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Lurks With Wolves posted:-W Corp Meursault's glow-up is what they introduced this mechanic with, and N Corp Meursault actually sounds like a really solid tank now I'd recommend UT4ing R Corp Meursalt, personally. His charge generation is doubled across the board, plus S3 can hit 21 when you're charged. All of his 000s get a lot from UT4 though, so there's no real wrong way to go with him. UT4 W Faust is legit in MD2 hard, definitely worth considering against L Corp depending on what you want out of her slot. L Corp is going to bring more personal damage, but it's easy to hit a key charged S2 or S3 with W Faust now and that is a ton of debuffing on top of good clash values.
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Hey guys, go read Don telepole t4 corrosion. Anyways she got better somehow, setting up the entire charge team for only a handful of ego resources.
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TeeQueue posted:Hey guys, go read Don telepole t4 corrosion. There's some hilarity on Tier IV in identities being mostly a balancing act, with the worst IDs getting good upgrades and great IDs getting meh ones. And then you look at EGOs and they made Legerdermain, Telepole, Sunshower, Fluid Sac even better than before. Gotta force people to spend shards!
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Lurks With Wolves posted:Here's a rough attempt at making a list of the "holy poo poo get this" ones, at least. (With the caveat that I haven't seen the Uptie 4 benefits for a few characters like our good friend Tree Sang.) I'd strike R Corp Heathcliff from that list. 3 ammo is nice, but it's such a loving minor update compared to everyone else on that list. You already have to spend a lot of resources on uptie 4, good god, don't blow it on a top tier ID that gets functionally one extra turn, even if it is a strong turn. If you're running out of ammunition during regular fights, you are doing something very very wrong. Most story bosses don't last long enough to require that extra turn. You are uptying an ID solely for Railway/MD2 hard. Every other id on that list, you can see the immediate benefits right away, R Heathcliff, you'll only see it on the content with inflated HP, and that's always been R Heathcliff's weakest point. An extra turn won't change that. You want to buff your R Heathcliff? Go for his EGO, his AEDD apparently goes from single target to three! Marluxia fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jul 20, 2023 |
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I didn't have much Thread so I've only got Warp Don at 4.
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DrManiac posted:I really need an uptie priority list. please trade with me, I only get EGO and Meursault IDs Marluxia posted:I'd strike R Corp Heathcliff from that list. 3 ammo is nice, but it's such a loving minor update compared to everyone else on that list. You already have to spend a lot of resources on uptie 4, good god, don't blow it on a top tier ID that gets functionally one extra turn, even if it is a strong turn. It's a really strong turn. I know just getting +3 ammo and a slightly better passive is real stupid for the cost but it is actually very good. Probably not a priority compared to like R Ish though. IMO the one to strike is Grip Faust if you aren't using an N Corp team.
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Yinlock posted:please trade with me, I only get EGO and Meursault IDs Relying on fortune instead of converting all Lunacy to enkephalin refills for more mirror dungeon runs. No one to blame but yourself.
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I think at this point I'm going to hang tight until we get the event previews before doing any more upgrading. I figure the event itself will give a ton of materials, going by Hell's Chicken, so just being able to charge through with the event crew and stock back up should give a lot more potential UT4s once I figure out where I want to spend more. Liu crew is, of course, a favorite... I'm kind of tempted to revisit some of the Bleed standbys before RR2, actually. KK Ryoshu gets a pretty universal 20% damage buff once things are rolling, there's a lot more nail generation across the board at UT4 (and Fanatic is stronger than ever, ofc), and R Meursalt is the godking of bleed count.
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I was originally thinking of mostly waiting for the event but dang, the W Don and R Ishmael upties are tempting. Charge is also good in mirror specifically, there are a good few charge gifts and they're all solid.
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Honestly R Ishmael seems like the best bang for your... shards. Massive upgrade and more self sufficient than Liu Ish. The one no brainer is Fluid Sac though, literally refunds its Sanity cost on Head what the f- GiantRockFromSpace fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Jul 20, 2023 |
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I think R Ishmael is the one UT4 I'd universally recommend -- her entire kit works so much better now, and she was already pretty solid if you were willing to micromanage. Tank IDs (Meursalt's 000s, K Hong Lu, etc) also have their aggro mechanics locked behind UT4, but I think that's a much safer set of decisions to wait on until we know what RR2 is looking like.
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Yeah, R Ishmael is safe bet. If you have her and want to use her, uptying her to tier 4 is a no-brainer. It's a massive jump in power for her and actually worth the resources spent. She is the big winner of this update.
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Like some dev must have felt bad about how they designed her cause like drat. Her S1 is literally the best S1 in the game in terms of clashing, at 14 max with no bonuses it's as strong as the average S2. And she fits very well Sin wise with Fluid Sac, with 3 gloom and 2 envy and a Gloom evade. And now she can store a shitton of Charge to be able to use Mind Whip in whatever battles take longer than average.
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LostRook posted:Relying on fortune instead of converting all Lunacy to enkephalin refills for more mirror dungeon runs. No one to blame but yourself. My strategy is to spark good IDs immediately then pull them a week later and cry GiantRockFromSpace posted:Like some dev must have felt bad about how they designed her cause like drat. Her S1 is literally the best S1 in the game in terms of clashing, at 14 max with no bonuses it's as strong as the average S2. And she fits very well Sin wise with Fluid Sac, with 3 gloom and 2 envy and a Gloom evade. And now she can store a shitton of Charge to be able to use Mind Whip in whatever battles take longer than average. And clashing wasn't even her weakness, she was already pretty good at it and they just made it better Charge-focused IDs in general seem to have gotten a lot of this
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here's a community-made list of all the uptie 4 changes Shi Heathcliff's weird +1 weight on his S3 at 50% HP might be the funniest one e: no wait the funniest is Tailsman Sinclair's S3 becoming worse by giving 7 Talisman instead of 5, which means the effect ends next turn Yinlock fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Jul 20, 2023 |
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Yeah, with this, Rish isn't just usable, now she's pretty drat good. Now I can have Ms. Fluffy Hair in my charge party!
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Yinlock posted:here's a community-made list of all the uptie 4 changes Talisman Sinclair is the anti-R Ishmael: after spending shitload resources on him he becomes.....significantly worse than he was at Uptie 3? I think someone forgot about the max Talisman count. 
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I'm wondering if Kuro Ryoshu could actually fit on a charge team, her Uptie IV makes her dish out a shitload of Bleed Count and she gets fat damage boosts at high Count levels, between her and R Meur it actually becomes feasable to keep a good Bleed stack going. Only issue is her coins aren't great. I'm still hit with decision paralysis on what to uptie/threadspin first. W Don is an easy one and probably Legerdemain once Gregor gets a better ID for me(G Gregor is still good but I find myself not using him much) but I dunno about anything else. Probably R Ish since I have her at 35 anyway due to Canto 4's robots driving me insane Speaking of G Gregor, he's apparently currently bugged to poo poo and doesn't heal on IV(unless that got patched) so uh might wanna hold off on that if you were gonna go for it. Lt. Lizard posted:Talisman Sinclair is the anti-R Ishmael: after spending shitload resources on him he becomes.....significantly worse than he was at Uptie 3? I think someone forgot about the max Talisman count. Yeah he had a weird and finicky but decent strategic niche(e: tried to explain it but i'm bad at it) and while his IV doesn't necessary torpedo it it makes it harder to pull off. TBF he's still fine at 3 so uh just don't Uptie him. Yinlock fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Jul 20, 2023 |
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...so it's entirely possible I missed something somewhere during the last massive update but is there a reason I did my weekly Hard Mirror Dungeon run and it seemed to have eaten all three of my weekly normal Mirror Dungeon bonuses? Fair enough if that's the case (the reward for the Hard run was obscene) but just checking I didn't run into a glitch or something.
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Garren_Windspear posted:...so it's entirely possible I missed something somewhere during the last massive update but is there a reason I did my weekly Hard Mirror Dungeon run and it seemed to have eaten all three of my weekly normal Mirror Dungeon bonuses?
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RandomReader posted:That's working as intended, Hard eats up all your remaining weekly bonus for more bp. Thanks for the information! Good to know I'm not just going crazy.
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RandomReader posted:That's working as intended, Hard eats up all your remaining weekly bonus for more bp. Wait, so you should do Hard first before anything else? Or can you get the same by doing 2 normal and 1 hand? Wanted more starlight before the hard run this week.
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Also FYI (I got hit by this, rip), after you consume your Hard Run bonus, you don't get any rewards for beating MD2 Hard anymore, so switch back to Normal and stay there. They're gonna change it, but don't have an ETA on when: https://twitter.com/LimbusCompany_B/status/1679750852624670721
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:Wait, so you should do Hard first before anything else? Or can you get the same by doing 2 normal and 1 hand? Wanted more starlight before the hard run this week. The only unique reward Hard gives is the weekly hard mode bonus. So you can do any number of normal and then a hard and it will be the same more or less. It's just if you do 1 hard first you don't have to do 2 additional normals after for all the weekly rewards. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Jul 21, 2023 |
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Lord_Magmar posted:The only unique reward Hard gives is the weekly hard mode bonus. So you can do any number of normal and then a hard and it will be the same more or less.
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 Friendly reminder that Don Telepole's +10 charge is on hit, not on use. Meaning that if it hits two people you instantly max out charge.
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GilliamYaeger posted:
Ah, so now solo don can rip space twice per turn if the coins align.
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Lord_Magmar posted:Ah, so now solo don can rip space twice per turn if the coins align.
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GilliamYaeger posted:Three times. Rip > Telepole > Rip > Rip. Four really, S1 or S2 at high enough charge > Rip Rip > Telepole > Rip Rip.
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RandomReader posted:Last I knew using the bonus up on hard gave you more bp per weekly bonus than normal, but I haven't double checked that since the past few rebalancings.
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GilliamYaeger posted:
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Boy, my new Charge team is certainly killing everything in its path, especially if they get a few Gifts that help with charge. 4th tier Rish, Rsault, and Rcliff combined with W-Don makes for a really heavy hitting team. All you need to add is Faust for the occasional SP fixings.
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i would like to point out that friends just got a massive buff remember to go through and make your active lendable(s?) one of your UT4s
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Most gacha games' summer event: here, our characters in sexy swimsuits. Project Moon gacha game: here, our sexy man in a Shrimp suit (4.5 longer trailer up is what I'm saying)
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https://twitter.com/LimbusCompany_B/status/1682315166401302528 I have so much to say and yet so few words. Just... Watch it. Hong lu magical girl shimp kigu. my wife in a wetsuit. i am weeping.
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https://vxtwitter.com/LimbusCompany_B/status/1682318463816327170?t=1DI_hB8fwpExJjg_rVE_Ew&s=19 Featuring Magical Boatworker Hong Lu and Ishmael in the least sexy swimsuit known to man.  Ish's expression is amazing. EDIT: WAIT A SECOND   IS THAT loving MOLAR OFFICE?! GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Jul 21, 2023 |
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GilliamYaeger posted:IS THAT loving MOLAR OFFICE?! the discard meta is back, and it's pissed Also boy they really love Ishmael this season huh. Maybe next Canto won't be about her since they just gave her 3 IDs in a very short time-frame e: also Ryoshu just got 2 EGOs but I guess she just gets all of them, otoh it's very funny. Yinlock fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Jul 21, 2023 |
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GilliamYaeger posted:https://vxtwitter.com/LimbusCompany_B/status/1682318463816327170?t=1DI_hB8fwpExJjg_rVE_Ew&s=19 Looks more like the girl from san’s office Anyways I can’t believe my “swimsuit Ishmael but it’s like a full diving suit” shitpost was dead on.
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GilliamYaeger posted:least  I beg to differ. But in all seriousness I think my favorite part here (aside from Crab Driver:tm:) is that Hong Lu's mahou shoujou transformation sequence is like 90% of the attack animation and then he just bitchslaps them with about one million shrimps.
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