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How much longer is Twitter going to last?
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Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Why I oughtta

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Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

Mercury_Storm posted:

Twitter used to be more popular in Japan before Musk took over, also the X symbol generally means "fail" or "do not want" over there too lol.

Something weird happened in Japan with Twitter last night. Loads and loads of people got suddenly suspended, for seemingly no reason (myself included). Trending last night were keywords like "account suspension" and "suspension festival" and "shadowban". Musk has managed to shake one of his biggest userbases that was largely ignorant of and didn't care about all the drama he has been causing.... until now.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

"X" was focus-tested and bombed but Musk was so wounded by focus groups he went ahead and did it anyway.
https://twitter.com/esjesjesj/status/1683523953094979584?s=20

Edit:
Business speculation believes he wiped out anywhere from $4 billion to $20 billion in brand value (Elon Musk laughs for a moment)

At last record, Twitter was worth $15 billion in May, about seven months after he bought the company for $44 billion.

Young Freud fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Jul 25, 2023

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
lmao, 'xvideos' is trending on twitter right now and it's hilarious.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1683954702151716864?s=20

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



With all of the dumb poo poo surrounding Twitter, I didn't notice that apparently Threads finally added a tab for posts of people you actually follow

https://www.ign.com/articles/threads-latest-update-finally-adds-a-followers-tab

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
I am still holding out on getting threads to see if it has any staying power. Apparently a huge chunk of the user base is no longer active.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
I'd like to think they missed their window, but they're not going to stop showing the signup link to FB/Insta users and it'll eventually get all the missing features, so it probably won't entirely die

The next big thing to watch out for is Bluesky allowing public signups; no one knows when that will be but it'll be a sign they feel it's a pretty healthy platform

Tree Reformat
Apr 2, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
I wonder if there's a big rift between people on Bluesky who want public signups so their clients followers can be with them for that sweet dopamine hit again, and people who want it to remain a Cool Kids Invite Only Clubhouse so chuds can't poo poo on their timelines anymore.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

haveblue posted:

I'd like to think they missed their window, but they're not going to stop showing the signup link to FB/Insta users and it'll eventually get all the missing features, so it probably won't entirely die

The interesting thing about that is that they probably misplayed their hand, but the stupid X rebrand was such an amazing unforced error that they might yet have a chance.

StumblyWumbly
Sep 12, 2007

Batmanticore!
On the other hand, maybe the X rebrand was to stop people from talking abut Threads?

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

haveblue posted:

I'd like to think they missed their window, but they're not going to stop showing the signup link to FB/Insta users and it'll eventually get all the missing features, so it probably won't entirely die
The window re-opens every time Twitter/"X" does some colossal fuckup which is a given at this point, but Threads launched it before it was ready and they're going to need to do another big push for attention when they actually have a ready-to-use app.

That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.

That Italian Guy posted:

Musk changes idea 10 times over the course of 10 days and forces rapid changes to the implementation;
Like loving clockwork.

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa

StumblyWumbly posted:

On the other hand, maybe the X rebrand was to stop people from talking abut Threads?

Elon Musk, like Donald Trump, is a loving moron who does things because he is - and I cannot stress this enough - an extremely unintelligent and impulsive person who is a slave to their most base instincts.

Some Republicans and other fascists may indeed do zany stuff to distract from things, but not them. They are neither that intelligent nor that self-aware.

Nothing about this was calculated or planned in advance, and nothing about it is driven by any factor beyond Musk's ridiculous obsession with the letter 'X' and his farcical desire to create the Western WeChat. There is still a non-zero chance things are back as they were last week before the end of this week, depending when and how he comes down from this manic episode or whatever drugs he's on at the moment.

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive

Tree Reformat posted:

I wonder if there's a big rift between people on Bluesky who want public signups so their clients followers can be with them for that sweet dopamine hit again, and people who want it to remain a Cool Kids Invite Only Clubhouse so chuds can't poo poo on their timelines anymore.

the main rift right now is people who do and don't understand dril

the phrase "bluesky elder" has been posted in sincerity

That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

.Nothing about this was calculated or planned in advance, and nothing about it is driven by any factor beyond Musk's ridiculous obsession with the letter 'X' and his farcical desire to create the Western WeChat. There is still a non-zero chance things are back as they were last week before the end of this week, depending when and how he comes down from this manic episode or whatever drugs he's on at the moment.
It was, however, long in the making:
https://twitter.com/garius/status/1683808576328937472

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1683808576328937472.html

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

Young Freud posted:

"X" was focus-tested and bombed but Musk was so wounded by focus groups he went ahead and did it anyway.
https://twitter.com/esjesjesj/status/1683523953094979584?s=20
X is Musk's Jerk Store.

"This is why I hate working with a large group! Everyone has their own little opinions, and it all gets homogenised, and you lose the whole edge of it! I'm going with X! X is the name! X!" [storms out]

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Professor Beetus posted:

lmao, 'xvideos' is trending on twitter right now and it's hilarious.

Why is this funny?

That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.

mawarannahr posted:

Why is this funny?
It's a porn site.

I guess the idea is that, since Musk wants to do an "everything-app", the various parts of it are going to be called X-something. So his Youtube competitor is going to face some naming-related challenges.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


This is the completely wrong regulatory environment to launch a new superapp (and has been since about 2016), Twitter is a bad platform for it anyway, and Musk is totally incompetent. Big things coming.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



This is incredible

https://twitter.com/ericliptonnyt/status/1684106327109382146?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA

“Pay me or I will let random people go hog wild with your brand”

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Great way to get brands to permanently leave your platform while issuing press releases about how it's an unmanageable cesspool

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1684206044900098048?s=20

quote:

Mashable interviewed Gene X. Hwang, co-founder of event photo company Orange Photography and the person who originally registered the @x handle on the platform more than 16 years ago, earlier that same day. Hwang told us at the time that he had yet to hear from Musk and company, but was hoping they could work something out when the inevitable happened.

quote:

Mashable interviewed Gene X. Hwang, co-founder of event photo company Orange Photography and the person who originally registered the @x handle on the platform more than 16 years ago, earlier that same day. Hwang told us at the time that he had yet to hear from Musk and company, but was hoping they could work something out when the inevitable happened.

quote:

However, the company did offer Hwang some non-financial compensation. "Some merch and to meet with management if I like," Hwang told me, referring to what the company did offer him in its email. It's unclear if the swag would be Twitter or X related. "Oh well - guess that's how it goes," Hwang said.

EasyEW
Mar 8, 2006

I've got my father's great big six-shooter with me 'n' if anybody in this woods wants to start somethin' just let 'em--but they DASSN'T.
Not to break up the X-a-thon, but a quick note that the Kids Online Safety Act, a classic bit of overreach which is the first step in forcing every platform being discussed here (and presumably this one) to card you at the door, is going to be discussed in committee on Thursday. It has 39 cosponsors in the Senate, so if one of those Senators is yours, you might want to get in touch with them. And if not, just check in anyway.

Apart from the issues the EFF bring up--like giving certain state attorneys general a new tool to hold the rest of the US hostage--the endgame is totally stable X/Twitter owner Elon Musk sitting on a government-mandated database of every user's real name, address and photo ID. A power I'm sure he'll use responsibly.

Jesus III
May 23, 2007

EasyEW posted:

Not to break up the X-a-thon, but a quick note that the Kids Online Safety Act, a classic bit of overreach which is the first step in forcing every platform being discussed here (and presumably this one) to card you at the door, is going to be discussed in committee on Thursday. It has 39 cosponsors in the Senate, so if one of those Senators is yours, you might want to get in touch with them. And if not, just check in anyway.

Apart from the issues the EFF bring up--like giving certain state attorneys general a new tool to hold the rest of the US hostage--the endgame is totally stable X/Twitter owner Elon Musk sitting on a government-mandated database of every user's real name, address and photo ID. A power I'm sure he'll use responsibly.

Sounds like a great time to stop using social media all together. I've been thinking of dropping Instagram and ending my social presence, sounds like a good time.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

That Italian Guy posted:

It's a porn site.

I guess the idea is that, since Musk wants to do an "everything-app", the various parts of it are going to be called X-something. So his Youtube competitor is going to face some naming-related challenges.

YouTube already called their subscription thing YouTubeRed when RedTube is already a porn site but at least later changed it to be YouTube Premium. But with "X" and video streaming there's not as much wiggle room so like I guess he'll call it X Flicks? X Movies? XStream? Kind of painted into a corner here lol

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
Musk has been painted into a corner since he committed to buy twitter for 52.40 a share, more than it was worth and more than he could afford without financial shenanigans that made all future proposals involving Twitter nonviable.

At this point he has opened the paint can and he is huffing it.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Neo Rasa posted:

YouTube already called their subscription thing YouTubeRed when RedTube is already a porn site but at least later changed it to be YouTube Premium. But with "X" and video streaming there's not as much wiggle room so like I guess he'll call it X Flicks? X Movies? XStream? Kind of painted into a corner here lol

Surely there are no other porn sites with x in their names, going to guess this situation never comes up again

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

(While I still think the joke was funny, the post below this one is so loving horrifying that it seems best to remove this.)

Agents are GO! fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Jul 27, 2023

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Some absolute insane poo poo broke this afternoon: Far-right influencer and QAnon promoter Dom Lucre posted CSAM on Twitter. The imagery stayed up for FOUR days and had at least 300K views before the account got suspended. After getting suspended, a gaggle of shitheels from Kari Lake to the Krassensteins lobbied Musk to reinstate him, who did it within hours of the suspension after deleting the offending tweets. Musk is saying that it was a misunderstanding regards the suspension and that no one actually saw the imagery thanks to their Child Safety Team, but there's hundreds of replies in the original thread commenting on the original post.






BTW, Dom Lucre was one of those guys that Musk paid out a couple weeks ago.



Edit: apparently, they didn't get all of it, so Twitter will now download child pornography to your device without your knowledge. Great.



I am probably going to significantly reduce my use of Twitter now.

Edit Edit: poo poo gets worse and worse...

Young Freud fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Jul 27, 2023

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
This really reminds me of that media person lamenting that people were mean to her, getting support from all the usual suspects in the New York City social media landscape, whatever their supposed ideology, where a bit of digging turned out that people were mean to her because she kept defending her parents, the convicted human traffickers; except it's the griftosphere and CSAM. :stare:

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

I misread that as CSPAM at first and was confused then horrified.

In regards to Thorn, I wonder if they stopped paying them not out of the usually obstinate "too big to fail" arrogance but because they are assuming that a company that makes CSAM-detecting programs cares enough about kids that they wouldn't just cut the license and let it run rampant just because twitter stopped paying them.

Reflections85
Apr 30, 2013

Absurd Alhazred posted:

This really reminds me of that media person lamenting that people were mean to her, getting support from all the usual suspects in the New York City social media landscape, whatever their supposed ideology, where a bit of digging turned out that people were mean to her because she kept defending her parents, the convicted human traffickers; except it's the griftosphere and CSAM. :stare:

Who was this?

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Reflections85 posted:

Who was this?

I don't remember, this was a while back, 2021 or before.

Reflections85
Apr 30, 2013

Absurd Alhazred posted:

I don't remember, this was a while back, 2021 or before.

Got it. I tried to Google around, but everything was drowned out by Sound of Freedom / qanon stuff. Just morbid curiosity about how people in media close ranks to defend each other.

Edit: I think this was about Jia Tolentino. Although I can only find a LiveJournal post about it.

Reflections85 fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Jul 27, 2023

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Reflections85 posted:

Got it. I tried to Google around, but everything was drowned out by Sound of Freedom / qanon stuff. Just morbid curiosity about how people in media close ranks to defend each other.

Edit: I think this was about Jia Tolentino. Although I can only find a LiveJournal post about it.

Found a reddit thread which in turn led me to an extensive source here (including providing the overall predatory context of the overseas foreign worker industry in the Philippines).

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!
Oh christ. I'm not going to even try to confirm since it's sickening even as a concept, but that thread mentions a "daisy" as one of the child survivors, which is a name that also cropped up in Josh Duggar's trial as perhaps the most reprehensible of all the vile horrors that monster repeatedly got off to.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

SET A COURSE FOR
THE FLAVOR QUADRANT

FlamingLiberal posted:

This is incredible

https://twitter.com/ericliptonnyt/status/1684106327109382146?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA

“Pay me or I will let random people go hog wild with your brand”

Maybe we'll get actually free insulin? :shrug:

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Oh christ. I'm not going to even try to confirm since it's sickening even as a concept, but that thread mentions a "daisy" as one of the child survivors, which is a name that also cropped up in Josh Duggar's trial as perhaps the most reprehensible of all the vile horrors that monster repeatedly got off to.

From a lot of the conversations that have come up regarding this, it is in fact THAT video.

Which makes things stranger because a lot of CSAM-block-and-report algorithms are meant to compare hashes and visual data, since that video is well-known and documented among anti-CSAM-proliferation and CSA researchers, and should have been blocked. The simplest explanation, however, is that Elon has simply turned that off when he was cutting costs.

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PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
maybe stonk bots and other hft algos/bots should just ignore birdsite?

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