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Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

lol

This is your brain on AMERICA BAD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUVmeYgo1Iw

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HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
e: toxic mental says no more

Mederlock
Jun 23, 2012

You won't recognize Canada when I'm through with it
Grimey Drawer

:negative:
Good God that was literal dog poo poo. I barely pulled through to the end just out of morbid curiosity to see how bad it would get. What in the gently caress was that


:byetankie:

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

bob dobbs is dead posted:

vassal fiefs. peeps with fiefs, if you will

Prigozhin: Chef Boyar Z

i stole that from someone i know

Lin-Manuel Turtle
Jul 12, 2023

:byetankie:

RoboBoogie
Sep 18, 2008

Ass_Burgerer posted:

Airlines are getting BAD, even in the US. Repairs and mantainance are more frequently being delegated to 3rd party contractors rather than in-house mechanics. These cheaper mechanics SUCK, btw. Constantly messing up jobs, misaligned holes for rivets and they like, fudging paperwork, etc. Lots of shortcuts.

How do I know this? My dad worked for united airlines for over 30 years as a mechanic. At some point, they started getting contracted maintainance for their plains in Texas and Alabama where labor is cheaper and regulation is more lax. All plains still get double checked in-house, and which almost always results in having to redo the work.

I can only imagine how bad it is for poorer countries....

:byetankie: I helped make this! :byetankie: See mom I achieved something!!! :byetankie:

Didn’t US carriers started sending planes to el Salvador for major work?
I remember qantas was sending planes to the Phillipines and started having issues with their repair work.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

HonorableTB posted:

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1683868781372747778?s=20

even before the war you had to have a death wish to fly Aeroflot, if you do so now it's just a very expensive way to unalive yourself

can confirm

source: flew Aeroflot

even back in the day I joked about seeing a flight attendant on the wing duct taping the wing Nightmare at 20,000 Feet style

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Ass_Burgerer posted:

Airlines are getting BAD, even in the US. Repairs and mantainance are more frequently being delegated to 3rd party contractors rather than in-house mechanics. These cheaper mechanics SUCK, btw. Constantly messing up jobs, misaligned holes for rivets and they like, fudging paperwork, etc. Lots of shortcuts.

How do I know this? My dad worked for united airlines for over 30 years as a mechanic. At some point, they started getting contracted maintainance for their plains in Texas and Alabama where labor is cheaper and regulation is more lax. All plains still get double checked in-house, and which almost always results in having to redo the work.

I can only imagine how bad it is for poorer countries....

:byetankie: I helped make this! :byetankie: See mom I achieved something!!! :byetankie:

this isn't meant to contradict anything you just posted and in fact i presume you know a lot more about the situation than me

but every time you posted plains instead of planes i felt my eyebrow twitch

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

one ticket on the aeroflop please

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

what the gently caress is this?

oh god no

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
lol rich dude writing a song (massive air quotes) about money like it's some arbitrary thing.

Tigey
Apr 6, 2015

Ass_Burgerer posted:

Airlines are getting BAD, even in the US. Repairs and mantainance are more frequently being delegated to 3rd party contractors rather than in-house mechanics. These cheaper mechanics SUCK, btw. Constantly messing up jobs, misaligned holes for rivets and they like, fudging paperwork, etc. Lots of shortcuts.

How do I know this? My dad worked for united airlines for over 30 years as a mechanic. At some point, they started getting contracted maintainance for their plains in Texas and Alabama where labor is cheaper and regulation is more lax. All plains still get double checked in-house, and which almost always results in having to redo the work.

I can only imagine how bad it is for poorer countries....

:byetankie: I helped make this! :byetankie: See mom I achieved something!!! :byetankie:

This is more or less the kind of trend Putin is counting on.

That this kind of unrestrained neoliberalism - of cutting everything to the bone, shovelling as much money upward and making inequality even worse, will basically continue to hollow out and erode Western economies, societies and politics as they become ultra-capitalist hellholes.

This will lead to democracy and social cohesion breaking down and more countries going far-right authoritarian/fash, destroying any semblance of internationalism/unity as they bicker like Trumps and Orbans, and creating opportunities for him to isolate Ukraine from Western support, finish it off, militarise and pick off others.

He knows he is militarily and economically outmatched against the West, but believes time is on his side on this and he has at least a chance at outlasting us. Whether he's right is up to us

Tigey fucked around with this message at 10:20 on Jul 26, 2023

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Tigey posted:

This is more or less the kind of trend Putin is counting on.

That this kind of unrestrained neoliberalism - of cutting everything to the bone, shovelling as much money upward and making inequality even worse, will basically continue to hollow out and erode Western economies, societies and politics as they become ultra-capitalist hellholes.

This will lead to democracy and social cohesion breaking down and more countries going far-right authoritarian/fash, destroying any semblance of internationalism/unity as they bicker like Trumps and Orbans, and creating opportunities for him to isolate Ukraine from Western support, finish it off, militarise and pick off others.

He knows he is militarily and economically outmatched against the West, but believes time is on his side on this and he has at least a chance at outlasting us. Whether he's right is up to us

But russia is an ultra-capitalist hellhole :confused:

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
If you look hard enough, like really really hard, it's an utopian communist perfect state that some people dream of.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

If you disregard everything you hear about Russia and ignore every warning sign and evidence to the contrary, its a perfect socialist utopia and a paradise on Earth.

Tigey
Apr 6, 2015

mobby_6kl posted:

But russia is an ultra-capitalist hellhole :confused:

Spoiling everything and dragging everyone down to Russia's level is part of the strategy.

Because then countries will be weaker, and focus on their more immediate, local interests.

He sees Ukraine as an immediate, regional Russian strategic interest. But a lesser, distant 'luxury' interest for most Western countries (at least the ones that matter - who cares what the weak ones think).

Oldsmobile
Jun 13, 2006

numptyboy posted:

Libya was going on full on civil war before the west got involved and the the arab league was completely onboard with intervention.
The state was on the verge of failure and was massacring it's own civilians.

No it wasnt a good outcome, but the root cause was Gaddafi being a piece of poo poo... Just like Putin.
Who knows how it would have turned out if no-one intervened - but Im going to guess it would have ended up something like Bucha with gratuitious murder and torture.

It's a Western myth that governments that become unstable will eventually become stable again. It's our inability to think outside of the nation-state paradigm.

Things can just stay unstable for decades like in Somalia.

The thing is, people in a certain geographical area have to first buy the idea of statehood before they can take steps in to forming one and while this isn't a problem in Europe it is most definitely not something to take for granted elsewhere.

I'm not defending Gaddafi or the intervention. Just pointing out that the West has a hard time understanding that things don't always work the way we think they should and that influences decision making all the time.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Oldsmobile posted:

It's a Western myth that governments that become unstable will eventually become stable again. It's our inability to think outside of the nation-state paradigm.

Things can just stay unstable for decades like in Somalia.

The thing is, people in a certain geographical area have to first buy the idea of statehood before they can take steps in to forming one and while this isn't a problem in Europe it is most definitely not something to take for granted elsewhere.

I'm not defending Gaddafi or the intervention. Just pointing out that the West has a hard time understanding that things don't always work the way we think they should and that influences decision making all the time.

How do you feel about opposing oppressive strongman dictatorships as a principle? I was educated last night that as it turns out, opposing such autocrats actually means that I also want to kill refugees by drowning them to the Mediterranean Sea.

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Alan Smithee posted:

can confirm

source: flew Aeroflot

even back in the day I joked about seeing a flight attendant on the wing duct taping the wing Nightmare at 20,000 Feet style

Years ago I was on a press trip to see some 1C Company games in Moscow, and the tickets their PR company got for me were Aeroflot. We flew from Helsinki to St. Petersburg for refueling and de-icing, and then onwards to Moscow. This was in the dead of winter, back when we still had snow at winter.

I had a seat by the wing and I was extremely surprised to see that instead of the pump trucks that shoot purple stuff all over the wings to de-ice them, the ground crew at St. Petersburg used some kind of weird low powered flamethrowers to not blast the wings or anything, but just kinda ... sweep over them. A bunch of very bored looking Russian guys chain smoking in a blizzard and standing there waving these weird heat blower things around.

I've spent a long time trying to figure out exactly what they were doing and if those things are actually something a reasonable airline should be using in .... I wanna say like 2006?

E: on the way back I had a seat by one of the emergency exits, and a smiling flight attendant explained to me prior to take-off that the door will make a lot of noise in flight and it will look bad, but don't worry, it cannot fall off. And sure enough, the thing sounded like this washing machine the entire flight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq6T5BojXc8&t=17s

Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Jul 26, 2023

boofhead
Feb 18, 2021

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

Years ago I was on a press trip to see some 1C Company games in Moscow, and the tickets their PR company got for me were Aeroflot. We flew from Helsinki to St. Petersburg for refueling and de-icing, and then onwards to Moscow. This was in the dead of winter, back when we still had snow at winter.

I had a seat by the wing and I was extremely surprised to see that instead of the pump trucks that shoot purple stuff all over the wings to de-ice them, the ground crew at St. Petersburg used some kind of weird low powered flamethrowers to not blast the wings or anything, but just kinda ... sweep over them. A bunch of very bored looking Russian guys chain smoking in a blizzard and standing there waving these weird heat blower things around.

I've spent a long time trying to figure out exactly what they were doing and if those things are actually something a reasonable airline should be using in .... I wanna say like 2006?

Ah I remember this from the documentary The Fifth Element

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars

Tigey posted:

This is more or less the kind of trend Putin is counting on.

That this kind of unrestrained neoliberalism - of cutting everything to the bone, shovelling as much money upward and making inequality even worse, will basically continue to hollow out and erode Western economies, societies and politics as they become ultra-capitalist hellholes.

This will lead to democracy and social cohesion breaking down and more countries going far-right authoritarian/fash, destroying any semblance of internationalism/unity as they bicker like Trumps and Orbans, and creating opportunities for him to isolate Ukraine from Western support, finish it off, militarise and pick off others.

He knows he is militarily and economically outmatched against the West, but believes time is on his side on this and he has at least a chance at outlasting us. Whether he's right is up to us

Putin is 70, I am not sure whether time is really on his side especially if it means waiting for another few election cycles in Western countries.

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.
Trump and Biden are close to or north of 80 now. While I hope it doesn't happen, putin may see at least two u.s. presidential cycles come and go. Unless the reaper deploys tactical assault windows, the elite/super rich can regularly expect to make it to 80+ due to cutting edge modern medical tech.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009


Watched all of it. :stonklol: :stonklol:

Then found out he took his own life in 2019. :(

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1684143192654983169#m

numptyboy
Sep 6, 2004
somewhat pleasant

Oldsmobile posted:

It's a Western myth that governments that become unstable will eventually become stable again. It's our inability to think outside of the nation-state paradigm.

Things can just stay unstable for decades like in Somalia.

The thing is, people in a certain geographical area have to first buy the idea of statehood before they can take steps in to forming one and while this isn't a problem in Europe it is most definitely not something to take for granted elsewhere.

I'm not defending Gaddafi or the intervention. Just pointing out that the West has a hard time understanding that things don't always work the way we think they should and that influences decision making all the time.

I don't disagree with anything here and I'm not being critical of the idea that somehow military interventions bring about good things. It just could have been much worse.
Military interventions don't build institutions, robust and fair government/law systems. Neither do the gadafi's or the Putin's of the world.
I'm sure a lot of interventionalists hoped that somehow it would settle down like the Balkans did. There is a limit to what outside forces can do in a situation like this.

I'm pretty sure at least some of the people staring down the barrel of a gun gadafi had pointed at them woild not be alive, if not for the UN intervention.

numptyboy fucked around with this message at 12:32 on Jul 26, 2023

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

what the gently caress is this?

just Roggo continuing to be clueless about what people found appealing in his past art/wanting to pretend he was solely responsible for it's success

Oldsmobile
Jun 13, 2006

Der Kyhe posted:

How do you feel about opposing oppressive strongman dictatorships as a principle? I was educated last night that as it turns out, opposing such autocrats actually means that I also want to kill refugees by drowning them to the Mediterranean Sea.

Lol

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1684017287458615296?s=46 https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1684015527637688321?s=46

Rfk jr cosplays more as his grandpa.

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1684128463320391682#m
And in the meantime, Murz took over terrorist Strelkov's position as doomposter in chief. He reports that all POCCNR can do is make attacks as expensive as possible for Ukraine, the quality of the soldiers available at the front are steadily growing worse, supplies are getting more and more strained, transfer of troops to various sectors is slow at best, and Ukraine is steadily making technical improvements in both the quantity and quality of their soldiery and equipment. The only chance is urgent mobilization and that as fast as possible, because if the last reserves of combat ready troops are gone, all they have left is cannon fodder.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

my takeaway is the ones who had their cities bombed to hell by the aggressor managed to win?

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Shaman Tank Spec posted:


E: on the way back I had a seat by one of the emergency exits, and a smiling flight attendant explained to me prior to take-off that the door will make a lot of noise in flight and it will look bad, but don't worry, it cannot fall off. And sure enough, the thing sounded like this washing machine the entire flight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq6T5BojXc8&t=17s

tbf they probably strap one to the other side of the door

Xerxes17
Feb 17, 2011

:byetankie: is an incredible emote and I love it. :perfect:

gently caress Russia, slava Ukraine.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

zone posted:

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1684128463320391682#m
And in the meantime, Murz took over terrorist Strelkov's position as doomposter in chief. He reports that all POCCNR can do is make attacks as expensive as possible for Ukraine, the quality of the soldiers available at the front are steadily growing worse, supplies are getting more and more strained, transfer of troops to various sectors is slow at best, and Ukraine is steadily making technical improvements in both the quantity and quality of their soldiery and equipment. The only chance is urgent mobilization and that as fast as possible, because if the last reserves of combat ready troops are gone, all they have left is cannon fodder.
Wow that's too much doomerism even for me lol. My guess is that monke will wait until the last possible moment to hit the mobilization button again. Probably lose a bunch of territory in the process, before managing to slow things down again for a bit.


I pointed this out in the Trump thread but he seems to be forgetting that Ukrainians were also fighting in Stalingrad.

GSV Fuck Your God
Aug 27, 2003

small-l liberalism

mobby_6kl posted:

Wow that's too much doomerism even for me lol. My guess is that monke will wait until the last possible moment to hit the mobilization button again. Probably lose a bunch of territory in the process, before managing to slow things down again for a bit.

I pointed this out in the Trump thread but he seems to be forgetting that Ukrainians were also fighting in Stalingrad.

Unfortunately, a lot of people subscribe to the Russian cult of the war.

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars

Ah yes, invasions of other countries, known to be started to preserve territorial integrity of your own country.

Ronwayne posted:

Trump and Biden are close to or north of 80 now. While I hope it doesn't happen, putin may see at least two u.s. presidential cycles come and go. Unless the reaper deploys tactical assault windows, the elite/super rich can regularly expect to make it to 80+ due to cutting edge modern medical tech.
True, it's simply my (maybe unfounded) observation that Russian/Putin's actions are more 'rushed' since the start of the war (or were even during the preparations) and they are no longer focused on long term goals because they are failing their more immediate goals. War was supposed to be won by now, Europe was supposed to freeze over the winter and drop its support of Ukraine, partial mobilization didn't help them achieve their war goals, huge portion of budget is swallowed by the war while profits from fossil fuels are dwindling, China is also not particularly eager to resume gas pipeline project and there was already coup attempt. I am not sure whether Putin wants to wait for his 90th birthday to see his 'lifetime achievement' while things around him are not progressing or are deteriorating. But this is all just guesswork.

mercenarynuker
Sep 10, 2008

:byetankie:
I just wanted to use the new emote, it's fuckin sweet

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
https://twitter.com/lib_crusher/status/1683969096105205760?s=20

Who must be denazified? *cups ear*

Pot Smoke Phoenix
Aug 15, 2007



Smoke 'em if you gottem!
Dinosaur Gum

mercenarynuker posted:

:byetankie:
I just wanted to use the new emote, it's fuckin sweet

The way it appears to be waving “good bye!” makes it even more special than it already is

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Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars
Another great success of the Russian mir, new multipolar world order, BRICS, monke, good faith efforts regarding Ukrainian grain and whatnot

Two-thirds of African leaders refuse to attend Putin’s summit

quote:

The majority of African nations' leaders have chosen not to attend the upcoming Russia-Africa summit, with 38 out of 55 countries opting not to send their heads of state, The Moscow Times reported on July 25.

Previous "Russia-Africa summit" was held in 2019, 43 heads of state or government were in attendance.

quote:

Russian Foreign Ministry Special Envoy Oleg Ozerov responded to the boycott saying, "We won't kick up a fuss because, firstly, they might have other pre-planned events requiring the participation of heads of state; and secondly, those who could attend, attended."

Other heads of states already planned to wash their hair, so they could not attend.

:byetankie:

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