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[in a thread about the Sackler family] I respect hustle,
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I respect Fu Xuan
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Jul 20, 2023 23:23
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Meowywitch posted:I respect Fu Xuan Because she'll let me drop Gepard, and also Sarah Wiedenheft is excellent
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Jul 20, 2023 23:29
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i feel like if youre trying to justify or explain your spending habits on the something awful forums youve already lost
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Jul 20, 2023 23:40
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Saw the leaked Fu Xuan animations. She will be mine. I can't decide whether I like her animations more, or Bibi's. 1.3 really power creeping the character animations. someone awful. posted:yeah this, i thought about buying gems but the pay-to-pull ratio is just so incredibly bad That just means that some market research guy ran the numbers and decided that you aren't the demographic they should try to target. My personal mantra for F2P spending is 'Do I want to support this company? If so, was it a $20 type of gaming experience? $60? $120?' While I'm not rabidly anti-gacha, I do dock a point or two out of principle. I actually did think of putting some money down on Genshin for their sheer care, effort, and production value. I do respect that, as rich as the founders must be nowadays, they never seemed to lose sight of being gamers at heart. But in the end, I decided that Mihoyo is doing more than fine financially as a company.
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Jul 20, 2023 23:40
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Kyrosiris posted:I'm thankful that they seem to be staggering the banners I give a poo poo about with ones I couldn't care less about. Thats a rather roundabout way of say alternating male and female 5 star character banners.
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Jul 20, 2023 23:43
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). Blade (edgy white boy jumpscare), then Kafka (must have). Dragon Dan (ehhh, could take or leave), then Fu Xuan (must have), if you believe the leaks.
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Tatsuta Age posted:[in a thread about the Sackler family] I respect hustle, Me, looking at 2022 opioid death statistics: "well played Richard Sackler, well played..."
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Jul 20, 2023 23:45
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Hahaha so I just imported my warp history out of curiosity. I had a feeling I have been kind of unlucky, though it hasn't really been a problem for me. This is worse than I thought though:   Maybe that's the real reason I'm inclined to spend all my money on Legos instead of gachas...
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Jul 20, 2023 23:46
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Kale posted:Thats a rather roundabout way of say alternating male and female 5 star character banners. If they wanted me to get invested in the dudes they need to have compelling dudes. Like Sampo, for instance.
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Jul 20, 2023 23:46
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JTJaguar, I didn't mean to suggest that you could not handle your own stuff. I was probably being too Internet lovely. I think the word "caved" carries an implicit suggestion that you did not want to submit to a negative behavior. And regardless of the fact that you are able to weather it, there are a lot of people out there who when they "cave" are spending money they need to survive. So when I say "don't spend money" I am not talking to people like you. I am talking to the people are going to be influenced by stories of spending just a bit more and hitting a jackpot, and who will spend money they don't have. People saying "support the devs" and "I tossed in twenty bucks of fun money/my entertainment budget" and "it all goes to building pity lols" are rationalizations that, when repeated, can influence people to spend more. And we know some of those influenced people are, or will become, gambling addicts. So I think it's important to talk about. I did not see people do this very much in the first couple months, but as the free jade flood petered out, and people started posting about caving in and spending when they didn't want to... I think the conversation was worth bringing up again. I don't think anyone ITT actually wants to normalize begrudgingly buying more digital anime lotto tickets Like, we all want our posting friends to be happy, right? We can all talk about this and have a disagreement without people losing their minds. If you aren't a gambling addict, it isn't about you
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Jul 20, 2023 23:56
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I'm actually kinda curious now. Are there any gacha gamers itt who have spent upwards of say, $200 in another game and are now at this point still thinking "yea, that was money well spent"?
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Jul 21, 2023 00:02
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I whaled a bit after I pulled Luocha, specifically because I was trying to pull for some 4 stars. It was to the tune of about 30 bucks, and that includes the battle pass and 3 copies of the Express Pass because I thought it would be additive. It's not. My personal rule is that if I'm enjoying the game, I will allow myself to buy the battle pass if certain conditions are met. In the case of this game that condition is getting a light cone. I feel that's a decent amount for a weapon to make my characters better along with the other rewards it gives. Shelling out an extra 10 or 20 on top on occasion is fine by me, because that's money I would have spent otherwise on junk food or other entertainment. There are limits though.
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Jul 21, 2023 00:14
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Yeah, I buy the daily jade pass because I'm having fun with the game and it's largely subsidized by google survey bux. Nothing has compelled me to spend beyond that.
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Jul 21, 2023 00:17
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big cummers ONLY posted:Like, we all want our posting friends to be happy, right? We can all talk about this and have a disagreement without people losing their minds. If you aren't a gambling addict, it isn't about you i dont even think having to police people talking about spending money is needed. i just assume the vast majority of goons are baseline 30+ and at that point you should have a better grasp on your financial state and or addictive personality under control that some random person's posts on a thread shouldn't sway you.
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Jul 21, 2023 00:22
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acumen posted:I'm actually kinda curious now. Are there any gacha gamers itt who have spent upwards of say, $200 in another game and are now at this point still thinking "yea, that was money well spent"? One goon itt spent more than that just for e6 Seele and her light cone, but at that point it's just conspicuous consumption rather than gambling, so I assume they knew what they were doing.
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Jul 21, 2023 00:25
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Futaba Anzu posted:i dont even think having to police people talking about spending money is needed. i just assume the vast majority of goons are baseline 30+ and at that point you should have a better grasp on your financial state and or addictive personality under control that some random person's posts on a thread shouldn't sway you. tell me you've never met a gambling addict without telling me you've never met a gambling addict
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Jul 21, 2023 00:28
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I'm enjoying Blade a lot (I have a soft spot for emo boys, fuckin' fight me) so I whaled a lil and pulled 30x more on his lc banner to get up to the pity. I ended up losing the 75/25, but I got Bronya's lc which is 100% the best harmony cone, and I also got 3x A Secret Vow which is Blade's 2nd best cone so I am actually quite pleased with the result. That puts my spending at like $120 for this game, but my account feels very strong now with Luocha, Blade, good eidolons on all the 4* I like, and I'll be able to get Kafka no problem for solid lighting damage/alternate team comps. So I feel like I can pretty much stop spending, and this game has been super fun for me at a time when I really needed a chill video game with interesting lore to sink my teeth into. So I guess I can counter some of the gambling problem talk by saying I don't regret what I've spent, it's fun for me to indulge myself a little and I'm perfectly happy with a month of entertainment budget going into it. I think the only game I resent whaling in was MTG arena, because they promised lots of features that never came and often changed the inherent value of things I had felt I invested in. HSR makes no illusions as to what is going on and what is being provided, and I do feel like it's pretty dang friendly to f2p at the expense of the super whales. Now I might have to get lucky to get Fu Xuan, count me as one of the people swayed by those kickass animations.
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Jul 21, 2023 01:01
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wait other then purely being dan heng's dorky adventurer was chicken and legally distinct otto apocalypse just extra padding to reuse fight zones alongside the superfluous fetch quests for the main group god drat covid did a number on development
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Jul 21, 2023 01:22
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Futaba Anzu posted:i dont even think having to police people talking about spending money is needed. i just assume the vast majority of goons are baseline 30+ and at that point you should have a better grasp on your financial state and or addictive personality under control that some random person's posts on a thread shouldn't sway you. so, that assumption is wrong. addiction can develop after you turn 30.
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Jul 21, 2023 01:29
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Dracula Factory posted:I do feel like it's pretty dang friendly to f2p at the expense of the super whales. Yeah this is a big reason why I've actually stuck to this game. Despite starting late, playing fully f2p, and having comically bad luck (unluckier than 93.3% of users lol), I can still get characters thanks to the guarantee, and I can still complete all content except the back half of MoC.
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Jul 21, 2023 01:34
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big cummers ONLY posted:so, that assumption is wrong. addiction can develop after you turn 30. dont really care, the core of what i meant was dont force people to fight other people's issues. i guess i have to add a disclaimer here since sa loves to operate on absolutes but of course i'm not advocating for everyone to just immediately drop all of their money into the game. this was only because the specific example was someone saying 'so i spent a little money' immediately met with a long dialogue of 'don't ever spend money' Jabor posted:tell me you've never met a gambling addict without telling me you've never met a gambling addict i do lol, that's why i don't gamble
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Jul 21, 2023 01:36
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^^^ ah yeah, that's fair enough.Futaba Anzu posted:i dont even think having to police people talking about spending money is needed. i just assume the vast majority of goons are baseline 30+ and at that point you should have a better grasp on your financial state and or addictive personality under control that some random person's posts on a thread shouldn't sway you. I don't see it as policing, as much as we all know how these types of monetization models work. We (and lab rats too, for that matter) are wired to get dopamine hits from pulling the lever on Skinner boxes. It's addictive and it feels good. I'd like to think that in the end, we're all looking out for each other here. Honestly I see gambling addiction (or addiction in general) as a mental health issue, just like anxiety or depression or whatever. Sometimes life happens that puts us in a more vulnerable position. It can come for anyone, at any age. At the same time, if they're not seeking help already, I doubt a bunch of goons going 'hey maybe you might be addicted' is going to change their minds much. facepalmolive fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Jul 21, 2023 |
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Jul 21, 2023 01:36
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people going 'welp, i gave in and whaled for a bit' giving themselves some self-deprecating guilt self-acknowledging it, and then getting an essay on gambling addiction is akin to someone making a light post of 'i ordered fast food on grubhubg because i really wanted a cheeseburger and fries' and someone responds seriously with dangers of unhealthy eating.
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Jul 21, 2023 01:44
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facepalmolive posted:I don't see it as policing, as much as we all know how these types of monetization models work. We (and lab rats too, for that matter) are wired to get dopamine hits from pulling the lever on Skinner boxes. It's addictive and it feels good. I'd like to think that in the end, we're all looking out for each other here. i guess i came off too hard, that is true. a lot of what i meant does sort of hinge on your last point that i don't think chat on a thread should be a huge influence in that regard unless people were unironically pushing for people to gamble like silverwolf does but unironically lol
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Jul 21, 2023 01:47
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Futaba Anzu posted:this was only because the specific example was someone saying 'so i spent a little money' immediately met with a long dialogue of 'don't ever spend money' I have good news then! That person didn't say "so I spent a little money." They said they "caved" and bought more lotto tickets after they lost the lottery. Implying they didn't want to spend, but did anyway. And then said they spent more than they wanted to. Context is important. If they had said "so I spent some money" of course I wouldn't have said anything. But that's not what happened!
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Jul 21, 2023 01:47
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big cummers ONLY posted:I have good news then! That person didn't say "so I spent a little money." They said they "caved" and bought more lotto tickets after they lost the lottery. Implying they didn't want to spend, but did anyway. And then said they spent more than they wanted to. Context is important. If they had said "so I spent some money" of course I wouldn't have said anything. But that's not what happened! you're way too uptight about this game, chill out. this aint your therapist's office
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Jul 21, 2023 01:49
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GateOfD posted:people going 'welp, i gave in and whaled for a bit' giving themselves some self-deprecating guilt self-acknowledging it, and then getting an essay on gambling addiction is akin to someone making a light post of 'i ordered fast food on grubhubg because i really wanted a cheeseburger and fries' and someone responds seriously with dangers of unhealthy eating. What? I had a one line response to that post. Then people started arguing about spending and I posted about that. Weird how everyone's objections are conveniently based on misremembering what actually happened on the last few pages
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Jul 21, 2023 01:51
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I just realized that we're not going to get a Hunt MC at all. at the end of the fight Jing swear that Destruction will get the focus of the entire Xianzhou. So in a way its going to make Eiko right, as Kafka said that the power of the Hunt was going to help them in the end
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Jul 21, 2023 01:56
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Well, after messing around with a support Blade and liking how well he plays with my Luocha, I decided to go up to the 50/50 on him. And I continue my streak (JY, Luocha, Blade) of not failing a 50/50. I also managed to avoid getting any copies of Arlan. I'm sure this will bite me in the rear end on ILDan, but what can ya do. Now I have to do the new story mission so I can actually level him up. That's annoying as heck.
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Jul 21, 2023 02:52
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what do people do with bronya's planar relics? i've been using vonwacq but its effect where it boosts first turn by 40% kind of ruins the speed tuning on somewhat of the important first turn since bronya goes first ahead of everyone in this case. do people just deal with that being the case or what?
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Jul 21, 2023 03:03
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Futaba Anzu posted:what do people do with bronya's planar relics? i've been using vonwacq but its effect where it boosts first turn by 40% kind of ruins the speed tuning on somewhat of the important first turn since bronya goes first ahead of everyone in this case. do people just deal with that being the case or what? Good news, Broken Keel just dropped and it's probably her best set. She has effect res traces so she gets 10% there, and she just needs another 10 from substats to activate it. She appreciates the crit damage herself, and it's a VERY strong buff to just hang out. Eimi fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Jul 21, 2023 |
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Jul 21, 2023 03:22
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Eimi posted:Good news, Broken Keel just dropped and it's probably her best set. She has effect res traces so she gets 10% there, and she just needs another 10 from substats to activate it. She appreciates the crit damage herself, and it's a VERY strong puff to just hang out. oh yeaa, drat going to suck replacing this err rope but i'll get on that soon
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Jul 21, 2023 03:25
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Futaba Anzu posted:oh yeaa, drat going to suck replacing this err rope but i'll get on that soon Yeah I just spent a customizable relic on a fleet of the ageless err rope. 
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Jul 21, 2023 03:33
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The more I use Blade the more I love him. Benched Seele for the first time and barely feel it since he does so much damage even against bosses.
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Jul 21, 2023 03:33
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How does blade do without his lightcone? Most of the destruction ones look bad for him.
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Jul 21, 2023 03:38
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Tagichatn posted:How does blade do without his lightcone? Most of the destruction ones look bad for him. you can just use the 4* A Secret Vow and it's almost* as good since his ATK doesnt matter as much *as usual the limited 5* is still, like, 20% ahead baseline, and even more if you whale the gently caress out and go S5 Excelzior fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Jul 21, 2023 |
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Jul 21, 2023 03:42
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Excelzior posted:you can just use the 4* A Secret Vow and it's almost* as good since his ATK doesnt matter as much Cool, thanks.
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Jul 21, 2023 03:47
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Do the bonuses from relics stack? Like if I run both bronya and Luocha with broken keel do I get both 10% bonuses?
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These new adventure quests are pretty weird. Screwing over Space PETA was a ton of fun, but grabbing a twig off a dead abomination was pretty boring. I haven't done the third yet or the new challenge quest. Speaking of, I never got full marks on the Belobog challenges. I got 30 jades from finishing the Fragmentum quest and I can grab another 20 from the Silvermane Guard one. 67 pulls since Luocha. Hopefully I can grab Blade soon. Losing the 50/50 wouldn't be horrible since I've won 3 in a row now. The only disappointing pull would be Bailu. 2 more pulls as soon as I log in tomorrow. Maybe I can scrounge 3. I also finally own a copy of Cruising in the Stellar Sea. It's going to be a few days before it can be S2 though.
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