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toggle posted:what does everyone's bug out bag look like? A plastic wallet of the finest printed ballot papers.
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Jul 26, 2023 13:23
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i printed out my favourite posts and put them in my bug out bag so i can larp having a computer
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Jul 26, 2023 13:52
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Koirhor posted:jesus christ its the futurama episode That futurama episode involved the investment of huge amounts of resources into addressing an issue of climate change with no direct, individual benefit to anyone It was far too optimistic
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Jul 26, 2023 13:55
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Koirhor posted:jesus christ its the futurama episode that's why I'm not worried. once the poles and all the glaciers melt into the sea, global warming will be solved forever.
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Jul 26, 2023 13:56
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Rock Puncher posted:i printed out my favourite posts and put them in my bug out bag so i can larp having a computer You could have saved paper by just having a print out of "there's CRINGE in the" and then lots of cut-out words you just swap in and out
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Jul 26, 2023 13:57
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Rock Puncher posted:i printed out my favourite posts and put them in my bug out bag so i can larp having a computer library bulletin boards will continue to exist for your posting needs.
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Jul 26, 2023 13:58
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A Bad King posted:library bulletin boards will continue to exist for your posting needs. bold to assume libraries will still exist
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Jul 26, 2023 13:59
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:i think our only hope right now is that the chinese manage to divert all their resources into this at a massive scale, and not only go negative carbon for themselves but also manage to offset the carbon that the west/rest of world is all burning. since they're the only communist superpower they are the only ones with an actual incentive to pull this off China isn't communist
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Jul 26, 2023 14:09
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TehSaurus posted:real solution/technology chat: I think most folks in the thread know this but the only plausible solution is redirecting all of our resources into building out nuclear and renewable capacity and using that capacity for carbon capture. At this point we also need a significant amount of aerosol injection to delay collapse long enough for these efforts to pay off. It might come to this. Cleaning up the grid and eliminating carbon from power generation will go a long way. But once (if) we have all that carbon free electricity carbon capture would be the absolute last thing to do with it. The first thing would be to get as many personal vehicles off the road and make the rest electric. Then stop burning things to heat out homes, heat pumps all the way. Then use that clean electricity for things like steel production and other industrial processes. Then use it to make green hydrogen and green ammonia to power the parts of the economy that can't be easily electrified like cargo ships and planes. Only after all that does carbon capture make any sense. We dug ourselves into a massive hole, carbon capture is an attempt to fill it in, but the first step to get out of a hole is to stop digging. Otherwise we will be trying to fill up the hole with a teaspoon when someone else is still digging it out with a backhoe.
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Jul 26, 2023 14:11
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4d3d3d posted:China isn't communist 
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Jul 26, 2023 14:11
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4d3d3d posted:China isn't communist
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Jul 26, 2023 14:15
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FlapYoJacks posted:unfortunately my brother hasn’t fully cracked pinged yet and is a “${technology}” person. His answer is “it’s not invented yet but humans are really good at rushing to fix things.” can these people point to a single time in which this has happened? i don't get where this idea comes from
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Jul 26, 2023 14:17
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how can they be communist?? weed is illegal there!!
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Jul 26, 2023 14:18
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Why do people still call China communist? Do they know what China even is. It's a capitalist country
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Jul 26, 2023 14:22
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Jul 26, 2023 14:23
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:i think our only hope right now is that the chinese manage to divert all their resources into this at a massive scale, and not only go negative carbon for themselves but also manage to offset the carbon that the west/rest of world is all burning. since they're the only communist superpower they are the only ones with an actual incentive to pull this off 4d3d3d posted:China isn't communist China is authoritarian, not communist. BTW, they have 1118 coal power plants vs 225 in the US and 285 in India and they permitted 2 per week in 2022. I'm 100% with you about the problem and threat of climate change, I can read charts as well as anyone else, but I don't share this optimism that communism will save us. First I don't even know how we become communist. If you try to get the US off imperial measurements to metric you will be called a communist. What happened if you actually try to implement communism? Even if you managed to, it still wouldn't solve anything.
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Jul 26, 2023 14:24
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Google China guys
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Jul 26, 2023 14:25
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what the gently caress is happening in this thread
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Jul 26, 2023 14:25
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you ruined my good china
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Jul 26, 2023 14:25
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Tungsten posted:what the gently caress is happening in this thread gbs posters
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Jul 26, 2023 14:25
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4d3d3d posted:Google China guys
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Jul 26, 2023 14:26
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Zeta Taskforce posted:First I don't even know how we become communist. If you try to get the US off imperial measurements to metric you will be called a communist. What happened if you actually try to implement communism? Even if you managed to, it still wouldn't solve anything. 
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Jul 26, 2023 14:26
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Tungsten posted:what the gently caress is happening in this thread Zodium posted:gbs posters
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Jul 26, 2023 14:27
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guys guys killing all the rich people and stopping their rape of the natural world won’t solve anything, maybe we should try voting one into a useless political office
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Jul 26, 2023 14:28
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I will let everyone on gbs know they have gone too far this time
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Jul 26, 2023 14:29
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Tungsten posted:can these people point to a single time in which this has happened? i don't get where this idea comes from "we fixed the ozone layer!" which is at best a half-truth, it's taken 15 years for cfc levels in the atmosphere to drop 10% and there are concerns the recovery is slowing down due to countries violating the montreal protocol (idk how much truth there is to this)
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Jul 26, 2023 14:30
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Zeta Taskforce posted:China is authoritarian, not communist. BTW, they have 1118 coal power plants vs 225 in the US and 285 in India and they permitted 2 per week in 2022. I'm 100% with you about the problem and threat of climate change, I can read charts as well as anyone else, but I don't share this optimism that communism will save us. communism could have helped if we had implemented it like 80 years ago, but that's not what happened "authoritarianism" is not an ideology or system of government
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Jul 26, 2023 14:31
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Tungsten posted:communism could have helped if we had implemented it like 80 years ago, but that's not what happened If only capitalist forces hadn't undermined every attempt at building a communist state and even today a bunch of uneducated losers call a state that's been capitalist for decades "communist" thereby attributing every horrible thing it does to the wrong ideology but here we are
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Jul 26, 2023 14:33
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4d3d3d posted:If only capitalist forces hadn't undermined every attempt at building a communist state and even today a bunch of uneducated losers call a state that's been capitalist for decades "communist" thereby attributing every horrible thing it does to the wrong ideology but here we are actually, shitheads calling every even mildly successful socialist project a giant failure is the reason why people think china isn't can't be communist and successful amirite bois??
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Jul 26, 2023 14:36
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this is an easy fix, just call good things communism and bad things capitalism
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Jul 26, 2023 14:36
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I’m in Liverpool city centre now reading about the shooting of the stag and watching scousers walk by, oblivious to the deep and meaningful bullshit being debated here about China and what technically the political/economic doctrine is we’ll all draw our last breaths under. It is a good day.
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Jul 26, 2023 14:37
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Truga posted:actually, shitheads calling every even mildly successful socialist project a giant failure is the reason why people think china isn't That's not what I said at all mate Go back to just posting news and good tweets, that's all this thread is good for
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Jul 26, 2023 14:37
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4d3d3d posted:That's not what I said at all mate 4d3d3d posted:China isn't communist
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Jul 26, 2023 14:40
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jesus christ
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Jul 26, 2023 14:42
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However, scientists dispute these ideas.
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Jul 26, 2023 14:42
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Tungsten posted:can these people point to a single time in which this has happened? i don't get where this idea comes from I wonder how much of this is due to popular culture. The books, movies, and tv shows we consume are often insanely optimistic triumph of the human spirit type stuff. We were talking about this in regards to Christopher Nolan's Interstellar recently. Even some of the bleaker stuff where people have to overcome great obstacles usually ends up okay because everybody likes a happy ending. I mean, a lot of it is just straight up denial of material reality, but I think we've also been conditioned to believe that things will work out okay in the end.
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Jul 26, 2023 14:43
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Tungsten posted:communism could have helped if we had implemented it like 80 years ago, but that's not what happened Authoritarianism is not an ideology, agreed, not really a system of government either. It can come from the left or the right and can be secular or religious in nature and can even coexist with elections. It's just a government where the power is highly centralized and concentrated and that control is maintained through political repression or even armed force. Communism implemented 80 years ago would not have saved us. Every society has elites, even those with communist governments, and their environmental record is worse than the capitalist west.
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Jul 26, 2023 14:44
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4d3d3d posted:If only capitalist forces hadn't undermined every attempt at building a communist state and even today a bunch of uneducated losers call a state that's been capitalist for decades "communist" thereby attributing every horrible thing it does to the wrong ideology but here we are Oh yeah the stupid thing you care about probably actually mattered and would have changed something.
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Jul 26, 2023 14:45
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netizen posted:I wonder how much of this is due to popular culture. The books, movies, and tv shows we consume are often insanely optimistic triumph of the human spirit type stuff. We were talking about this in regards to Christopher Nolan's Interstellar recently. Even some of the bleaker stuff where people have to overcome great obstacles usually ends up okay because everybody likes a happy ending. I mean, a lot of it is just straight up denial of material reality, but I think we've also been conditioned to believe that things will work out okay in the end. It’s this. The correct ending for Interstellar is total calamity. Terrible at the box office for the non-Melancholia loving crowd.
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Jul 26, 2023 14:45
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Zeta Taskforce posted:Communism implemented 80 years ago would not have saved us. Every society has elites, even those with communist governments, and their environmental record is worse than the capitalist west. this utter bullshit is why more people need to read Graeber and Harman, and less gbs
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