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I can't believe there was a guy like that here lol
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Jul 22, 2023 16:57
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Car Hater posted:Sure but like I said, I didn't want to gently caress them up, even though they were my bosses I care about them as people (because I'm a sap like that) yeah i hear ya. there are plenty of times i just don't engage too
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Jul 22, 2023 17:06
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Unless posted:I worry that folks confuse disempowerment and escapism with acceptance That's the plan, yes
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Jul 22, 2023 17:25
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mawarannahr posted:I can't believe there was a guy like that here lol i love this website
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Jul 22, 2023 17:28
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Cold on a Cob posted:yeah basically the question boiled down to "how are you not a nihilist?" and it's like... i still love life and i still love a lot of humanity, even if we're irredeemable fuckups that dug ourselves into the mother of all progress traps. i can still live in accordance with my values as best i can. i think how i will act in the face of annihilation matters a lot. I think a fair number of people actually hate life, so to them to think that they’re suffering being unhappy now and there’s no possible payoff later (retirement, kids move out, finally feel fulfilled, whatever) seems unbearable
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Jul 22, 2023 17:28
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Ruggan posted:I think a fair number of people actually hate life, so to them to think that they’re suffering being unhappy now and there’s no possible payoff later (retirement, kids move out, finally feel fulfilled, whatever) seems unbearable yeah that's probably true fwiw when i say i love life, i mean at a fundamental level. there's all kinds of day to day poo poo in my life that frustrates me to no end - although moving into radical acceptance has actually helped me chill out a lot about all that vOv
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Jul 22, 2023 17:33
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He died only last year so he got to experience his hubris.
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Jul 22, 2023 17:36
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Communist Bear posted:He died only last year so he got to experience his hubris. It wasn't that bad, at the time
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Jul 22, 2023 18:08
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Communist Bear posted:He died only last year so he got to experience his hubris. he was one of those pro-nuclear, anti-renewable weirdos nice guy though, by all accounts
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Jul 22, 2023 18:16
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bowser posted:https://twitter.com/nickmmark/status/1682424128840806400?s=46&t=J1lVrKOqDLGRcF29dzsWPA
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Jul 22, 2023 18:22
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Unless posted:allowing the folks that, at best, ignored the problem, to maintain decision-making power and influence is gonna inevitably lead to hyper-Malthusian turbo-fascism Oh I guess I'll stop allowing that then, thanks for the heads up
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Jul 22, 2023 18:26
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https://fortune.com/2023/07/21/northeast-floods-destroys-crops-farming/quote:Storms dumped up to two months’ worth of rain over a couple of days in parts of the region, surpassing the amount that fell when Tropical Storm Irene blew through in 2011, causing major flooding. Officials have called last week’s flooding Vermont’s worst natural disaster since floods in 1927. warning for parts in there about animal/livestock losses. and yeah as bad as the climate situation is the political one is worse so things are sliding to poo poo sooner rather than later anyway. enjoy what you can while you can.
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Jul 22, 2023 18:27
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Clyde Radcliffe posted:NARRATOR: faster than expected
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Jul 22, 2023 18:38
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working in response and contingency type stuff my whole adult life has conditioned me to think anyone that can’t handle engaging this subject on any level is, in fact, in denial on the basis of terminal optimism with the occasional mixing in of technocratic just-world stuff that poo poo is a real mind-killer type thing and it goes hand in hand with the cybernetic capitalism stuff zodium talks about the only mistake here is certitude
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Jul 22, 2023 19:02
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Is it wrong that I'm sort of happy everything is exploding this year because that means I'll be alive to witness the Reckoning
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Jul 22, 2023 19:03
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Communist Bear posted:He died only last year so he got to experience his hubris. The timing of his death was impeccable. He said enjoy the next 20 years before the poo poo really hit the fan and he managed to enjoy most of them and exited the stage (at age of 103) before it really got bad. Very interesting read, I agree with a lot of what he said. I don't get the hate for renewable power, but in the last 15 years there have been a lot of advances in wind and solar and the prices of both have come down faster than the most optimistic projections. Coupled with advances in battery technology and storage, it has to be part of todays solution. Did he still consider renewable energy to be an empty promise up to his dying day or did he come around? I do agree that we need more technology, not less and that nuclear power has to be central to that. Back in the late 2000's I remember a lot of talk about carbon offsets and people thinking you could pay someone in Central America  to plant a tree and that meant you could fly to Europe guilt free. It should have been obvious that it was the same thing as a 16th century Catholic indulgence, this is now consensus view. His politics were confusing and seems to have evolved from socialist to euro skeptic, but I agree we are not going to escape market forces but this is not the same thing as this unregulated late stage capitalism / oligarchy that we have today.I guess the good news is we are now much closer to artificial photosynthesis and there is always the soylent green route, not this but rather the OG version from the 1973 movie. But real question: How did 2008 turn into 15 years ago. How does that happen?
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Jul 22, 2023 19:06
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Zeta Taskforce posted:The timing of his death was impeccable. He said enjoy the next 20 years before the poo poo really hit the fan and he managed to enjoy most of them and exited the stage (at age of 103) before it really got bad. the only “solution” (there isn’t any, it’s all too late) would be to stop making massive amounts of useless poo poo and shipping it around everywhere. stop drilling stop building cars stop stop stop. for that to work people would need to be able to access the resources that already exist so we can pivot to mitigating food crop loss and water access, preparing for catastrophic events and rapid climate change. but nah. too hard. Americans can’t even be asked to wear a face mask to save themselves from brain damage or the very least prevent the vulnerable from contracting a still pandemicing disease. guess what. more of those are coming too. thanks Exxon! quote:But real question: How did 2008 turn into 15 years ago. How does that happen? 15 years of not giving a poo poo and guess what gonna be a few more of the same until everything collapses and the rich can bunker up while the rest of us burn, drown, starve, get sick, get shot, get hosed over and over
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Jul 22, 2023 19:18
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all the technology we need exists already. a technological solution is just a dream and those are for people who are sleeping. hard to sleep when it’s 110F in your house and you can’t afford air conditioning
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Jul 22, 2023 19:20
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It's so cool that the time between now and the end of society is almost approximately the same amount of time my dad had between his terminal cancer diagnosis and his death, one thing I said was my greatest fear but am now kind of living
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Jul 22, 2023 19:21
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he's like a level beyond smooth brained. perfectly spherical wet turd just rolling around in there.
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Jul 22, 2023 19:24
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Lol I not only have forcefully been stopped from blocking Elon, I'm apparently "subscribed"
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Jul 22, 2023 19:28
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https://twitter.com/Top_Disaster/status/1682814288845746182 It's summer, it's supposed to tornado.
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Jul 22, 2023 19:37
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mags posted:the only “solution” (there isn’t any, it’s all too late) would be to stop making massive amounts of useless poo poo and shipping it around everywhere. stop drilling stop building cars stop stop stop. for that to work people would need to be able to access the resources that already exist so we can pivot to mitigating food crop loss and water access, preparing for catastrophic events and rapid climate change. but nah. too hard. Americans can’t even be asked to wear a face mask to save themselves from brain damage or the very least prevent the vulnerable from contracting a still pandemicing disease. guess what. more of those are coming too. thanks Exxon! You know and I know that this won't happen. It really is too late. Probably the only real solution would be to build a time machine and go back to the 1950s when this consumerist, extractive model where everyone could have a car and a big backyard, where every problem in agriculture could be solved by spraying something, and better living through chemistry was taking root. It would have been much easier to solve the problem if our built infrastructure still looked like 1950 and all the low density sprawl, car dependent sprawl had never been built. But someone from 2023 traveling back in time demanding to see the president trying to deliver an important message would have been immediately committed to the insane asylum. Even if they were believed, telling someone saying that the Dow Jones would be at 35,000 and it would come with unimagined advances in computing, communications and wealth and the bill for all of this wouldn't need to be paid until the very youngest of their world had grown old, they would have seen this as amazing news. quote:15 years of not giving a poo poo and guess what gonna be a few more of the same until everything collapses and the rich can bunker up while the rest of us burn, drown, starve, get sick, get shot, get hosed over and over I was being completely selfish here, just asking how did 15 years go by so fast?
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Jul 22, 2023 19:41
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I can only imagine the sort of hand gestures a tornado in Italy has to deal with
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Jul 22, 2023 19:45
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hahahaha
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Jul 22, 2023 19:46
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actionjackson posted:hahahaha that's right.
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Jul 22, 2023 19:48
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:I can only imagine the sort of hand gestures a tornado in Italy has to deal with lmfao
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Jul 22, 2023 19:49
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Unless posted:I worry that folks confuse disempowerment and escapism with acceptance Yes. They also will not relinquish that power. When it is threatened they will straight up throw away any and all pretenses of nice, take off the mask, and do what deeds are required to secure it for another hundred years.
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Jul 22, 2023 19:55
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No one holding the lions share of guilt will see any consequences for destroying the world. Radical acceptance.
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Jul 22, 2023 19:56
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RandomBlue posted:that's right. Dude rocked. Also, he invented the Electron Capture Detector I use daily in gas chromatography. Pretty sure his anti-RE stance was from it being a sticking plaster (Band Aid) on what is a sucking chest wound that is our industrial civ. I, too, have had the “if you don’t believe in God, why not rape and murder?” thing. Along with the climate doomer equivalent of asking why I don’t kill myself. To paraphrase Private Joker: the dead only know one thing: it is better to be alive (and witness the content).
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Jul 22, 2023 19:57
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Cold on a Cob posted:it isn't lost on me that people have asked me a similar question when my atheism comes up (though this one is more from assholes online, not irl) - "if you don't fear god why do you live a moral life?" like wtf?! If you don't fear being tortured for all eternity, how are you not screwing over every person you meet for your own benefit???
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Jul 22, 2023 19:58
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drat  quote:Four people are missing after a severe weather event in Nova Scotia where some areas reportedly received over 200 millimetres of rain.
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Jul 22, 2023 20:03
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Setec_Astronomy posted:Oh I guess I'll stop allowing that then, thanks for the heads up ‘bout fkin’ time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71s-T8oUTQs
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Jul 22, 2023 20:12
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A Bad King posted:Yes. They also will not relinquish that power. When it is threatened they will straight up throw away any and all pretenses of nice, take off the mask, and do what deeds are required to secure it for another hundred years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BhMxqP3lww
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Jul 22, 2023 20:16
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Cold on a Cob posted:it isn't lost on me that people have asked me a similar question when my atheism comes up (though this one is more from assholes online, not irl) - "if you don't fear god why do you live a moral life?" like wtf?! I never hear the question asked the opposite way to Christian Conservatives "if you do fear God and you do think that there are eternal consequences for your actions in this life, why are you OK with taking medical care from poor people, throwing babies in cages when their parents bring them across an arbitrary manmade line, and in Texas anyway taking away water breaks for workers toiling outdoors in deadly heat?" They are so pro life, but not for people who are already alive.
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Jul 22, 2023 20:17
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Get a load of Rhodes: Greece fires: Thousands flee homes and hotels on Rhodes as fires spread https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66279520
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Jul 22, 2023 20:17
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denial anger bargaining depression Lmao
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Jul 22, 2023 20:19
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:Get a load of Rhodes: Greece fires: Thousands flee homes and hotels on Rhodes as fires spread https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66279520 Guess all those scholars weren't so smart after all!
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Jul 22, 2023 20:19
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:Get a load of Rhodes: Greece fires: Thousands flee homes and hotels on Rhodes as fires spread https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66279520 hmm it was very pleasant there only a few weeks ago
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