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Jul 23, 2023 21:03
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I am not saying it makes it at all likely, because if nothing else how do you convince your troops that attacking a NATO country is anything but suicide, but I guess triggering Article 5 with troops you then claim are totally not yours and then being able to say perfidious Wagner lost the whole war for Russia could be a way out, sort of, kind of
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Jul 23, 2023 21:25
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MrQwerty posted:Article 5'ing over some dead chickens is definitely stupid enough to be plausible in this timeline 66 million years ago: end of the world when a bunch of dinosaurs got wiped in an explosion 2023 AD: end of the world when a bunch of dinosaurs get wiped in an explosion.
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Jul 23, 2023 21:35
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He's not going to attack Poland whilst his army has their collective dicks stuck in a Ukrainian woodchipper. Its yet more clumsy attempts to encourage certain narratives to develop in the West, specifically among those of anxious dispositions (Willos, pre-2022 Germans, etc) to start thinking "Whelp, we gave Ukraine a chance but its counteroffensive failed, now is the time to sit down and iron out a peace deal before things start escalating - we can already see signs that it might!". And for those saying that "But people thought he wouldn't attack Ukraine either!" - yeah, but Russia spent many many months building up its forces there, to attack a much weaker opponent than the combined forces of NATO. If they continue to massively build up forces in Poland over several months (and lol good luck doing that when fighting an active war in Ukraine) then we can revisit their motives. But at the moment its pure theatre/infowar.
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Jul 23, 2023 21:46
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Normally I'd just say it's hot air for an internal audience but I have to believe at this point the Russian federation really is stupid enough to attack into Poland. i sorta get the logic because its basicaly a dumber version of Imperial Japans plan with pearl harbor and the strikes against UK/etc. they plan is "ok we invade poland a take a much as we can and hold it hostage and then force the homo nazis IMPs of the NATO to pull all support of ukraine then try to win a good peace".
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Jul 23, 2023 21:48
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the strike against pearl harbor made a ton of sense strategically, but the japanese were working on bad intel. the point was to catch the Enterprise or another carrier in port and sink her. the loss of a strategic asset like that would've seriously changed the tenor of the war in the pacific and given them a ton more momentum in forcing the US to stay in its own hemisphere. there weren't many illusions among tojo's in-crowd over what was gonna happen when the US eventually got around to entering the war. unfortunately for the japanese, all 3 carriers were out on maneuvers and the consolation prize of a couple sunk battlewagons turned out to be nowhere near enough to hamstring the US response, especially after it turned out the Enterprise herself was so goddamn tough that she got the nickname "gray ghost" among the IJN. they beat the tar out of her like 3-4 times and she kept loving coming back. by comparison, there's exactly 0 chance that any incursion into poland would hamstring any strategic response from anyone, even if wagner somehow rolled up and took warsaw.
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Jul 23, 2023 21:56
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Ronwayne posted:66 million years ago: end of the world when a bunch of dinosaurs got wiped in an explosion lol
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Jul 23, 2023 22:05
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steinrokkan posted:Yes, my sources are confirming the nukes are launching at dawn Mushrooms in the Morning Wood
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Jul 23, 2023 22:15
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spankmeister posted:That church had nazi tattoos That church had nazi tattoos and took pictures of itself playing with kittens.
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Jul 23, 2023 22:16
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Just seems a waste of time and energy to get worked up over propaganda and maybes. Save it for when things definitely happen since we're all just posters on a message board.
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Jul 23, 2023 22:26
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Tigey posted:He's not going to attack Poland whilst his army has their collective dicks stuck in a Ukrainian woodchipper. tbf even Willo called bullshit on this one.
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Jul 23, 2023 22:32
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MrQwerty posted:lol I hope I'm not in a timeline so stupid we start a nuclear war at the hen house.
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Jul 23, 2023 22:53
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I feel like you gotta say Wagner is doing *something* useful. Can't be that puccir's "best" troops are going to sit out the end of the war! No no they're holding the line against the Winged Hussars!
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Jul 23, 2023 22:55
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Cuckoo coop coup.
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Jul 23, 2023 22:56
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The polish army is uh, well equipped, and unmatched in its artillery doctrine. While it's a small 200,000 man force they are not to be taken lightly. Wagner at it's height sat at 76,000 soldiers. Now it's closer to what, 25,000?
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Jul 23, 2023 23:12
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tiaz posted:THIS CONTRACT IS SEALED This needs animation. So badly. I love it WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:The polish army is uh, well equipped, and unmatched in its artillery doctrine. While it's a small 200,000 man force they are not to be taken lightly. And is even more undersupplied now than it was when it was a Russian asset.
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Jul 23, 2023 23:13
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Yeah I watched a few Wagner convoys rolling through and they had zero heavy equipment or armored vehicles at all. It was all Scooby Doo vans.
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Jul 23, 2023 23:16
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Yeah this can't be anything more than just saber rattling Because it would be the most incredibly stupid thing in the world for Russia to do if they tried
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Jul 23, 2023 23:25
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Runa posted:Yeah this can't be anything more than just saber rattling They would absolutely get rolled as soon as they crossed Poland's border. And I have no doubt they know that.
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Jul 23, 2023 23:25
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CommieGIR posted:They would absolutely get rolled as soon as they crossed Poland's border. And I have no doubt they know that. rolled is a very light way of putting it
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Jul 23, 2023 23:31
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CommieGIR posted:They would absolutely get rolled as soon as they crossed Poland's border. And I have no doubt they know that. love a good understatement
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Jul 23, 2023 23:33
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MrQwerty posted:rolled is a very light way of putting it It would be the end of the world as we know it
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Jul 23, 2023 23:35
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redshirt posted:It would be the end of the world as we know it Yeah, but I feel fine
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Jul 23, 2023 23:42
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wrong thread
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Jul 24, 2023 00:05
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Ronwayne posted:I hope I'm not in a timeline so stupid we start a nuclear war at the hen house. Does that mean we live in the Skyrim timeline?
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Jul 24, 2023 00:17
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Drone_Fragger posted:Reminder that russia was opposed to the space shuttle, and built their own, because they thought the states real plan was to fill it with nukes and then suicide bomb the kremlin with it. To be fair to them, the reason they thought that was that they had their own rocket scientists go over the published Shuttle materials, and they told them that Shuttle will never be effective at its stated goals and that it will be a worse launcher than the rockets it replaces. Then they assumed this meant that it had to have nefarious secret goals. Jokes on them, NASA (and the congress, and the AF) just hosed up.
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Jul 24, 2023 01:28
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The shuttle had nefarious purposes involving in orbit maintenance on spy satellites, but ended up just doing that with the hubble.
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Jul 24, 2023 01:43
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Lammasu posted:Does that mean we live in the Skyrim timeline? The Russophobic epithet "Chicken Chaser" is from an entirely different timeline.
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Jul 24, 2023 01:49
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Tunicate posted:The shuttle had nefarious purposes involving in orbit maintenance on spy satellites, but ended up just doing that with the hubble. The shuttle serviced and recovered a whole bunch of satellites. The whole point was to have something with a toolset and trunk space onboard to do poo poo the conventional rockets didn't - and it did that fine. It wasn't meant to be a more efficient way to put people or satellite payloads into orbit.
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Jul 24, 2023 01:50
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the popes toes posted:The Russophobic epithet "Chicken Chaser" is from an entirely different timeline. They call him Czar.
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Jul 24, 2023 01:51
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Shinjobi posted:Just seems a waste of time and energy to get worked up over propaganda and maybes. Save it for when things definitely happen since we're all just posters on a message board. I dont think anyone in the thread expects it to happen, were just loling at how much of a shitshow it would be if it did happen
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Jul 24, 2023 02:02
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Shinjobi posted:Just seems a waste of time and energy to get worked up over propaganda and maybes. Save it for when things definitely happen since we're all just posters on a message board. Same as it ever was.
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Jul 24, 2023 02:09
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Tuna-Fish posted:To be fair to them, the reason they thought that was that they had their own rocket scientists go over the published Shuttle materials, and they told them that Shuttle will never be effective at its stated goals and that it will be a worse launcher than the rockets it replaces. Then they assumed this meant that it had to have nefarious secret goals. Jokes on them, NASA (and the congress, and the AF) just hosed up. They realized it was dumb but still attempted to build their own hoping to figure out it's secret purpose after constructing it? lol
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Jul 24, 2023 02:19
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tiaz posted:THIS CONTRACT IS SEALED tiaz posted:I don't think I could halve the US flag and keep it legible. Honestly I'm not great shakes at pixel touching myself, the machine did the resize operation. Here's a try at replacing the US flag with a UA one but we probably want a real deal creative convention poster for this/adding dustclouds for a hauling-rear end animation These are awesome. If the thread comes to a consensus I'll.buy whichever
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Jul 24, 2023 02:20
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weg posted:They realized it was dumb but still attempted to build their own hoping to figure out it's secret purpose after constructing it? They thought it might be a nuclear space bomber kind of thing. quote:The report concluded that an American space shuttle, launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California and flying from south to north over the Soviet Union, could make a “dive” in its orbit as it passed over Moscow, and release a nuclear weapon. This technique would enable a weapon to be deployed from the shuttle and detonate over Moscow 200 seconds later, far faster than an American submarine-launched ballistic missile could accomplish the same task. This nuclear dive-bombing would presumably be part of a knockout punch to destroy the Soviet command and control network before the USSR could launch a counter-strike.
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Jul 24, 2023 02:33
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redshirt posted:Best thing to do when your invasion is failing? Open up a second front against the most powerful military alliance. I take it you’ve never heard of the IJA and IJN. So I expect Putin not to have heard of them either. Uh oh.
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Jul 24, 2023 03:47
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How's this? 
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Jul 24, 2023 05:29
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Jul 24, 2023 05:33
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Jul 24, 2023 05:36
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EasilyConfused posted:tbf even Willo called bullshit on this one. Jesus Christ well that settles it then
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Jul 24, 2023 05:39
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