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Kanos posted:It works fine in DBZ because DBZ isn't flirting with making any kind of serious societal commentary and operates on the "are you, at this moment, actively trying to kill the protagonists and/or their families? no? okay you're good" system of morality. Even then they're way worse at making new friends than Kirby is
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I am not really sure what argument people are making about Toga here. The story already said she is going to face consequences, just that she now has someone on her side who is going to try to help her. What exactly do you think should happen if someone surrenders and admits they were wrong and there is a genuine expression of wanting to be helped?
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ImpAtom posted:I am not really sure what argument people are making about Toga here. The story already said she is going to face consequences, just that she now has someone on her side who is going to try to help her. Bakugo will remain dead
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ImpAtom posted:I am not really sure what argument people are making about Toga here. The story already said she is going to face consequences, just that she now has someone on her side who is going to try to help her. It's not (exactly) about what happens to Toga, she's just the poster child for the argument that Society Created These Monsters. And now, after a revolution leveled several cities and the evil fried potato man is put down.... No lessons are learned and nothing will change. The only reason Toga isn't going to Super Jail is because it got knocked down, and that can be fixed with a half page featuring pro-hero Cementoss. Plus, quirks are still getting stronger. Fifteen years from now, when Toga and Uraraka's beautiful daughter gets the quirk that makes her weird about spinal fluid, we're going to see the same problems again. Nessus posted:Bakugo will remain dead We're one month out from his deathiversary.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Vegeta, evil murderer but good dad. The anti-Endeavor. Ehhhh... with Future Trunks in Super, maybe. I don't really remember him spending too much time with his Trunks.
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Jul 19, 2023 06:22
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Ehhhh... with Future Trunks in Super, maybe. I don't really remember him spending too much time with his Trunks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9WDeud275U
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Jul 19, 2023 06:50
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yep the amusement park he took trunks to after hitting him out of anger and left midway through while pouting the whole time
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ImpAtom posted:I am not really sure what argument people are making about Toga here. The story already said she is going to face consequences, just that she now has someone on her side who is going to try to help her. https://twitter.com/RukasuMHA/status/1679734178768736257/photo/1
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Mystic Mongol posted:No lessons are learned and nothing will change. The only reason Toga isn't going to Super Jail is because it got knocked down, and that can be fixed with a half page featuring pro-hero Cementoss. Plus, quirks are still getting stronger. Fifteen years from now, when Toga and Uraraka's beautiful daughter gets the quirk that makes her weird about spinal fluid, we're going to see the same problems again. this sort of seems like a judgement you'd cant make until the end of the comic not saying its going to actually make good on it, but it hasn't even gotten to the parts where it could (almost certainly) fail to do so lol
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Repost from Space BattlesOmegaShark31, post: 94001440, member: 413968 posted:
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This loving sucks.
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lol I don't know why I expected anything else.
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What, a redemption story in a superhero/supervillain plotline? That never happens.
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CommieGIR posted:What, a redemption story in a superhero/supervillain plotline? That never happens. I think they're referring to Toga apparently dying, given Uraraka's distress and Toga's usage of past tense.
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CommieGIR posted:What, a redemption story in a superhero/supervillain plotline? That never happens. Love to queerbait then literally immediately bury the gay away.
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Kanos posted:I think they're referring to Toga apparently dying, given Uraraka's distress and Toga's usage of past tense. Ah that makes sense. ZenMasterBullshit posted:Love to queerbait then literally immediately bury the gay away. The forbidden yuri/GL will fuel the internet for decades to come CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Jul 19, 2023 |
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I have a feeling they aren't gonna have that play out the way people are thinking
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Fabricated posted:I have a feeling they aren't gonna have that play out the way people are thinking Yeah same
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Horikoshi didn't even seem to be able to commit to having Dabi die after he literally reduced himself to a smoldering skeleton. He's almost certainly not going to have Toga die giving Ochako way more blood than she needs.
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Fabricated posted:Horikoshi didn't even seem to be able to commit to having Dabi die after he literally reduced himself to a smoldering skeleton. He's almost certainly not going to have Toga die giving Ochako way more blood than she needs. I concur with this, but I have to admit that it would be absolutely hilarious for Dabi to explode himself into a flaming skeleton several times and still manage to not die but for Toga to somehow manage to kill herself with a blood transfusion.
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I'm gonna try the bulk of this thread at the hague for crimes against reading children's comics
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Looper posted:I'm gonna try the bulk of this thread at the hague for crimes against reading children's comics Anime/Manga in general.txt
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It would be incredibly stupid if Shiggy survives and gets to atone for his past misdeeds when he kills more people in one arc than the rest of the League probably have combined (aside from maybe Twice), while Toga just dies to avoid dealing with the fallout of her actions.
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From the leaked images, if this is a fake-out death it's a really drat convincing one. There's no way Shigaraki survives though. For a while I thought they could just de-quirk him but now that he has All Might level strength, speed and the uncanny ability to poo poo out hands from every orifice he's just way too overpowered to be left alive. He's also completely unrepentant and doesn't have mental instability as an excuse like Toga. I would have bet the house on him making the sacrifice play but if Toga has beat him to it I have no clue now.
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I really thing Toga is going to get away by Ochako giving her blood to "hide" after all this ends. I don't see her ending up in prison.
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Loving people losing their minds over the similarities between this death and Bakugo's death, down to same-angle panels and framing Can't wait for the scans and officials to get a better look at it
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It would be better if she was faking her death to avoid going to prison, but we'll have to wait to see
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https://tcbscans.com/chapters/7443/my-hero-academia-chapter-395?date=21-7-2023-1
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Endeavor is absolutely trashed, good god Whoops
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doomrider7 posted:Repost from Space Battles loling at the people who were like “no way these leaks are real, it’s too stupid”
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CharlestonJew posted:loling at the people who were like “no way these leaks are real, it’s too stupid” they were too stupid not to be!
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Toga's killed too many people for a last-minute redemption and surrender to feel appropriate so narratively this is the safest way for her character arc to end, but by god it would've been hilarious if she had instead survived to be Ochako's prison gf she visits to donate blood to would've been dumb as hell but also brave and actually memorable
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Man, Toga would've been a great medical hero, but society failed in nurturing that and she's not sticking around to partake in it after they skip forward past all the restructuring of the hero system ... Right, so, what's the over-under on her surviving thanks to the power of offscreenland once the viewpoint switches again?
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Runa posted:Toga's killed too many people for a last-minute redemption and surrender to feel appropriate so narratively this is the safest way for her character arc to end, but by god it would've been hilarious if she had instead survived to be Ochako's prison gf she visits to donate blood to Those are just two of the three ways it ends. The other is that she lives somehow, but "sort of died" and that along with "societies failure to accept and accomodate her quirk(not necessarily untrue, but her actions go WAAAAY beyond acceptable response)" leads to her getting a reduced sentence like probation if not full acquittal. This is the TRUE maximum stupidest loving possible course of action and thus most likely in my opinion. Edit: I do find it super off-putting in an "Obito was the coolest guy/Thank you Eren" kind of way how some people treat this arc/fight whatever you wanna call it as some incredibly deep and profound thing and those who don't like it are "just not mature enough to understand it" or lack empathy or some other poo poo. Edit: Actually, Obito and Eren have been brought up as better examples so I'll go with those. doomrider7 fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Jul 21, 2023 |
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gotta say the selection of the most cowardly possible ending here does not bode well for what is left to come. this was lame enough that "status quo reasserted, some edges filed off" feels like a dead lock for the ending, but also coherent enough that I can't expect we'll get anything truly zany like "we turned shigaraki into a baby so he can get raised right this time" or memorably dumb like "thank you for becoming a mass murderer for our sake"
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Vinylshadow posted:Right, so, what's the over-under on her surviving thanks to the power of offscreenland once the viewpoint switches again? Well, we have spent a good amount of the thread making unhappy remarks about Hori's treatment of female characters recently, so I'm not optimistic.
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Yeah, I really think the ending of Toga's arc and Ochako's arc of wanting to be a real hero is going to end with Toga's corpse draped over Ochako. Are you kidding me?
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Fabricated posted:Yeah, I really think the ending of Toga's arc and Ochako's arc of wanting to be a real hero is going to end with Toga's corpse draped over Ochako. Are you kidding me? You're right that it would be pretty stupid, but this manga does have a pretty established bad habit of pointlessly killing female characters and an equally established bad habit of completely fumbling major plot arcs. Remember when the resolution to the mutant racism arc was "people are nicer to mutants now so you're just making it worse, go home" and then all the angry mutants bashfully dispersed? So while I think this is probably a fakeout, it wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't.
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