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Yeah, I don't know if making everything e-bikes was necessary, that said, I know there are cities where e-scooters have taken off and if you want to get rid of cars you have to accept some compromises.
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The rental scooters and bikes in San Juan PR were cool because you couldn't deactivate them unless they were in a designated spot, and there are areas of the city where they won't work. So you personally pay if you don't use them responsibly. The locals were also really helpful by aggressively honking at us when we strayed from the allowed area. Thanks!!
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, I don't know if making everything e-bikes was necessary, that said, I know there are cities where e-scooters have taken off and if you want to get rid of cars you have to accept some compromises. are you the pdx goon? I was disappointed to learn that biketown went all electric but im curious as to how they are
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Fitzy Fitz posted:The rental scooters and bikes in San Juan PR were cool because you couldn't deactivate them unless they were in a designated spot, and there are areas of the city where they won't work. So you personally pay if you don't use them responsibly. The locals were also really helpful by aggressively honking at us when we strayed from the allowed area. Thanks!! same here. you also have to wear a bike helmet or it's a $200 fine.
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Zodium posted:same here. you also have to wear a bike helmet or it's a $200 fine. how the hell is a tourist going to have a helmet for a rental?
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Jul 24, 2023 23:20
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Zodium posted:same here. you also have to wear a bike helmet or it's a $200 fine.
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:how the hell is a tourist going to have a helmet for a rental? they're not, we just can't legally make them illegal. it's very danish. we also killed uber by requiring app taxis to have taxi equipment.
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Zodium posted:they're not, we just can't legally make them illegal. it's very danish. we also killed uber by requiring app taxis to have taxi equipment. what's taxi equipment? Erdogan banned Uber. Erdogan ftw
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mawarannahr posted:what's taxi equipment? pressure sensors in the seats and other stuff I forget you won't have unless you're a taxi company. we can't legally ban them because of the EU so we do this instead.
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sounds like we need to abolish the EU then gross American-made imperial neoliberal project
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e-scooters own and I plan to buy one
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The Maroon Hawk posted:e-scooters own and I plan to buy one people seem to get hurt using them even without cars involved. no thanks.
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BonHair posted:Denied. I will not go back to wearing non-lycra ever again. You don't have to wear Lycra to ride bikes fast. You GET to wear Lycra while riding bikes fast.
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Jul 25, 2023 00:14
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mawarannahr posted:people seem to get hurt using them even without cars involved. no thanks. Are they inherently more dangerous than bikes though, or is this because there's little infrastructure or knowledge on how to use them?
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Jul 25, 2023 00:23
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Are they inherently more dangerous than bikes though, or is this because there's little infrastructure or knowledge on how to use them? people on rental scooters bombing hills with no helmet is dangerous car or no, at least one person died last year that way and I've seen people eat it in weird ways going over a tree root or some poo poo. doesn't seem like a stable vehicle. destroy cars https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7256685568585665834
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Probably less space than a couple of parked cars though, right? The annoying thing to me is that everything gets shoved into walking/biking space rather than the street. Honestly vast swaths if metropolitan areas should just be off limits to passenger cars. If you can't get around a city with manifold methods of transportation without your death box then you shouldn't be there.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Are they inherently more dangerous than bikes though, or is this because there's little infrastructure or knowledge on how to use them? in some ways it's easier in others it's more challenging. Smaller wheels are going to have a smaller contact patch so less traction and they can get knocked around more easily. Unlike bikes it really feels like the whole thing falls over immediately if you let go for even a moment. in the pros column i would say balancing is a bit more intuitive for amateurs and they are very light/ez to travel with
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I rode an electric scooter that my buddy bought and apparently it can go over 40mph? it felt very dangerous but we were riding it in an enclosed loop so it was fun to let it rip. if I owned one I'd probably hurt myself yeah.
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they're generally not supposed to be able to go over 20mph, legally, but a ton of them can go way over that because no one cares to enforce the law
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something I've learned with experience is that you don't really need to be moving very fast to still reach your destination faster than a car would. even 10 kph is plenty on a bike, as a commute
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fermun posted:they're generally not supposed to be able to go over 20mph, legally, but a ton of them can go way over that because no one cares to enforce the law laws are for poor people so if you get caught going over 20mph you will get a ticket, but the big rich companies making them able to go that fast are fine, don't bother them
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Jul 25, 2023 04:57
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fermun posted:no one cares to enforce the law Many such cases
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Fitzy Fitz posted:and if you think that's bad, check this out: https://goo.gl/maps/72qwAz6mKtBWucD26 everywhere in the atlanta suburbs looks like this too.
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Jul 25, 2023 06:00
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we should all be riding folding scooters
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Milo and POTUS posted:we should all be riding folding scooters That's not the future, this is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r0TPD5NUQ0
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Jul 25, 2023 06:46
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when you’ve logged 1,000 hours in some fantasy rpg and decided people actually would want to buy boots of swiftness that let them move some XX% faster than normal
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Twerk from Home posted:Then my city made it illegal for ebikes to be on the greenways / bike paths, and they demolished all of the bike share stations that were near parks or paths, gutting the network. What's left is expensive, and only located near places with zero bike infra. So is there anything even approaching a national definition of an ebike on a US federal level? Or is it all on the state level to decide when a powered bicycle becomes a moped/motorcycle?
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Groda posted:So is there anything even approaching a national definition of an ebike on a US federal level? Or is it all on the state level to decide when a powered bicycle becomes a moped/motorcycle? Yes there is. Class 1 2 and 3 ebikes. And they are pretty heavily regulated once the boomers who chair the state transportation committees get the idea into their head
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Groda posted:So is there anything even approaching a national definition of an ebike on a US federal level? Or is it all on the state level to decide when a powered bicycle becomes a moped/motorcycle? almost every state has accepted the california definitions for it. class 1: can go up to 20mph with electric-assist and faster if you pedal harder, but the electric-assist stops once it hits 20mph and also it has no throttle to just give power when you're not pedaling class 2: can go up to 20mph with electric-assist and faster if you pedal harder, but the electric-assist stops once it hits 20mph and it has a throttle to give power when you're not pedaling class 3: can go up to 28mph with electric-assist and faster if you pedal harder, but the electric-assist stops once it hits 28mph and if it has a throttle to give power when you're not pedaling, that throttle must stop providing power once the bike hits 20mph. a bicycle's class is defined as the class it is when it is shipped, so almost every ebike ships as a class 2 due to the fact that many states make it so a class 3 bike isn't allowed to have a throttle at all, but almost all class 3 ebikes do have a throttle, so they're shipped as a class 2 ebike and then the user can check with their local laws to see if they can change software settings to make it a class 3 with throttle. despite this being a very clear loophole, ebikes cost enough and have few enough actual factories set up to make them that every company seems to have settled only on the one loophole and nothing ever does electric assist above 28mph if it's trying to be an ebike instead of an electric moped/motorcycle
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eXXon posted:That's not the future, this is: i would try these actually. i just wouldnt pay for them
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eXXon posted:That's not the future, this is: it's like a group of tech bros sat around a conference room table and said, "What if Heelies, but way shittier?"
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now i think i will have time to ride my biek today
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mawarannahr posted:people seem to get hurt using them even without cars involved. no thanks. skill issue
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lobster shirt posted:now i think i will have time to ride my biek today hell yeaj
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Rad-daddio posted:it's like a group of tech bros sat around a conference room table and said, "What if Heelies, but way shittier?" They cost $1400 and have the following specs per the website: Top Speed: 7 mph Range: 5-7 mi Product Weight: 4.2 lbs each User Weight limit: 220 lbs (100kg) A pair of rollerskates will cost you like $50-150 and weigh much less and will make you healthier and look cooler
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lol 8 lb rollerskates
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Bring back rollerblades
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Milo and POTUS posted:Bring back rollerblades nobody every took them away! 
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