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No Safe Word posted:all powder blue jerseys own, the Phillies ones do too  e: oh also these suck too https://twitter.com/Titans/status/1683469584601612289 zoux fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Jul 24, 2023 |
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I did not expect to read the name Felipe Vasquez in a baseball press release ever again. Why even put that in there?
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Why has this trade deadline just been a couple of really bad relievers so far? C'mon MLB, do something!
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Angels....the dumbest franchise https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1683511608427913220?s=20 India would be a great pickup imo https://twitter.com/TalkinBaseball_/status/1683464587083907073?s=20
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Trading Ohtani's the smart move for Anaheim. It's the second biggest L of all-time but the biggest is losing him in free agency for nothing.
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Trading your best player while still realistically having a decent chance to make the playoffs is big loser energy/mindset. Goodbye fanbase
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You might as well get something for him, since he’s sure as hell not coming back
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live with fruit posted:Trading Ohtani's the smart move for Anaheim. It's the second biggest L of all-time but the biggest is losing him in free agency for nothing. I am feeling triggered
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Kirios posted:Why has this trade deadline just been a couple of really bad relievers so far? supposedly teams are waiting to see what happens with Ohtani but once we get to the weekend it will probably pick up regardless.
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WE ARE NOT GOING TO TRADE HIM GOD drat IT
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MrMidnight posted:Angels....the dumbest franchise Isn't he in his prime?? Why is a team that is ahead of schedule trying to move guys like this?
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Why don't they just offer him a 10 yr 600m deal and 15% ownership of the franchise? Seems simple.
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Mike_V posted:Isn't he in his prime?? Why is a team that is ahead of schedule trying to move guys like this? Because he's not very good.
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The Reds saying India is on the block is baffling to me 
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Everyone is having too much fun, management knows this will help stop that
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kinda bummed to lose Vodnik on a reliever rental, maybe mostly because of name tool, but also he’s been solid and looked like he was on an arc to the majors, and that probably gets derailed in the Rockies system. Pierce Johnson seems like he might do fine away from Coors though and there were clearly some arms they’ve been hesitant to rely on despite a ton of injuries so why not shuffle things up.
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The Reds have EDLC, McLain, Steer, and CES already up with Noelvi Marte and Jose Barrero cooking in AAA. I think if they can get a premium SP for India it makes sense. Just not sure the return would be there to make it make sense.
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zoux posted:e: oh also these suck too  Those are incredibly good
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I too would love to turn an average-ish 3B who has been playing out of position at 2B into a premium young starter for my team.
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Bregor posted:The Reds have EDLC, McLain, Steer, and CES already up with Noelvi Marte and Jose Barrero cooking in AAA. I think if they can get a premium SP for India it makes sense. Just not sure the return would be there to make it make sense. I think you nailed. it. They are loaded with infielders. That's partly why Steer was playing first base while Votto was out. If the Reds didn't move India (maybe even if they did?), I wouldn't be surprised if they traded Senzel. Not that there's anything great about Senzel, but he's probably a non-tender candidate for them otherwise and maybe there are teams who'd like a cheap right-handed utility player.
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MrMidnight posted:Trading your best player while still realistically having a decent chance to make the playoffs is big loser energy/mindset. Goodbye fanbase 14% odds according to FanGraphs and 9% according to Baseball Reference. I don't think "realistically" is the word. And it's not like the fanbase doesn't know the team sucks. Either way, they're stuck with a declining Trout and one of the worst FA signings of all-time in Rendon. The best case scenario might be the shame of losing Ohtani snapping something in Moreno's brain.
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It is very funny that Arte was about to cash out this winter and let this Ohtani saga be a headache for the next owner, but instead changed his mind and signed up for one last no-win scenario of his own making.
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Bregor posted:The Reds have EDLC, McLain, Steer, and CES already up with Noelvi Marte and Jose Barrero cooking in AAA. I think if they can get a premium SP for India it makes sense. Just not sure the return would be there to make it make sense. I can see why they might want to trade India for some pitching
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maffew buildings posted:Why don't they just offer him a 10 yr 600m deal and 15% ownership of the franchise? Seems simple. Cut him in on the concessions too. Just loving do whatever is necessary
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I would be so bummed if I was a Reds fan and they traded India. I mean, there’s a lot to be excited about with the team but he rules. He’s such a good piece for them in so many ways.
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I bet Manfred would veto any player contract that includes an ownership stake. They definitely don’t want to set any kind of worker-ownership precedent.
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tadashi posted:I think you nailed. it. They are loaded with infielders. That's partly why Steer was playing first base while Votto was out. I don’t think Senzel would get much of anything on the market, especially not starting pitching. At least he can play OF, I saw some twitter news about CES or Steer trying a corner OF spot as well but that doesn’t seem like a long term solution.
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The Angels valuation has increased by at least 10x in the 20 years of Arte’s incompetence at the helm. Even a small minority stake would be an absolute boon for a player throughout their retirement.
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bawfuls posted:The Angels valuation has increased by at least 10x in the 20 years of Arte’s incompetence at the helm. Even a small minority stake would be an absolute boon for a player throughout their retirement. Ohtani's making $70M this year and is probably going to sign a $600M contract. I think he'll be alright.
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India only league average bat the last couple years per wRC+, that’s a little surprising to me Still tough to trade him when the team is actually competing
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I hear ya but where he is going to play realistically? He's not great defensively and the Reds have a superior option in all the positions he could play. He's the perfect person to trade away to get some solid value in return for them.
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MrMidnight posted:Trading your best player while still realistically having a decent chance to make the playoffs is big loser energy/mindset. Goodbye fanbase I've already sized out a 1993 Piazza jersey and contacted the Dodgers season ticket office. I have no honor pal.
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Giving $500+ million to one player is insane and whatever team does it will be crippled by the back half of that contract.
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AndrewP posted:India only league average bat the last couple years per wRC+, that’s a little surprising to me Not if they can get Cease or one of the M's' young pitchers back. The Pussy Boss posted:Giving $500+ million to one player is insane and whatever team does it will be crippled by the back half of that contract. Ohtani brings in more money for the Angels than they pay him.
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The Pussy Boss posted:Giving $500+ million to one player is insane and whatever team does it will be crippled by the back half of that contract. I said it before but just front load it like crazy. 80 million year on down to like 40 at the end
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AndrewP posted:India only league average bat the last couple years per wRC+, that’s a little surprising to me He's not great defensively, either, and they have a ton of guys who are younger and may potentially be better. Plus, Newman is above replacement level quality, I think. It makes sense to try and deal him for a starter, which would make a world of difference for them. Also, I didn't realize Friedl had been that good.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:I said it before but just front load it like crazy. 80 million year on down to like 40 at the end is it possible to structure it like 90m year 1, 10m year 2, 90m year 3, etc etc so you can reset the tax every year
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