Let a few generations have a break and enjoy Rosaline instead.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007
https://twitter.com/saberspark/status/1681399292257288193?s=46&t=LuWlVigXSHv3TXi-WVRPYA

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Oppenheimer fans on the left, barbie fans on the right

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

Inceltown posted:

So someone in Germany with two PhD's would have people asking for updates from them by saying "Dr Dr give me the news"?

I've got a bad case of loving sie du

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


https://twitter.com/its_jessi_grace/status/1680619541905195009

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Lol

Organza Quiz
Nov 7, 2009


CommonShore posted:

Most romance languages still have the "thou" equivalent. Thou / tu is more personal and familiar, but sometimes has a connotation of being patronizing. You / vous / usted is plural, formal, and respectful, but also distant and cold, exactly like a second person version of the royal We.

Does the famous quote from Lady Marmalade use "vous" because it's implicitly a sex worker talking to a potential client or am I overthinking it and it's just a bad translation?

Kevin Bacon
Sep 22, 2010

yep this is how humans are supposed to eat ice cream, and how they did it in paleolithic times. much like how shoes have destroyed our natural gait, how chairs have destroyed our ability to sit in a squat, modern inventions like spoons and cones have destroyed our ability to eat ice cream the NATURAL way.

LASER BEAM DREAM
Nov 3, 2005

Oh, what? So now I suppose you're just going to sit there and pout?
https://twitter.com/moshibass/status/1680955519576707073?s=46&t=W2Qm6mR0SpKXEUHEsUiPGg

https://twitter.com/alexapdos/status/1681333011671838720?s=46&t=W2Qm6mR0SpKXEUHEsUiPGg

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/NSlayton/status/1681435997182259205

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


TREE LAW

LawfulWaffle
Mar 11, 2014

Well, that aligns with the vibes I was getting. Which was, like, "normal" kinda vibes.
Whatever studio that is could pay a hundred tree fines before it’d have to think twice when doing so in the service of loving over strikers. If the penalty for a crime is only a fine, then it’s only a crime to poor people.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

LawfulWaffle posted:

Whatever studio that is could pay a hundred tree fines before it’d have to think twice when doing so in the service of loving over strikers. If the penalty for a crime is only a fine, then it’s only a crime to poor people.
That's why fines should scale to personal wealth.

freeedr
Feb 21, 2005

They are already losing revenue way beyond what it would cost to capitulate to the strike and certainly way beyond any tree fines

ben shapino
Nov 22, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 15 minutes!
that's punishable by a fine of up to tree thousand dollars or tree years in prison

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/Sir_WilliamGull/status/1680973221749719040

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


https://twitter.com/BenjaminCrew1/status/1681515485848825861?t=t52DJTfhy1M8JS2xwishFg&s=19

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Rare Derek ‘L’.

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️

Arsenic Lupin posted:

It's been decades, but isn't there also a title for the wife of a doctor/professor?

Die Frau des Herrn…?

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
https://twitter.com/Ewelannawhite/status/1681715092839071751?s=20

https://twitter.com/Ewelannawhite/status/1681731012038934536?s=20

Dick Trauma has a new favorite as of 04:00 on Jul 20, 2023

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Organza Quiz posted:

Does the famous quote from Lady Marmalade use "vous" because it's implicitly a sex worker talking to a potential client or am I overthinking it and it's just a bad translation?

That formality is there, though maybe the speaker is addressing more than one person!

tpink
Feb 18, 2013

Melman

This guy owns.

https://twitter.com/moshibass/status/1633860688665018369?s=46

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

Lol I just tried to paste one of the above tweets and got:
code:

https://platform.twitter.com/embed/Tweet.html?dnt=true&embedId=twitter-widget-1&features=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%3D%3D&frame=false&hideCard=false&hideThread=false&id=1681715092839071751&lang=en&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.somethingawful.com%2F&sessionId=9714c1f4b49c551b1f952c4775c9aaf735cc8713&theme=dark&widgetsVersion=aaf4084522e3a%3A1674595607486&width=550px
In the pre-Elon days you could get a tweet link by shaving off all the stupid bullshit after & but I think the link might be embedded in features= ?

E: “Tweet.html” holy poo poo is he trying IIS? Why is the first letter capitalized? Ahahaha

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

goatsestretchgoals posted:

Lol I just tried to paste one of the above tweets and got:
code:

https://platform.twitter.com/embed/Tweet.html?dnt=true&embedId=twitter-widget-1&features=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%3D%3D&frame=false&hideCard=false&hideThread=false&id=1681715092839071751&lang=en&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.somethingawful.com%2F&sessionId=9714c1f4b49c551b1f952c4775c9aaf735cc8713&theme=dark&widgetsVersion=aaf4084522e3a%3A1674595607486&width=550px
In the pre-Elon days you could get a tweet link by shaving off all the stupid bullshit after & but I think the link might be embedded in features= ?

E: “Tweet.html” holy poo poo is he trying IIS? Why is the first letter capitalized? Ahahaha

That’s what you get if you somehow manage to copy the source of the iFrame embed itself (in the Awful iOS app, I get that if I long-press on a tweet and tap Copy URL). If I go to share a tweet from the app, I usually have to tap it to open it in a browser tab, then copy the address bar, where you can indeed lop off all the stupid bullshit query parameters.

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goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

Blue Moonlight posted:

That’s what you get if you somehow manage to copy the source of the iFrame embed itself (in the Awful iOS app, I get that if I long-press on a tweet and tap Copy URL). If I go to share a tweet from the app, I usually have to tap it to open it in a browser tab, then copy the address bar, where you can indeed lop off all the stupid bullshit query parameters.

Thanks pasting, browsing, and re copying were the steps I missed. Please enjoy this simplified URL paste of a bad kitten except they’re a kitten.

https://twitter.com/Ewelannawhite/status/1681715092839071751

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