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Slotducks posted:American healthcare is loving weird and cringe imagine paying for medical services Well yeah it's a terrible system if you're looking for better medical outcomes, but it's a brilliant way to ensure massive wealth transfers to the wealthy with relatively little cost on their part. You'll also see plenty of Americans who credit Obama's massive handout to insurance companies as a good thing, because in exchange for giving them everything they wanted he made them promise they'd take sick people's money too. This gift was also literally the Republican plan Americans rejected as too trash in the 90's, but somehow is the really amazing thing that Obama spent all his political capital on, so is a valid shield for why he wasn't a monster who only made the world worse and failed to deliver a single campaign promise.
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Coolness Averted posted:Well yeah it's a terrible system if you're looking for better medical outcomes, but it's a brilliant way to ensure massive wealth transfers to the wealthy with relatively little cost on their part. Well that sure taught that ML girl what she gets for turning him down
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ikanreed posted:Well that sure taught that ML girl what she gets for turning him down
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loving love ethereal bisexuals
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Coolness Averted posted:Well yeah it's a terrible system if you're looking for better medical outcomes, but it's a brilliant way to ensure massive wealth transfers to the wealthy with relatively little cost on their part. Hillary was kind of right. once. I say this begrudgingly.
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Slotducks posted:American healthcare is loving weird and cringe imagine paying for medical services My student loan debt is as much as a small house in many areas of the US, this country sucks, I'm relying on a small inheritance in order to pay it off someday Imagine going bankrupt because of medical debt (number 1 bankruptcy reason in the US) and having $50-$150k non dischargeable student loan debt.
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:medical billing shouldn't exist Agreed.
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Anchor Wanker posted:I just haven't paid my medical bills in 10 years what are they gonna do, break your legs
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Milo and POTUS posted:what are they gonna do, break your legs https://features.propublica.org/medical-debt/when-medical-debt-collectors-decide-who-gets-arrested-coffeyville-kansas/ Welcome to Coffeyville, Kansas, where the judge has no law degree, debt collectors get a cut of the bail, and Americans are watching their lives — and liberty — disappear in the pursuit of medical debt collection.
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HashtagGirlboss posted:Welcome to Coffeyville, Kansas, where the judge has no law degree, debt collectors get a cut of the bail, and Americans are watching their lives — and liberty — disappear in the pursuit of class warfare.
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Also they misspelled coffee right there in the town name
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Anchor Wanker posted:I just haven't paid my medical bills in 10 years That's what I thought until they started garnishing my wages! 
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Every time I think I've nailed down what they mean by "woke" they throw me a curve ball.
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Coolness Averted posted:Weirdly enough 'therapy' is not a suggested treatment for depression by Kaiser Permanente When i first saw this picture, I thought, ok, no therapy, they're going to send everybody to semiannual med checks with a PA. But no, meds aren't on the table either! So basically nothing.
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wash bucket posted:Every time I think I've nailed down what they mean by "woke" they throw me a curve ball. I've been doing a lot of reading about the lead-up to WWII lately and basically you can replace woke with "jewish / bolshevist" and it's the same thing just 100 years later
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wash bucket posted:Every time I think I've nailed down what they mean by "woke" they throw me a curve ball. woke just means "new facts" now.
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Centrist Dad posted:When i first saw this picture, I thought, ok, no therapy, they're going to send everybody to semiannual med checks with a PA. But no, meds aren't on the table either! So basically nothing. A solid 70% of depression support materials are "just don't be depressed" or "just do these things (that get infinitely harder if you're depressed". The remaining 30% is "have you tried not being poor and spending a shitload on drugs and therapy" Luckily I'm sure constantly increasing rates of mental illness don't have any bad repercussions.
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A democracy wouldn't have a thing called GOD drat "Kaiser Permanente" which, coincidentally, is Mitt Romney's current Twitler handle.
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tokin opposition posted:A solid 70% of depression support materials are "just don't be depressed" or "just do these things (that get infinitely harder if you're depressed". I got an ADHD diagnoses and my PCP was like "ok sure but if I prescribe you amphetamines it might help... but amphetamines will help anyone concentrate." and I'm like "ok meth me up my man"
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Funny enough there was only 1 mandatory question on KP's depression screening program a more professionally phrased "Are you a pill head trying to scam your fix from us?"
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:imo the most feasible path to universal healthcare in the US is to let KP grow and then nationalize it in a single action The Catholic Church will gobble them up, first.
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Milo and POTUS posted:lmao that state is so hosed and nobody is going to care
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wash bucket posted:Every time I think I've nailed down what they mean by "woke" they throw me a curve ball. i think this is why my dad called me to ask me to explain woke was, which i did but had to add them addendum that right-wing nutjobs like to just use it as a snarl word for anything and everything
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woke is the store not having the gin that’s on sale (happened this week to me) 
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Coolness Averted posted:Funny enough there was only 1 mandatory question on KP's depression screening program a more professionally phrased "Are you a pill head trying to scam your fix from us?" Wait hold on what kind of pills can you get from them, so I can avoid those.
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tokin opposition posted:A solid 70% of depression support materials are "just don't be depressed" or "just do these things (that get infinitely harder if you're depressed". that all works quite well if your baseline is changing, say from medicine oh look, they didn’t provide you any material that actually requires a medical professional!
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A crazy part about american insurance policies is how good the good ones are, like a public employee with access to a good plan just has functional healthcare for them/their family. I work in a blue collar industry and my access sucks, my boss is going through a nightmare with some awful stuff with his wife, huge deductibles, limited coverage, fighting with insurance reps and having to take her to hospitals in more major cities hours away rather than the good ones we have here. Meanwhile my wife just has a good plan through her uni work that even with the penalty of me having "access to insurance through work" is cheaper to have me on than our cheapest garbage plan and we've gone through some bankruptcy for average americans level treatments that are just covered with no fuss with our local providers. The discrepancy just highlights how awful the for profit system is and how obvious it should be for everyone to be on state/fed plans for the benefit of everyone.
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PoundSand posted:A crazy part about american insurance policies is how good the good ones are, like a public employee with access to a good plan just has functional healthcare for them/their family. I work in a blue collar industry and my access sucks, my boss is going through a nightmare with some awful stuff with his wife, huge deductibles, limited coverage, fighting with insurance reps and having to take her to hospitals in more major cities hours away rather than the good ones we have here. Meanwhile my wife just has a good plan through her uni work that even with the penalty of me having "access to insurance through work" is cheaper to have me on than our cheapest garbage plan and we've gone through some bankruptcy for average americans level treatments that are just covered with no fuss with our local providers. The discrepancy just highlights how awful the for profit system is and how obvious it should be for everyone to be on state/fed plans for the benefit of everyone. protip: work for a multinational. I work for a Canadian company and the HR team that helped with onboarding was in France. I am on a “high deductible health plan” that has a max OOP less than than the deductible on my last company’s “normal” health plan I’m just imagining a French person choosing US benefit tiers… “wow, $1500 after premiums? that’s ridiculous!” hobbesmaster has issued a correction as of 03:00 on Jul 21, 2023 |
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I just got a job at a private company after leaving a state job at a university because I got laid off and my insurance withholding from my paychecks has literally tripled for coverage that is ever so slightly worse, like a dollar and a percent more for every base price for a service. the most frustrating part is the company is based in CA so I can see the special plans only available there - and also one in Hawaii - that are 1/3rd the price of the only one available to me and with better coverage. and this job is technically fairly generous next to other jobs in more profit oriented industries, their other benefits like retirement and stuff are about the same or better than the state. it’s hard to overstate how much better working life in the United States would be if our healthcare and thus solvency wasn’t just contingent on employment but also full of countless subtle gently caress you Byzantine distinctions on top of that basic rule of horrible coercion
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Jabarto posted:I work in medical billing 
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Frog Act posted:it’s hard to overstate how much better working life in the United States would be if our healthcare and thus solvency wasn’t just contingent on employment but also full of countless subtle gently caress you Byzantine distinctions on top of that basic rule of horrible coercion all that freedom must make up for it though, surely
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Weatherman posted:all that freedom must make up for it though, surely - freedom for dinner again? rats! - no honey rat is too expensive
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