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Oracle posted:Yes they’re doing XBB only boosters instead of bivalent but likely not for you if Offitt gets his way (or you’re in Britain) I can’t believe I used to think that guy was cool. Maybe you deserved that libel suit from Wakefield after all, buddy.
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I wish that Hilleman could visit Offit in a dream and talk some sense to him. Then again, Plotkin is still kicking and unable to break through. (archive link)
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I AM GRANDO posted:I can’t believe I used to think that guy was cool. Maybe you deserved that libel suit from Wakefield after all, buddy. Agree with Offit or not, but no-one deserves that.
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Why are people upset with Offit?
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MixMasterMalaria posted:Why are people upset with Offit? Because he made a remark that the covid vaccines should really only be for the elderly. Dr. Paul Offit posted:“If the goal of the vaccine is the stated goal, which is protection against severe disease, do you really need a yearly vaccine for otherwise healthy people less than 75? I mean, is this the flu model? Because I would argue it shouldn’t be.” It's entirely possible that this is being taken out of context because there is a possible interpretation that he is saying "we don't have to do it yearly like the flu if last year's version still provides some level of protection for people under 75" GutBomb fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Jul 22, 2023 |
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GutBomb posted:Because he made a remark that the covid vaccines should really only be for the elderly. I was under the impression that protection on these was basically gone after 6 months or something, so if THAT was his point then . . . yeahhhhhh . . . maybe he'd be better suited for a different line of work.
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Zarin posted:I was under the impression that protection on these was basically gone after 6 months or something, so if THAT was his point then . . . yeahhhhhh . . . maybe he'd be better suited for a different line of work. I don't think it's that the protection is fully gone, it is not like code, it varies. But I think it's established that it definitely wanes, partly because the variant that is here now may not be similar enough to the variant that the vaccine was for for it to work well. The 6 month booster schedule has generated a lot of "pop science" that sounds correct and has aspects of the truth sprinkled in. Again, I don't necessarily think that was what he meant, that's just an interpretation I've seen, and the one the CNN article ( https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/15/health/fda-advisers-covid-19-boosters/index.html ) that the quote is from appears to be steering the reader to without outright saying it.
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Has there been any news on that universal version of the vaccine that was being discussed last year? The US military was doing research for it. I can’t find anything more recent than last February.
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Jul 23, 2023 00:02
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Universal, nasal, and other Covid vaccines aren't being made under the 'throw most of the regulatory paperwork out the window' mad dash of Operation Warp Speed the first vaccines were made under. So they need to find unvaccinated people who've never had Covid before AND willing to be a guinea pig, then test them for a while to see fi they're not going to keel over from the vaccine first (mRNA tests had the advantage of that being done years ago for other respiratory diseases that settled themselves without serious intervention.) THEN they get to test to see if they actually work. And go through the entire slog of creating a brand new medication. You can form your own conclusions on the demographics of 'never vaccinated, never covided, willing to be guinea pig for medical science' which will slow things down on its own. Walter Reed Institute has had a promising vaccine that they were working on back in early 2021? that they were supposed to announce results on later that year that they've gone completely media silent on. Those tests aren't going to be done for years. I doubt any of them have finished, or meaningfully progressed through, phase 1 'will this cause harm to the humans we put it in' testing. killer_robot fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Jul 23, 2023 |
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killer_robot posted:the 'screw all the safety procedures, push push push!' the first vaccines were made under You sound like an anti vaxxer when you make ridiculous claims like all safety procedures were abandoned.
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GutBomb posted:I don't think it's that the protection is fully gone, it is not like code, it varies. But I think it's established that it definitely wanes, partly because the variant that is here now may not be similar enough to the variant that the vaccine was for for it to work well. Ah, gotcha. Still, sounds like an annual shot might not be a terrible thing, at least for the people that want it. I dunno, the whole gatekeeping thing just rubs me the wrong way I guess.
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Wahhabi Lobby posted:https://www.yourcentralvalley.com/news/local-news/ive-never-seen-anything-like-this-illegal-medical-lab-discovered-in-reedley/ What makes this illegal? Was it just like a regular biotech business without the right permits or was it some kind of weird secret poo poo like a larger criminal enterprise? There’s context missing in that article that leaves unclear whether this is some kind of mystery or people cutting corners on a conventional sort of operation.
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quality of reporting on it seems to... vary https://abc30.com/reedley-lab-hazardous-materials-medical-waste-prestige-biotech/13555300/ quote:"There were some laboratory mice on-site at this location. What we heard from the business owner was that they were doing some type of testing with those mice to see whether or not their Covid test kits were actually effective in detecting Covid. So, that was one example of what they shared with the purpose of the laboratory mice were being on-site," said Assistant Director with the Fresno County Department of Public Health, Joe Prado. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-believe-fresno-warehouse-was-site-illegal-laboratory-rcna96756 quote:According to court documents, city officials inspected the location at 850 I St. on March 3 for building violations and found various chemicals being stored. On March 16, an inspection by county public health officials allegedly turned up medical devices thought to have been developed on-site, such as Covid and pregnancy tests. it is, at minimum, incredibly sketchy in perfectly normal ways for an apparently chinese biotech company 
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All of this is very illegal from several directions; test kits are regulated by FDA as medical devices and have a bunch of approval requirements (even though they were loosened for covid test kits for a time, they weren't loosened that much, and these people appear to have also been testing a number of other diseases), they were handling lab animals in violation of animal welfare law, they were handling disease specimens in violation of...well a bunch of things, they were storing their materials in an illegal space. Universal Meditech, which sounded familiar, as a successor is also a bad sign, because: Recall link here This seems to have been the parent company from my limited research so far, which is just...wild: https://pi-global.com/index.html In practice this seems to have been a fraudulent/illegal/fly-by-night medical device setup which purchased the remaining assets of another fraudulent company (possibly it's the same people with both companies, setting up multiple shell entities), then moved it all into a storage warehouse in preparation for setting up another fake facility (I can't entirely tell whether they were actually using it as a lab). This is bolstered by the (now removed) ads I found for the company:  The address is an empty lot, and as you can probably guess the rest of that description isn't exactly kosher either. If anyone can track down the court documents involved, I'd love to dig into it further. Usually when someone sets up a bogus device company like this, they just don't have documentation- they don't set up weird black labs to generate it. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Jul 30, 2023 |
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Discendo Vox posted:In practice this seems to have been a fraudulent/illegal/fly-by-night medical device setup which purchased the remaining assets of another fraudulent company (possibly it's the same people with both companies, setting up multiple shell entities), then moved it all into a storage warehouse in preparation for setting up another fake facility (I can't entirely tell whether they were actually using it as a lab).
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Discendo Vox posted:All of this is very illegal from several directions; test kits are regulated by FDA as medical devices and have a bunch of approval requirements (even though they were loosened for covid test kits for a time, they weren't loosened that much, and these people appear to have also been testing a number of other diseases), they were handling lab animals in violation of animal welfare law, they were handling disease specimens in violation of...well a bunch of things, they were storing their materials in an illegal space. Your recall link is broken, but that other link... yikes.
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Recall link should now be fixed. It looks like some sort of link shortening has been added to the forums that fucks up copying and pasting the shortened link; not great. edit: what the hell, it's even converting it back into the shortened url and hyperlink when I remove the url tags. edit 2: try now, if I attach the url to separate post text the shortnening shouldn't occur. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Jul 30, 2023 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Recall link should now be fixed. It looks like some sort of link shortening has been added to the forums that fucks up copying and pasting the shortened link; not great. and its still doing it. Send it through tinyurl?
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Mellow Seas posted:Christ, why can't these people just do smash-and-grabs like honest, dignified criminals? I'm guessing they're doing all sorts of below board testing through this shell company in the hopes that that'll allow them to produce an above board product through another company faster.
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Kennedy Jr has written so many antivax books (all of which appear likely to be ghostwritten) that I can't tell which to get and review for the thread. Does anyone have suggestions?
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Discendo Vox posted:Kennedy Jr has written so many antivax books (all of which appear likely to be ghostwritten) that I can't tell which to get and review for the thread. Does anyone have suggestions? check it out from the library so you don't give that idiot a dime.
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the chuds on twitter are making noise like mandatory masking is coming back as part of biden's plan to ??? presumably no reliable source is saying this? because that would make the money sad.
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Deviant posted:the chuds on twitter are making noise like mandatory masking is coming back as part of biden's plan to ??? Chuds from time to time work themselves up into a frenzy about something. There's nothing even tangentially real to get worked up to at the moment so they're defaulting to a prior panic.
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Was there ever mandatory masking? I guess they’re talking about the rules for trains and buses?
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I AM GRANDO posted:Was there ever mandatory masking? I guess they’re talking about the rules for trains and buses? i'm not splitting hairs over the specifics, the chuds are just louder than usual today and i wasnt sure if there was a reason
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Deviant posted:i'm not splitting hairs over the specifics, the chuds are just louder than usual today and i wasnt sure if there was a reason The latest variant has started to spread quite rapidly in North America (I can’t figure out why, we’re so cautious!), so I’m sure it’s just them going into full panic mode that mandatory lock downs at gunpoint with forced microchip injections are coming back, or whatever weird reality existed in their heads over the past few years.
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Deviant posted:i'm not splitting hairs over the specifics, the chuds are just louder than usual today and i wasnt sure if there was a reason Didn’t mean to imply anything there other than that they’re stupid. I believe US wastewater numbers have been going up rapidly for the last few weeks, so they’re probably just giving the usual conditioned response to any mention of covid.
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Deviant posted:i'm not splitting hairs over the specifics, the chuds are just louder than usual today and i wasnt sure if there was a reason The reason is basically always the same: a chud media outlet or Twitter circulated some wildly inflammatory nonsense and told them to get loud about it. There's not much sense in trying to connect stuff like that to real-world events, because events in the universe of alternative facts don't actually need to have any connection to reality at all. That said, if I throw "COVID masking" into Google, I get a couple articles about hospitals reinstituting masking requirements in the last couple of days, and a handful of news articles speculating about a return to general masking in response to a potential "summer surge" of COVID. Main Paineframe fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Aug 19, 2023 |
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Can we get masks on airplanes back that would be really sweet rn
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Masks aren't coming back. That ship has sailed. Like, even if a totally different virus like bird flu really took off I doubt we could get people to mask anymore. The well is poisoned.
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spankmeister posted:Masks aren't coming back. That ship has sailed. You’re prolly right. But poo poo I work in an airport and have cancer and my wife is a pregnant stewardess trapped in a tube with southerners most days Then again back when we had rules, the people who didn’t bother were usually the people who flipped their poo poo about constitutional right to cough in your eyeballs if reminded of the rules  Sorry I’m just kinda venting, here’s to round three most likely
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I AM GRANDO posted:Was there ever mandatory masking? I guess they’re talking about the rules for trains and buses? The overlap of American chud and people who take buses or trains more than once a decade is going to be a very, very thin Venn diagram overlap. Even from a European perspective I don’t see any way masks will come back on public transport. I think the US is more into COVID mitigation and treatment than anywhere in Europe at this point, eg i don’t have any idea where one could even get a vaccine here and they never did paxlovid.
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spankmeister posted:Masks aren't coming back. That ship has sailed. Eh, the skies turning dark orange in New York City back in June from Canadian wildfire smoke seemed to trigger a noticeable uptick in high quality N95 masking among the population. If it becomes something even the most sheltered deliberate ignorant can't ignore, I can see it happening.
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Europe is a patchwork anyway, vaccine availability and eligibility was wildly different between countries.
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Oracle posted:Eh, the skies turning dark orange in New York City back in June from Canadian wildfire smoke seemed to trigger a noticeable uptick in high quality N95 masking among the population. If it becomes something even the most sheltered deliberate ignorant can't ignore, I can see it happening. There's nothing stopping people from masking voluntarily, and I'm sure way more people are used to it and own N95 (or FFP2/3) masks than before the pandemic, but I am talking about mask mandates. I don't see those coming back pretty much ever. Maybe if enough time passes until the next pandemic for it to not be so politicized anymore.
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Saladman posted:The overlap of American chud and people who take buses or trains more than once a decade is going to be a very, very thin Venn diagram overlap. This is very much not true on the Northeast Corridor.
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spankmeister posted:Masks aren't coming back. That ship has sailed. Bring back smallpox, let's see if they're still such hardasses about masks then.
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Shadowlyger posted:Bring back smallpox, let's see if they're still such hardasses about masks then. 
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