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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

hey those almost killed nicholas cage

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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
an elegant soap on a rope configuration

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Raskolnikov38 posted:

the german reactor design was so dumb lol



Are you dissing the Power Rangers?

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

"just hang some cubes on a string, the fuhrer won't know the difference"

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



The most important knowledge the Soviets needed for their atom bomb project was details on how to set up the industrial program needed to purify large amounts of plutonium. Luckily, that was all published by the US in the Smyth Report.

i say swears online posted:

what's still classified anyway? what about making an atomic bomb today isn't on wikipedia? I remember reading Clancy's sum of all fears as a kid and there's a disclaimer at the end that he purposely got some details wrong to discourage terrorists

You can make a much more efficient atom bomb by injecting tritium into the plutonium core at the right moment. The details of that process are still classified. A terrorist could easily make a Hiroshima bomb with a $1000 gift certificate for Home Depot and 200 pounds of uranium-235 ingots, but the uranium is the hard part. Plutonium bombs are much cheaper than uranium bombs.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Chamale posted:



You can make a much more efficient atom bomb by injecting tritium into the plutonium core at the right moment. The details of that process are still classified. A terrorist could easily make a Hiroshima bomb with a $1000 gift certificate for Home Depot and 200 pounds of uranium-235 ingots, but the uranium is the hard part. Plutonium bombs are much cheaper than uranium bombs.

A bit of an oversimplification. The precision required to collide two halves of a core together in a properly aligned way requires at least a somewhat precise engineering job. And trial and error is no replacement.

The way I've heard it put is "a lone nut putting together an atom bomb is a myth, but a typical college faculty would have no trouble"

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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incensed engineer: EXCUSE ME but i had to go to school for a long time to efficiently kill millions of people. you cant just get some rear end in a top hat off the street for this!!

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

remembering that the chinese nuclear program (and its space program too) got a head start since the US deported Qian Xuesen because they were too racist

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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yellowcar posted:

remembering that the chinese nuclear program (and its space program too) got a head start since the US deported Qian Xuesen because they were too racist

they deported him for being a communist

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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wait, if memory serves they didnt even deport him. he tried to leave and they detained him for years

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:

Western media reporting China has officially made “gay” illegal or whatever

so what's going on here? are they closing cia outlets or what

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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gay chinese....

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

eventually he was put under house arrest and then deported

he applied for naturalization at first but that didn't go anywhere then the feds started to accuse him of being a communist. he only wanted to leave because he wanted no part in helping the US build nukes if they were gonna be used on china

Eminent DNS
May 28, 2007

I would make the same principled stand

Eminent DNS
May 28, 2007

also wasn't a big part of the insight provided by german scientists more about rocketry and missile delivery systems than actual nuclear bomb engineering?

Maybe it happened in different phases like the first wave of scientists from germany had one focus and the ones scopped up after the war had another focus or something, I might have mixed them up

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
Didn't China legalize being gay like almost a decade before the US did?

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Eminent DNS posted:

also wasn't a big part of the insight provided by german scientists more about rocketry and missile delivery systems than actual nuclear bomb engineering?

Maybe it happened in different phases like the first wave of scientists from germany had one focus and the ones scopped up after the war had another focus or something, I might have mixed them up

Two German-Jewish physicists, Otto Frisch and Rudolf Peierls, were the ones who proved in 1940 that a nuclear bomb could be made by purifying uranium-235, making it much more feasible than previously thought. Because they were German, they weren't allowed to work on radar, so they worked on the atom bomb project which had been a lower priority until that discovery.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

ikanreed posted:

A bit of an oversimplification. The precision required to collide two halves of a core together in a properly aligned way requires at least a somewhat precise engineering job. And trial and error is no replacement.

The way I've heard it put is "a lone nut putting together an atom bomb is a myth, but a typical college faculty would have no trouble"
in the tom clancy book I mentioned earlier the lone nut was an optometrist who repurposed a lens grinding machine to make perfect spheres iirc

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
Tom Clancy has about as much bearing on reality as star wars.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

croup coughfield posted:

gay chinese....

(rhymes with "gay talese")

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
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never gonna bend and im never gonna break
everybody fronts everybody fakes
never gonna stop and im never gonna stay
here with the gay chinese

Eminent DNS
May 28, 2007

Chamale posted:

Two German-Jewish physicists, Otto Frisch and Rudolf Peierls, were the ones who proved in 1940 that a nuclear bomb could be made by purifying uranium-235, making it much more feasible than previously thought. Because they were German, they weren't allowed to work on radar, so they worked on the atom bomb project which had been a lower priority until that discovery.

i hope they were allowed to work on radar one day...

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

croup coughfield posted:

wait, if memory serves they didnt even deport him. he tried to leave and they detained him for years

I double checked on it. China had to trade him with more than 10 captured US pilots from the Korean war.

This was worse than Oppenheimer's brother, who admitted he was a communist party member, lost his university job and became a cattle rancher.

Neither the US nor Nazi Germany trusted immigrants and left leaning scientists, but the US was cunning enough to use the scientist to get the bomb before they spit them out

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

croup coughfield posted:

gay chinese....

mr mullen hello

Eminent DNS
May 28, 2007

Megamissen posted:

mr mullen hello

Excuse me, that's Chairman of the Central Military Commission of the Communist Party of China Nick Mullen

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

knowing that the term for gay and comrade are the same really puts the revolution in a new light

edgar snow: so all these men here are comrades?
mao: hehehe you could say that

DiscountDildos
Nov 8, 2017

Truga posted:

so what's going on here? are they closing cia outlets or what

The only mention I've seen about something like this was from this account which I wouldn't take at face value

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1683378516031868929?s=20

Regardless, I thought China was already pretty "Don't Say Gay" when it came to media stuff

They also posted this tweet which I hadn't seen yet but I'm almost 100% sure gay couples haven't been able to adopt children in China ever???

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1683326808232697856?s=20

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
I was listening to a Taiwanese analyst and this is supposed to be a big deal.

https://twitter.com/GUnderground_TV/status/1682329881663635456?t=p9biyk4tjP7YmLe8NC8y6w&s=19

Maybe this is the reason Brics countries didn't want Macron to be there.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

stephenthinkpad posted:

I was listening to a Taiwanese analyst and this is supposed to be a big deal.

https://twitter.com/GUnderground_TV/status/1682329881663635456?t=p9biyk4tjP7YmLe8NC8y6w&s=19

Maybe this is the reason Brics countries didn't want Macron to be there.

oh my god are we really doing the exact same mistake of bretton woods again

AbysmalPeptoBismol
Feb 5, 2016

Nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea!

Raskolnikov38 posted:

oh my god are we really doing the exact same mistake of bretton woods again

First as tragedy, second as farce

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Raskolnikov38 posted:

oh my god are we really doing the exact same mistake of bretton woods again

difference is the cpc is all about capital controls and regional currencies for clearing so this seems more like bancor that never was

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
I think using gold instead of oil or whatever China has to back the new currency will get India on board. India has a lot of gold stacked in the Hindu temples.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
It is hard to see how Bretton woods was at all bad for the US either and Bancor was never implemented.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Ardennes posted:

It is hard to see how Bretton woods was at all bad for the US either and Bancor was never implemented.

bretton woods and the post period were good for the US but the fundamental instability in the whole system was that the US had to print more dollars than it could ever possibly cover with gold

bancor gets poorly covered outside of specialist texts but it was really never more than a currency of account in Keynes' plan which was a complicated mess where national accounts could use it for clearing purposes instead of having to use national currencies (which was to be to the dollar strapped UK's benefit because now they could settle trades in bancor rather than having to somehow procure dollars)

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

listening to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TINI6XrrBXk

the two hosts go over the history of the dollar dominance and how it came to be post-WW2 and then its failings and now current decline.

they made a passing mention that if should there be any shared trading currency between brics nations, it might be something like a commodity backed currency however that's gonna work

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/TripInChina/status/1683043020688576512

what a wild way to cut trees ngl

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
It seems like a real problem with overshooting or accidentally blinding someone though hitting a reflective surface.


Raskolnikov38 posted:

bretton woods and the post period were good for the US but the fundamental instability in the whole system was that the US had to print more dollars than it could ever possibly cover with gold

bancor gets poorly covered outside of specialist texts but it was really never more than a currency of account in Keynes' plan which was a complicated mess where national accounts could use it for clearing purposes instead of having to use national currencies (which was to be to the dollar strapped UK's benefit because now they could settle trades in bancor rather than having to somehow procure dollars)


A fiat dollar wasn’t exactly a disaster either for the US, I would say the end of history was a bigger deal.

As for a Bancor, it could work, it just you need strict limits on BRICOR supply and surplus/deficits between states. It is simply that the US was so strong after the war they could just force everyone to use USDs, and China really doesn’t seem interested in forcing the RMB for a pretty wide variety of reasons.

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Raskolnikov38 posted:

bretton woods and the post period were good for the US but the fundamental instability in the whole system was that the US had to print more dollars than it could ever possibly cover with gold

our accounts were balanced except for the expenditure on Vietnam

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Raskolnikov38 posted:

bretton woods and the post period were good for the US but the fundamental instability in the whole system was that the US had to print more dollars than it could ever possibly cover with gold

how is it bad for the US that they got like 50 years of free poo poo

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stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

crepeface posted:

how is it bad for the US that they got like 50 years of free poo poo

Printing greenbacks? Of course it is good for the US. That's why the rest of the world wants a different trade currency.

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