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aluminumonkey posted:So when they find out red bull is cheating, what part of the car is it going to be? Fuel system, moveable aero on the floor.... Using unlimited CFD and wind tunnel time but claiming it’s for cooling related purposes. Hang on, I’ve just been handed a note: “That is totally allowed and ReBull pinky swore so we trust them - The FIA”
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Jul 25, 2023 04:38
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EoRaptor posted:Using unlimited CFD and wind tunnel time but claiming it’s for cooling related purposes. I don’t understand how any of those limits are enforceable when teams own the facilities.
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Jul 25, 2023 04:42
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Rinkles posted:I don’t understand how any of those limits are enforceable when teams own the facilities. When they fill out the logbook they have to sign their name so it's impossible to cheat it 
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Jul 25, 2023 04:54
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EoRaptor posted:Using unlimited CFD and wind tunnel time but claiming it’s for cooling related purposes. you meant cooking, right?
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Jul 25, 2023 04:56
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Engineers being told no extra cfd time is like me telling you nerds not to pirate video games
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are "aeroelastic" components still against the rules? (i don't see how since every team has a front wing designed to change angle of attack under load) anyway i could see red bull doing some cheat-ish stuff around coupling the aero and suspension systems together. skirting the lines of active aero? anything aero or similar would have to be something hard to see if no one's made a big deal about it this far into the season either that or yeah cheating on cfd/tunnel time Or maybe they just told max to hold the throttle pedal down more often
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Jul 25, 2023 05:14
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Theyre flexing the turbo plenum
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It’s not just one cheat it’s all of it at the same time btw
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Jul 25, 2023 05:15
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God loving drat it This is cruel
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EoRaptor posted:Using unlimited CFD and wind tunnel time but claiming it’s for cooling related purposes. they are probably cheating in other ways too!
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ethanol posted:It’s not just one cheat it’s all of it at the same time btw
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Jul 25, 2023 08:13
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Red Bull are going to put a £3m line item on their accounts for toilet paper and it turns out the factory has been wiping with carbon fibre sheets all year
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Jul 25, 2023 09:07
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Heineken ads are the absolute loving worst. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj1opl7-Ros
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Jul 25, 2023 10:28
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Love the implication Max has friends
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Mokotow posted:Love the implication Max has friends at least one 
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the milk machine posted:are "aeroelastic" components still against the rules? (i don't see how since every team has a front wing designed to change angle of attack under load) Wings can flex X millimeters at Y point, so every competent team has wings that flex exactly X at Y. The testing methodology changed from having a lad stand on it in the pits to measure deflection with 100kg on it to the scrutineering team actually inspecting nose cam footage to see what happens under real world aero load with the car moving around (which is how everybody except the FIA was able to tell stuff was moving further than it should to begin with), sometimes you see cars with little marker stickers on the nose which they use as reference points for this.
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Jul 25, 2023 10:58
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Rinkles posted:I don’t understand how any of those limits are enforceable when teams own the facilities. It’s pretty obvious when a wind tunnel is running and you can just have a webcam pointing at it?
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Jul 25, 2023 12:32
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smackfu posted:It’s pretty obvious when a wind tunnel is running and you can just have a webcam pointing at it? Is it running over 5m/s? 15m/s? How long was it stopped for? Did you turn the fan on too quickly? Off too quickly? Did you change the bodywork at the wrong time? Do you have active systems for adjusting bodywork whilst the fan is running? Did you run over midnight? Etc etc etc You'll get picked up on an audit if you do anything daft.
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Rinkles posted:I don’t understand how any of those limits are enforceable when teams own the facilities. Totally not the issue. It's the grey area around resource allocation KTM went from being actively opposed to aero in MotoGP, having terrible/barely any aero on the bike to this year magically they jumped to having the one of the most sophisticated aero on the grid. Coincidentally it's an Austrian company sponsored by Red Bull. If you have a team that rotates between working on MotoGP aerodynamics half the time and then F1 the other half is it really fair that only 50% of the salary counts towards the budget cap? They're still working on aerodynamic concepts they can apply to the F1 car in the time they're not on the F1 project.
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Fun fact: The same also applies to Nico Hulkenberg!
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Arc Hammer posted:If they want to appeal to the US market they should advertise it like Nascar by doing compilations of all the horrific collisions with a badass guitar riff laid over top. I was at the gym today and they were playing some Nascar footage and it was surprisingly bloodthirsty in the promotional reels. Wonder if anyone has an excel spreadsheet of all the instances of physical violence between drivers
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Jul 25, 2023 19:13
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Every poster in this thread has, at the time of this message, also the same amount of points as Sargeant
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Jul 25, 2023 19:26
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:They should promote physical violence between the drivers too in NASCAR style, which makes Max the best driver in modern F1 as he’s the most recent driver to physically assault another driver. Does George crashing into Valtteri and then going up to him afterwards count
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Jul 25, 2023 19:34
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Arc Hammer posted:If they want to appeal to the US market they should advertise it like Nascar by doing compilations of all the horrific collisions with a badass guitar riff laid over top. I was at the gym today and they were playing some Nascar footage and it was surprisingly bloodthirsty in the promotional reels. You basically described the opening reel that plays before races on F1TV
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Jul 25, 2023 20:15
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:They should promote physical violence between the drivers too in NASCAR style, which makes Max the best driver in modern F1 as he’s the most recent driver to physically assault another driver. This is Danny Ric erasure! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaMrOsmjgfo
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Jul 25, 2023 20:30
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SlowBloke posted:Every poster in this thread has, at the time of this message, also the same amount of points as Sargeant Are you sure nobody in this thread is driving for an F1 team?
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Jul 25, 2023 20:41
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tony quidtana posted:Totally not the issue. It's the grey area around resource allocation I think this is actively being considered as so many manufacturers are doing similar things, especially with the resurgence of GTP/LMH in endurance racing.
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Jul 25, 2023 20:42
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FAUXTON posted:Are you sure nobody in this thread is driving for an F1 team? As if anyone in here has the brain capacity to even understand what the buttons on the wheel do
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Diet Crack posted:As if anyone in here has the brain capacity to even understand what the buttons on the wheel do Pff if I can master Shadow of the Colossus I can figure out a few buttons on an F1 car
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meowmeowmeowmeow posted:I think this is actively being considered as so many manufacturers are doing similar things, especially with the resurgence of GTP/LMH in endurance racing. I don't think it is actively being considered as so many manufacturers are doing similar things, especially with the resurgence of GTP/LMH in endurance racing that nobody cares about instead of pocketing the cash
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Diet Crack posted:As if anyone in here has the brain capacity to even understand what the buttons on the wheel do I know what they do on a Ferrari
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meowmeowmeowmeow posted:I think this is actively being considered as so many manufacturers are doing similar things, especially with the resurgence of GTP/LMH in endurance racing. What about when the lmh team is better than the f1 team? Aka 
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mama mia!
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Diet Crack posted:As if anyone in here has the brain capacity to even understand what the buttons on the wheel do I barely know what the buttons on the keyboard do.
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