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Get Japan a budget to build some giant mecha, but not enough to go all the way so we can get a Guntank, dammit.
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CainFortea posted:
The Mk XXXIII would have found a way to avoid this war. Although that might have been by destroying the Russian concentration on Ukraine's border and daring Putin to launch the nukes, it has the "point" defense capabilities to deal with Russia's strategic arsenal.
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CainFortea posted:
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you know, they have actual cardboard drones running around in ukraine right? https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a43402658/ukraine-cardboard-drones/
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ded posted:you know, they have actual cardboard drones running around in ukraine right? The flight computer, power distribution, radio, camera, video transmitter, and motor is not made from cardboard. What you're replacing with cardboard is plastic or glass fiber/carbon fiber, which aren't really hard materials to source.
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https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1683643667016306688 This seems like a moderately terrifying device.
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PurpleXVI posted:https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1683643667016306688 Jihad Jeeps from Battlefield 3 except drones
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you could ram dudes with drones in that over and over lol
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orange juche posted:Jihad Jeeps from Battlefield 3 except drones A good reply https://twitter.com/jasonsnitker/status/1683649590241755140?s=46
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Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:A good reply BOOMBA was right there!!!
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Jarmak posted:Commercial car radars are far less sophisticated and powerful than a fire control radar. Very true but you also don't need to intercept a 4 ton hypersonic missile here so you likely don't need to go fully into the MIC wonderland. For something functional against a Lancet-like drone one probably just need to get information on the level of "this is a thing, it is faster than 150 km/h, 200 meters away in that direction". For that level of information commercial auto radars would suffice provided they could actually detect the target. Though looking it up the Lancet probably present a radar cross section that is too small on approach for a normal 77ghz radar to pick up at that range.
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bought a new smilie from the gbs thread
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Kith posted:bought a new smilie from the gbs thread  I can get onboard.
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Awww, it's so cute
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Whoever the Sun has doing their youtube videos should probably get an eye exam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVmhxx5VrAA
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It's impressive that their youtube channel is as factual as their paper.
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Alan Smithee posted:you could ram dudes with drones in that over and over lol The golden age was when you could fly yourself around on your own MAV and snipe people from the air
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Kazinsal posted:Get Japan a budget to build some giant mecha, but not enough to go all the way so we can get a Guntank, dammit. But then you could cut drone communication with minovsky particles
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That Works posted:But then you could cut drone communication with minovsky particles shinji shut the gently caress up and get in the drat robot
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Watching these suicide drone videos reminds me of watching precision TV-guided missile attacks on Iraqi targets during the Gulf War on TV when I was a kid. Also, now that I think about it, some of my earliest memories are of watching the Gulf War on TV as it happened.
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Jimmy Smuts posted:Watching these suicide drone videos reminds me of watching precision TV-guided missile attacks on Iraqi targets during the Gulf War on TV when I was a kid. We didn't get to see those until after the war, mostly. 
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Madurai posted:We didn't get to see those until after the war, mostly. I do remember Norman Schwarzkopf holding a press conference at the start of the air war showing videos of precision bombs flying into windows and air ducts. Also something about the "luckiest guy in Iraq" who's car just barely got across abridge before it was taken out.
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So thats a Lancet hitting an old Challanger? And the tank is just sitting there stationary on the road in the middle of the field? I am confused, but not by the Sun's reporting, which is definitely crap.
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Does a lancet have enough boom to do more than mobility kill a Leopard? They don't have shaped charges, do they?
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NYT is reporting Zaporizhzhia occupation officials as claiming Ukraine is making a massive armored push south of Orikhiv right now. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/07/26/world/russia-ukraine-news/russia-ukraine-war-orikhiv-attack?smid=url-share
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A.o.D. posted:Does a lancet have enough boom to do more than mobility kill a Leopard? They don't have shaped charges, do they? For sure a mobility kill, a complete kill is far less likely. And Ukraine has already shown they are recovering vehicles knocked out, which is more than can be said for Russia's tanks....which are usually a smoking ruin.
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CommieGIR posted:For sure a mobility kill, a complete kill is far less likely. It sure did make them world class champions in the turret toss event though. Good times.
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Lancet can absolutely kill modern MBTs. Heres one hitting a Leopard 2 This Leo may very well have been saved by blowout panels in rear turret tho, its hard to tell. But if so, it'd prob be the first time in video Ive seen that safety feature in action in combat.
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Dandywalken posted:Lancet can absolutely kill modern MBTs. I stand corrected, however that looks like the crew survived or would survive. Effectively its a mobility kill. If that was any of the T series it'd be another turret toss champion competitor. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Jul 26, 2023 |
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that's the same video that started the discussion lol
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Dandywalken posted:Lancet can absolutely kill modern MBTs. Other than the blowout panels, it doesn't look like the tank took any major damage. As other people have mentioned, it was probably recovered and sent the rear for repair. I've been videos of Bradleys that have been seriously hosed up and managed to limp back home. The Ukrainians love them, because 1) they would have been killed in a Soviet-built vehicle and 2) they can be salvaged and repaired.
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A.o.D. posted:Does a lancet have enough boom to do more than mobility kill a Leopard? They don't have shaped charges, do they? According to Wikipedia, Russia started using Lancets with HEAT in Ukraine.
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A crew that survives is a crew that can man another tank without training. A tank that doesn't burn out is a tank that can be repaired or used to repair other tanks.
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Dandywalken posted:Lancet can absolutely kill modern MBTs. From that video, it is even unclear how much it actually penetrated. The explosion seen is all on the outside. In the last few seconds, it is hard to see on a tablet where exactly the smoke is coming from (could be from inside the tank, a bit longer would make that clearer).
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DTurtle posted:The ammo storage is on the other side of the turret. On the inside of where that Lancet hit is storage, radio, electronics, and maybe batteries (can’t find a labeled picture, but batteries looks like a good guess). On the outside are smoke grenade launchers I'm assuming it hit the powerpack and something in it is burning.   It looks like turret APU and the panels are just doors. The Lancet isn't even on the correct side to hit that ammo bin, the blowout panel is in one piece, and it slips under and explodes where the hydraulic powerpack sits. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Jul 26, 2023 |
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CommieGIR posted:I'm assuming it hit the powerpack and something in it is burning. The best picture I can find is from model kits:  Which makes it look like mostly electronics - which might actually be mostly separated from the actual crew compartment. DTurtle fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Jul 26, 2023 |
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DTurtle posted:The pictures you’ve posted are from an A4 which has the hydraulics for the turret situated in that corner. The A5 and A6 replaced that with an electric motor. I don’t know where that was placed, or what the space was used for instead. So still not much to hit. Yeah, the tanks done, but the crew has a good chance of surviving.
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CommieGIR posted:I stand corrected, however that looks like the crew survived or would survive. Effectively its a mobility kill. ISIS demonstrated back in 2016 that Leopards are no strangers to turret tossing, but I guess that's an issue with every type of MBT to a greater or lesser degree.  And yes a Lancet can absolutely kill a modern tank.
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