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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1680076918765367297?t=UVFrVE445B_x4rrxKoiYMQ&s=19 she finally said something that makes sense
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 13:32 |
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A Bad King posted:No smoobles no please this is a terrible joke smoobled again
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 13:45 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1680076918765367297?t=UVFrVE445B_x4rrxKoiYMQ&s=19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ls1Ou24sLk it’s not as as I hoped
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 13:53 |
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Koirhor posted:she finally said something that makes sense saying the loud part loud
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 13:55 |
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 14:03 |
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someone close to me asked me how i'm not in the corner chewing my fingernails to the bone over climate change and i gave them an overview of radical acceptance i should do a write up of my personal beliefs on all this b/c it's come up a few times now
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 14:45 |
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bowser posted:https://twitter.com/graham_caswell/status/1682053796719915010?s=46&t=J1lVrKOqDLGRcF29dzsWPA lol. lmao.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 14:46 |
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Halifax got owned yesterday, 210 mm of rain in a day when the average is 90 mm for the entire month of July. Got cellphone alerts warning of a dam being breached and to evacuate areas.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 14:50 |
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Fried Watermelon posted:Halifax got owned yesterday, 210 mm of rain in a day when the average is 90 mm for the entire month of July. ok so here's what's loving me up about this year - we're not even hearing about half of these events now. it's not like cbc isn't talking about climate change regularly but they're just coming fast and frequent so smaller events like this don't rate e: reading up on it now and yeah, holy poo poo stay safe east coast goons Cold on a Cob has issued a correction as of 14:59 on Jul 22, 2023 |
# ? Jul 22, 2023 14:55 |
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what do people mean by the term "cybernetic capitalism?" i have a vague idea, but would like some clarity
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 15:03 |
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:what do people mean by the term "cybernetic capitalism?" i have a vague idea, but would like some clarity robots you pay to gently caress
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 15:03 |
JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:what do people mean by the term "cybernetic capitalism?" i have a vague idea, but would like some clarity I think it was coined by there are many genres in this category. immunocapitalism, gender capitalism, so on. they’re just frameworks for trying to explain new behaviours of everyone’s favourite system of distribution by deed rather than need!
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 15:09 |
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Cold on a Cob posted:ok so here's what's loving me up about this year - we're not even hearing about half of these events now. it's not like cbc isn't talking about climate change regularly but they're just coming fast and frequent so smaller events like this don't rate Humans are good at normalcy bias. I like the idea that it stems from an evolutionary concept of animals becoming paralyzed and unable to process when stressed by danger. This made predators less likely to see and eat them. So millions of years later we are a society of fainting goats falling over and going "NUH UH" when disaster strikes.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 15:11 |
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mags posted:robots you pay to gently caress No, cybernetic capitalism is when the robots gently caress you. But you still have to pay
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 15:13 |
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tuyop posted:I think it was coined by
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 15:16 |
Microplastics posted:No, cybernetic capitalism is when the robots gently caress you. But you still have to pay yeah capitalism is you get hosed until you rent everything and own nothing cybernetic capitalism is when this concept extends to the functions of your body and mind through technology.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 15:16 |
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:what do people mean by the term "cybernetic capitalism?" i have a vague idea, but would like some clarity It's when the pale bald dudes in suits show up from the future and build massive carbon emitter machines across the globe and most people are still like, "Eh, these egg sticks are alright."
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 15:40 |
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Cold on a Cob posted:ok so here's what's loving me up about this year - we're not even hearing about half of these events now. it's not like cbc isn't talking about climate change regularly but they're just coming fast and frequent so smaller events like this don't rate one the biggest issues, i think, is that most people do not want to hear about it. even people who generally consider themselves as "believing in science" or whatever will fumble through a conversation about climate collapse and sometimes just straight up check out. i know i've brought up this example but i was talking about it with my boss (i work in a bar, so the delineation between staff and management is mostly a formality) and my boss was saying his "retirement plan in five years" (he is 32) is to take heroin. i said i was going to go via death by cop, and he said that sounded too complicated. no, i don't know his username. anyway, someone else came up and asked what we were talking about, and he explained, and she said, "but that's a problem for our grandchildren, right?" and he laughed, and she walked away. when she came back later she said, "yeah, i believe in that stuff, i just don't want to hear about it." either people don't think it will affect them personally, or they think that it's a problem for when they are very old and basically dead anyway, and that it won't be bad enough still for them to have to change anything.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 15:41 |
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tuyop posted:yeah capitalism is you get hosed until you rent everything and own nothing this will be fun to think about all day cash crab posted:one the biggest issues, i think, is that most people do not want to hear about it. even people who generally consider themselves as "believing in science" or whatever will fumble through a conversation about climate collapse and sometimes just straight up check out. i know i've brought up this example but i was talking about it with my boss (i work in a bar, so the delineation between staff and management is mostly a formality) and my boss was saying his "retirement plan in five years" (he is 32) is to take heroin. i said i was going to go via death by cop, and he said that sounded too complicated. no, i don't know his username.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 15:44 |
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cash crab posted:one the biggest issues, i think, is that most people do not want to hear about it. even people who generally consider themselves as "believing in science" or whatever will fumble through a conversation about climate collapse and sometimes just straight up check out. i know i've brought up this example but i was talking about it with my boss (i work in a bar, so the delineation between staff and management is mostly a formality) and my boss was saying his "retirement plan in five years" (he is 32) is to take heroin. i said i was going to go via death by cop, and he said that sounded too complicated. no, i don't know his username. I kinda get the avoidance though. There’s a parallel to radical acceptance in the perspective of not sweating it if it’s out of our control anyway. If someone acknowledges the problem but feels that for the sake of their own happiness they might as well live their life happily while they can, then who am I to judge them for that? Even if that includes avoiding the topic. Who cares if they are misjudging the amount of time we have? Of course I totally get the disdain for the culturally embedded behaviors that got us here in the first place.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 15:55 |
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Cold on a Cob posted:someone close to me asked me how i'm not in the corner chewing my fingernails to the bone over climate change and i gave them an overview of radical acceptance Something similar happened with me. My answer is what the gently caress can I do about it. Just live life and lol and lmao until I'm dead and then I don't have to worry about things anymore because I'll be dead
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:01 |
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i was told I would get to gently caress a robot if I got my bits replaced with enhanced cyber bits but at a huge markup requiring a 20 year term predatory adjustable rate loan exempted from any debt relief via congressional action influenced by Big Robot lobbying
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:12 |
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I told my boss to stop asking me what I want all the time and then told their boss that they both needed to butt out and let me work because I'm already reality-poisoned and I could tell they're both optimists and I didn't want to gently caress them up. Got something like inquisitiveness followed by hard lockup - "You can't know that/as long as there are smart people someone will figure something out" I lol'd
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:13 |
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I feel like I'm in a stage of radical acceptance mostly. Every now and then I get super down about it all but mostly I'm just trying to make the most of what we still have while we still have it.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:13 |
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I'm the wojak bellcurve meme and am back where I basically was in the early 2000s, except am now enlightened with more lols and lmaos
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:17 |
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RC Cola posted:Something similar happened with me. yeah basically the question boiled down to "how are you not a nihilist?" and it's like... i still love life and i still love a lot of humanity, even if we're irredeemable fuckups that dug ourselves into the mother of all progress traps. i can still live in accordance with my values as best i can. i think how i will act in the face of annihilation matters a lot. it isn't lost on me that people have asked me a similar question when my atheism comes up (though this one is more from assholes online, not irl) - "if you don't fear god why do you live a moral life?" like wtf?!
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:19 |
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cash crab posted:"yeah, i believe in that stuff, i just don't want to hear about it." There were "No Politics" emails sent around at work after a climate change discussion that I wasn't even involved in. The tepid New York Times level of concern for the climate between a few liberal democrats was so damaging there were multiple complaints and demands the subject be removed from existence so these people no longer have to experience it. This is why people keep trying to drive these threads off of the forums. I think we have some time though since the person coming here to drop unprompted anime villain monologues was just permabanned for an anime villain monologue in a different thread so they can't blame us for that anymore. Rectal Death Adept has issued a correction as of 16:23 on Jul 22, 2023 |
# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:20 |
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:what do people mean by the term "cybernetic capitalism?" i have a vague idea, but would like some clarity it's been used in a variety of ways by people, but insofar as it's used on c-spam, it refers to a toy theory i developed for my own understanding a couple of years ago to explain the system behavior of capitalism in the post-ww2 era, especially its response to covid, in terms of a cybernetic integration between ecological psychology and marxist theory. it does not have anything to do with robots or computers as such. i think the first big post i did on it is still pretty instructive for the theory as a whole: Zodium posted:to give the briefest possible shape and history of cybernetic capitalism, it's a physical machine made of the material social relations which comprise capital given technological-biological form, using mass communications technology to physically connect humans under its control into a self-regulating complex behavioral system organized around profit. the construction process of the ideological control complex that would go on to link us all into a vast and immane ideology-generating machine began in the early 20th century with theories of advertising, propaganda and public relations, advancing by trial and error through a proto-scientific phase of gradual transition from a disciplinary society managed by biological men to one managed by a biological-mechanical complex. it culminated theoretically in the macy conferences on cybernetics through the late 1940s. the macy conferences, by incorporating electronics, afforded the development of new and more theories of systems control and stability, and marked the beginning of cybernetic capitalism proper. once again, the machine went through a period of trial and error expansion from the 1950s to the 1970s. new control structures grew throughout both business, sowing the seeds of the just-in-time global economy and global bourgeoisie trade networks, and through the military-industrial complex, gradually maturing into institutional forces like nato, the dollar hegemony, and the complex ecosystem of three-letter agencies that work tirelessly to maintain Capital's stability. tuyop posted:yeah capitalism is you get hosed until you rent everything and own nothing if that were the case, cybernetic capitalism would just be capitalism. the cardinal trait of cybernetic capitalism is its replacement of direct ruling class control with self-organized systems of feedback loops of ecological variables which systematically constrain perception across classes to maximize its stability.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:21 |
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Car Hater posted:Got something like inquisitiveness followed by hard lockup - "You can't know that/as long as there are smart people someone will figure something out" my response to this is "there is also a super good chance there are all kinds of tipping points we haven't even thought of or our attempts to fix this will make things even worse, so i don't dwell on it"
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:22 |
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Meet the latest way the superrich prove they're really, totally worried about the environment: $10 million electric superyachts lol. lmao.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:26 |
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https://twitter.com/MrMatthewTodd/status/1682540698568884224?s=20
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:41 |
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https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/there-no-doomsday-glacier-thwaites checkmate, doomers
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:44 |
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Confusedslight posted:I feel like I'm in a stage of radical acceptance mostly. Every now and then I get super down about it all but mostly I'm just trying to make the most of what we still have while we still have it. I just try to live my life and be happy. What else is the point of everything? nothing is promised to us, you could die or become disabled or lose everything you have on any day of the week due to a grab bag of random events don’t sweat it, just be mindful of the good moments and appreciate the good things you do have now, whatever they are. nothing lasts forever, neither the good nor bad
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:48 |
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Just a Moron posted:Either that or embrace sex, drugs, and rock n' roll, both are pretty valid.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:48 |
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RC Cola posted:Something similar happened with me. I've lurked ITT for a while so I'm aware of how irrevocably hosed the planet is, but I never really understood acceptance until a few weeks back. I live within cycling distance of the coast and in summer I like to head down for a chill day out. There's one section with a bunch of tidal rock pools that have always had crabs and other sea critters to take pictures of, but this time I could barely find anything living in them. I've no idea why that one thing triggered it, but a sudden wave of calmness washed over me, along with a sense of deep sadness. I've been feeling better than I have in a long time and have started saving for a trip to Svalbard, because gently caress it might as well see some polar bears while they still exist.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:49 |
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NARRATOR: He wasn't wrong
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:50 |
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Cold on a Cob posted:my response to this is "there is also a super good chance there are all kinds of tipping points we haven't even thought of or our attempts to fix this will make things even worse, so i don't dwell on it" Sure but like I said, I didn't want to gently caress them up, even though they were my bosses I care about them as people (because I'm a sap like that) *shrugged* moved on only thing to do if you're not gonna wear the sandwich board and scream on the corner about the end is nigh
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:51 |
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mawarannahr posted:Uphold Tony Thought
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# ? May 25, 2024 20:11 |
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I worry that folks confuse disempowerment and escapism with acceptance there are gonna be all kinds of dynamics in play as this progresses allowing the folks that, at best, ignored the problem, to maintain decision-making power and influence is gonna inevitably lead to hyper-Malthusian turbo-fascism
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