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Horatius Bonar posted:
Just for anyone who's unawares, these rock. Big enough that the flex duct from the dryer fits in it and the dryer can fit close to the wall as intended.
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Blowjob Overtime posted:I figured it was thrown in that way because an inspector told them they were required to have an outlet on the island, although I guess that doesn't negate what you're saying: Having never had a kitchen large enough to have islands: why would an outlet be required? To remove the temptation to string an extension cord through the room when putting a food processor on the island?
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Zopotantor posted:Having never had a kitchen large enough to have islands: why would an outlet be required? Exactly this, to remove the use of an extension cord or connecting the appliance cord across a walking area.
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Jul 19, 2023 18:57
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Along the same lines, why do several of my kitchen appliances have a tag on the cord that says don't plug into an island/under counter outlet?
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Jul 19, 2023 20:36
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I think I've spotted a design flaw with this urinal.
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Xenoborg posted:Along the same lines, why do several of my kitchen appliances have a tag on the cord that says don't plug into an island/under counter outlet? Drip path? That is, liquid follows the cord to the plug and outlet?
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Jul 19, 2023 21:01
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Risk of something pulling on the cord and having the appliance fall on them. Little kids, pets, etc.
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Jul 19, 2023 21:53
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Get hanging lamps that can hide outlets and run a second, not-switched circuit into them.
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Jul 19, 2023 22:09
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StormDrain posted:Just for anyone who's unawares, these rock. Big enough that the flex duct from the dryer fits in it and the dryer can fit close to the wall as intended. Hardline all the way, but if you're going to use flex this is probably as good as you're going to get. Semi rigid can get hosed.
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I have no idea why anyone would still buy a vented dryer or build or renovate a house around one. I'm sure it somehow makes twisted sense in the USA.
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Flipperwaldt posted:I have no idea why anyone would still buy a vented dryer or build or renovate a house around one. I'm sure it somehow makes twisted sense in the USA. Summers do be hot.
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Platystemon posted:Summers do be hot.
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Flipperwaldt posted:Perfect for a heat pump dryer that takes heat from the room and keeps recycling it. Air only, vent into living space, no condenser stage Now you have a swamp cooler.
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Jul 20, 2023 01:41
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Platystemon posted:Air only, vent into living space, no condenser stage
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Flipperwaldt posted:I have no idea why anyone would still buy a vented dryer or build or renovate a house around one. I'm sure it somehow makes twisted sense in the USA. Standard dryers are cheaper and faster than heat pump dryers and if you already have a gas dryer its not as direct of a replacement. That said, I want to try a heat pump dryer once I have to replace mine, even though I'm worried about the additional emphasis on keeping it clean because I have a corgi that sheds everywhere.
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Cat Hatter posted:Hardline all the way, but if you're going to use flex this is probably as good as you're going to get. Semi rigid can get hosed. I might be an idiot but I'm not sure how to connect a dryer to the wall outlet with rigid duct. That's the only place flex duct should be used so the dryer can be pulled and pushed into place. Everything after the dryer box is steel duct out of the house of course.
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I cemented my dryer in place so that it could feel my commitment to the renovation. I plan on shooting it full of .45 rounds if it breaks so that the next dryer knows the score. I am American and my house is built entirely from poorly-informed European snark, this material is sometimes called 'school shootings lmao'.
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StormDrain posted:I might be an idiot but I'm not sure how to connect a dryer to the wall outlet with rigid duct. That's the only place flex duct should be used so the dryer can be pulled and pushed into place. Everything after the dryer box is steel duct out of the house of course. If you have the washer and dryer side by side you can push the dryer into place, hook up the rigid duct, and then put the washer in. There are also some situations where you can access the side of the dryer even when both are in place. It would be pretty trivial for me to do it. I could use either using an elbow at the dryer, a short length of round duct at about 45°, and another elbow or using one of those periscope ducts. Instead I just have a short length of flex duct because gently caress it the total vent run to the outside of the house is barely 3' 6' and using flex makes it trivial to take off and clean.  Maybe next time I clean it I will replace it. Maybe. Shifty Pony fucked around with this message at 09:25 on Jul 20, 2023 |
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Some nationality is going to fight me for posting this, but I don’t know which one.
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Let's all team up like the Planeteers.
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StormDrain posted:I might be an idiot but I'm not sure how to connect a dryer to the wall outlet with rigid duct. That's the only place flex duct should be used so the dryer can be pulled and pushed into place. Everything after the dryer box is steel duct out of the house of course. Elbow off the back of the dryer, pipe to the duct, probably another elbow so they line up. When you push the dryer into place to meet the elbow you just stop an inch or two shy so you can guide them together and then push it the rest of the way there. It's more of a pain to move the dryer but it stays so much cleaner you'll hardly need to clean it anyway.
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Platystemon posted:Some nationality is going to fight me for posting this, but I don’t know which one. That's a version of a Dutch door, although I haven't seen one where the bottom panel opens before. Why you'd want it use it for a bathroom is beyond me. Maybe they make huge stinks and have a massive ventilator fan that needs lots of air.
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Deteriorata posted:That's a version of a Dutch door, although I haven't seen one where the bottom panel opens before. From the looks of it, that door predates indoor plumbing.
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You'd trade the full turd bucket through the lower door and get a new one if you still had more to go
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Deteriorata posted:That's a version of a Dutch door, although I haven't seen one where the bottom panel opens before. Perhaps the bottom door is to allow the cat to walk in and out of the room while excluding the other humans in the house.
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Cat Hatter posted:Elbow off the back of the dryer, pipe to the duct, probably another elbow so they line up. When you push the dryer into place to meet the elbow you just stop an inch or two shy so you can guide them together and then push it the rest of the way there. It's more of a pain to move the dryer but it stays so much cleaner you'll hardly need to clean it anyway. Oh. Well, I kind of assumed we were using different terminology on the same thing or having a miscommunication. I think the only issue I have with that is not having the ductwork taped together and having lint blow out through the connections. Otherwise that is the smoothest with the least air resistance so good job.
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Flipperwaldt posted:I have no idea why anyone would still buy a vented dryer or build or renovate a house around one. I'm sure it somehow makes twisted sense in the USA. If a heat pump dryer is one of those things that was in my flat in Portsmouth that had a little tank of water I needed to empty and never heated the clothes above body temperature and also completely failed to actually get the clothes more dry than 'somewhat damp' despite running multiple cycles for an entire day, I have some ideas.
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Phanatic posted:If a heat pump dryer is one of those things that was in my flat in Portsmouth that had a little tank of water I needed to empty and never heated the clothes above body temperature and also completely failed to actually get the clothes more dry than 'somewhat damp' despite running multiple cycles for an entire day, I have some ideas. That's probably a condensation dryer which is related but worse.
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Phanatic posted:If a heat pump dryer is one of those things that was in my flat in Portsmouth that had a little tank of water I needed to empty and never heated the clothes above body temperature and also completely failed to actually get the clothes more dry than 'somewhat damp' despite running multiple cycles for an entire day, I have some ideas. Technology has advanced
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Plumbing by HR Giger Edit: Goddammit
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It was more effort to do that than to do it right.
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Phanatic posted:If a heat pump dryer is one of those things that was in my flat in Portsmouth that had a little tank of water I needed to empty and never heated the clothes above body temperature and also completely failed to actually get the clothes more dry than 'somewhat damp' despite running multiple cycles for an entire day, I have some ideas. No, that just sounds like a lovely and/or broken dryer.
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Probably don’t take ‘cheap enough a landlord would install it’ as a good example of any technology or appliance.
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TwoDice posted:That's probably a condensation dryer which is related but worse. Yep. This is what the airflow in a condenser dryer looks like:   Note that the dryer is simply passing room air over a heat exchanger to cause condensation. That means the system is unable to drop the dew point of the air in the dryer below room temperature. This is what the airflow in a heat pump dryer looks like:   That evaporator coil is driven to be very cold, just above freezing ideally, so the air going into the drum is extremely dry. The heat extracted by the evaporator is immediately dumped back into the dried cold air to heat it back up, making the system very efficient. A condenser dryer is like hanging your clothes up in the shade in a foggy swamp, a heat pump dryer is like hanging them up in the shade in the desert.
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Shifty Pony posted:. I’m so confused that this would be a thing.
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I don't think I've ever seen a drier that wasn't some variant of heat pump. I can't imagine condenser driers are of literally any use in a climate where the humidity isn't zero.
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Shifty Pony posted:This is what the airflow in a heat pump dryer looks like: O.K. but imagine if instead of squeezing that little bit of moisture out of the recycled air by chilling and immediately heating it, you instead ran it on an open loop, heating room air, blowing it over the clothes, and exhausting this hot, moist air out of the building. Meanwhile, the evaporator exchanges heat with indoor air, cooling the air and yielding heat to dry the clothes. This would be like having a “portable” air conditioner that dries your clothes as a free side effect.
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