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I mean look I am usually all for marvel level tropes and goofy stuff and ok lets just enjoy this but this was such a steaming pile and at its core it wasn't even an interesting spy story about a secret invasion.
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I'm not even all the way done and those lovely 5 episodes were 1000% worth it to see the super skrull fight it's a tiny little secret war
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Jul 26, 2023 15:54
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:I'm not even all the way done and those lovely 5 episodes were 1000% worth it to see the super skrull fight Did you really get excited by seeing Korg's arm for a few seconds or whatever?
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Jul 26, 2023 15:58
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What a turd of a show. Did the crew all turn up and decide whatever, yawn, who cares, we'll add a reason for anyone to give a poo poo in post? And then run out of budget? Sockser posted:Two hundred and fifty million dollars. 
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Jul 26, 2023 16:12
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Necrothatcher posted:Did you really get excited by seeing Korg's arm for a few seconds or whatever? yah, it was dope 1 hulk arm, 1 Ebony Maw arm, mantis antennae, carol danvers eyes I don't even care that Ghost and Abomination weren't at the Battle of Earth, or that Hulk's blood will canonically kill anyone except Jennifer Walters and Kimmy Schmidt's step-dad disbelief successfully suspended I mean, Gravik even conjures Hulk's shorts on his 1 hulk leg. It's perfect  Also worth noting: no peter parker DNA cause that would be a Sony thing hahahahahaha StrugglingHoneybun fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Jul 26, 2023 |
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Jul 26, 2023 16:26
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I think I can safely say if I am asked that it is perfectly fine to skip this.
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Jul 26, 2023 16:40
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After watching I am convinced Giah is going to be the way Fantastic Four gets introduced to the MCU. In fact, I think her Earth name is going to be Sue Storm. Super Skrull was supposed to be all the F4 powers in one person, I think either an accident or some experiment (maybe to remove or dampen her powers that are out of her control) happens that leaves the chief scientist Reed Richards with his powers and then maybe another Skrull becomes Johnny and a lab tech becomes Thing. She is big enough an actor to anchor that set up. It all kind of makes sense and jives in my head with the way the MCU works.
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Jul 26, 2023 16:59
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Were there any rumors about this prior to release that it was getting negative feedback from focus testing participants and the studio execs like Echo is supposedly getting? Cause if this got positive feedback then maybe Echo is going to be the best thing in the loving world comparatively, those rumors are making the defiant part of me think that show might be good just because if the execs who looked at this and said "yep, this is good to go and money well spent" reckon it's poo poo then that feels like there's an even chance it's good actually.
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Jul 26, 2023 17:04
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swickles posted:After watching I am convinced Giah is going to be the way Fantastic Four gets introduced to the MCU. In fact, I think her Earth name is going to be Sue Storm. Super Skrull was supposed to be all the F4 powers in one person, I think either an accident or some experiment (maybe to remove or dampen her powers that are out of her control) happens that leaves the chief scientist Reed Richards with his powers and then maybe another Skrull becomes Johnny and a lab tech becomes Thing. She is big enough an actor to anchor that set up. It all kind of makes sense and jives in my head with the way the MCU works. Christ on a cracker... that sounds plausible enough to be an actual plan, but I hope they just delete this show from canon after reading the spoilers posted and stick with their actual comics origin. That said, I am going to watch the finale tonight. Can't wait to let this shitshow wash over me and watch my wife's reaction to it. Actually, since everything is in the multiverse now, I really hope if they do keep this thing alive and viewable that they just retcon it as some bullshit from Earth 9845 or something, and we get a proper Secret Invasion (or not, idgaf) later down the line. Buuuut, if this show has any sort of direct lead-up references in The Marvels, there won't be any way to get a re-shoot in to remove it now. Oh boy. thebardyspoon posted:Were there any rumors about this prior to release that it was getting negative feedback from focus testing participants and the studio execs like Echo is supposedly getting? I follow that sort of stuff fairly closely and I don't recall anything at any point during the shows filming or post-production indicating it was a troubled production or not testing well. Honestly, your post here is probably the first thing I've read that made me intrigued to watch Echo. If that's supposedly soooo bad that they're dumping it in full, and this was deemed good enough to follow the regular weekly release strategy... then Echo is either the best D+ MCU show or unwatchable. Considering Disney's cost-cutting and the impact Disney+ shows are having on the MCU brand, I would not be the least bit surprised if Marvel Studios is ordered to cease production on streaming shows. Loki s2 (October) and Echo (November) are up next, then next year we are supposedly getting Ironheart, Agatha, and Daredevil Born Again. Although I would wager the strikes will get those postponed indefinitely, or the strikes will get used as cover to ditch more than a dew projects. Doronin fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jul 26, 2023 |
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Jul 26, 2023 17:12
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Yeah it's not enough that this show is bad, it's that it pollutes the MCU as a whole both forward and backwards, and I am fearful of how they'll adapt the ramifications of SI without just completely abandoning it entirely
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So Fury's whole "I can't call the avengers this is a personal/regular humans need to solve this poo poo themselves" plan ended with him giving an alien all the avengers powers to fight another alien with all the avengers powers??
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Jul 26, 2023 17:21
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Lmao. Fury leaving a mess behind because he can't be late for Captain Marvel 2 is some next level poo poo.
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Jul 26, 2023 17:25
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Is Giah going to randomly pop in Marvels now that she has Captain Marvel's powers?
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Jul 26, 2023 17:26
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Sockser posted:Yeah it's not enough that this show is bad, it's that it pollutes the MCU as a whole both forward and backwards, and I am fearful of how they'll adapt the ramifications of SI without just completely abandoning it entirely I mean, it's really headed to be completely abandoned. It's simply not a well-seen show that has any hype and you can really handwave most of it away.
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Parkingtigers posted:All of this. I'll assume that all of the above spoilers are part of why we'll have President "Indiana" Ross. Ross might be his own kind of grumpy rear end in a top hat but I don't see him accepting genocide.
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Jul 26, 2023 17:40
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Skrulls relocate to the Celestial head island, the powers are divided up individually to the inevitable human/skrull children that had been born in the years since they came to Earth and are now teenagers. and to a couple older skrulls, one of whom lived through a prison camp set up by the president.... The DNA we saw on screen was: Ghost : Kitty Pride / Nightcrawler Winder Soldier: Colossus Ebony Maw: Magneto Cull Obsidian: Juggernaut Proxima Midnight: Rogue Corvus Glaive: Psylocke Thor Odinson: Gambit Black Panther: Wolverine and Sabretooth Captain America: ?? Hulk: Beast Abomination: ?? Valkyrie: Angel Captain Marvel: Cyclops and Havok Frost Beast: Ice Man / Emma Frost Extremis: Pyro Mantis: Professor X Groot: ??
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Yannick_B posted:I mean, it's really headed to be completely abandoned. It's simply not a well-seen show that has any hype and you can really handwave most of it away. they will say he was a one term president and all the terrorists he inspired are all arrested and everything is fixed now maybe add a wink at the camera or something
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What a dumb ending that ends up leaving me with more questions. How does the US suddenly know who the Skrulls are? The dipshit POTUS didn't even know Rhodes was one! Was Fury's plan entirely hinged on Gaia winning in a powered up fistfight? What an absolutely insane plan! At that point it seems way better to just cut your losses and reveal the Skrulls, have the President or Russia wipe out the rebels and be done with them. Yeah, killing 2000ish people isn't good but seems better! The President just declared war on all aliens so, uh, good luck dealing with the New Asgardians and Thor! And one insanely strong Skrull! And some other less useful randos. It's going to create a very awkward situation the next time the Avengers or whatever get together right? Is Rhodes obligated to shoot Thor? If the MCU wanted to create a remotely interesting world (they don't), they could do something like create some new world power blocs where the Asgardians are allied with the EU, Wakanda is allied with the African Union, etc. Maybe a certain doctor comes along... Instead we get whatever this nonsense is which will not matter at all by the time the next movie or series or whatever happens. Fury seems happy enough to see Carol. And we know Ford is joining at some point so I guess the current dude loses and Ford comes in and reverses everything?
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So the Skrulls plan was to stage an attack on the a head of state to provoke them into retaliation and leading to WW3. The President at the last second averts his response to put an end to their plan. He then creates a new response which provokes people into assassinating other heads of states???
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Jul 26, 2023 18:11
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It's great that a nothing character that Marvel has already let be known will not be keeping his job started a global genocide that got heads of state murdered (good job by the UK secret service btw, letting one guy just run up on a press conference). Why didn't Colman just shoot Rhodey in the leg? Oh right, because then there wouldn't have been the dramatic tension.
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Yannick_B posted:I mean, it's really headed to be completely abandoned. It's simply not a well-seen show that has any hype and you can really handwave most of it away. Yea I have a feeling we're getting another Eternals where it's just memory holed. At least they do that - instead of going ahead with it anyway
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I haven't watched the finale yet but Rhodey was absolutely not replaced pre-Endgame and if the writers were trying to suggest that then their own show contradicts it. In episode 5 Fury says that Gravik collected the DNA after the big Thanos battle in Endgame. He clearly had not gone rogue by that point, so why would he have been kidnapping people?
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So. loving. Dull. The MCU is falling out of the public's favor pretty rapidly and they can't afford to keep making mistakes.
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wait, so when they said there were 20 russian not turning back into skrull bodies proving it was a real russian attack, Gravik used only actual russian mercenaries/soldiers for the attack except for him and his second in command?
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Jul 26, 2023 18:41
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Nick Fury loving off to space/The Marvels at the end of this is very “My work here is done” Simpsons meme
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LividLiquid posted:So. loving. Dull. I'm still hoping Loki's next adventure will be a fun time, but this Skrull show sounds awful. I haven't watched it yet and I get the impression I'm better off this way 
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FoneBone posted:Nick Fury loving off to space/The Marvels at the end of this is very “My work here is done” Simpsons meme But he left a strongly worded voicemail for the president!
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Rappaport posted:I'm still hoping Loki's next adventure will be a fun time, but this Skrull show sounds awful. I haven't watched it yet and I get the impression I'm better off this way Isn't the reason they're not showing much of Loki season 2 that it's almost definitely got Majors in and all around it so they're just utterly unsure how it's going to come across? If that's true it's probably gonna feel slightly weird.
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This was disappointing. NGL, I did dig the dumb action figure fight at the end even though it made zero sense and I was really hoping for those power to start wearing off before the end. But wow this show started off slow, but with potential and was only watchable because of a couple good performances and only when those actors were on screen. Imagine if the first episode was the attack on the convoy and then the Presidential address from this episode and that is what set up our conflict. Fury having to diffuse xenophobic humans and Skrull extremists. That the whole "home planet" was already laid out as being impossible without exposing the Skrulls to Kree attacks and the space station being a compromise for those skrulls who didn't want to live in hiding on Earth. Then you could have a show about actually accepting and integrating refugees as part of society, which might be a good message in today's political climate.
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thebardyspoon posted:Isn't the reason they're not showing much of Loki season 2 that it's almost definitely got Majors in and all around it so they're just utterly unsure how it's going to come across? If that's true it's probably gonna feel slightly weird. Marvel doesn't really play things close to the vest. We knew Kang was going to be the villain in Quantumania before he showed up in Loki and we knew Ross becomes president and Fury returns to space before Secret Invasion. Seems more likely that Renslayer and Miss Minutes are the main antagonists in S2.
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WhyteRyce posted:wait, so when they said there were 20 russian not turning back into skrull bodies proving it was a real russian attack, Gravik used only actual russian mercenaries/soldiers for the attack except for him and his second in command? Ninurta posted:
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Rappaport posted:I'm still hoping Loki's next adventure will be a fun time, but this Skrull show sounds awful. I haven't watched it yet and I get the impression I'm better off this way I just re-watched the first season and it's a damned masterpiece.
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Arist posted:I haven't watched the finale yet but Rhodey was absolutely not replaced pre-Endgame and if the writers were trying to suggest that then their own show contradicts it. In episode 5 Fury says that Gravik collected the DNA after the big Thanos battle in Endgame. He clearly had not gone rogue by that point, so why would he have been kidnapping people? While I did not particularly like the resolution of this show. Those gripes are trivial. Gravik was doing his own stuff while seemingly following Fury's orders. Fury is a complete idiot when it comes to that boy and didn't notice anything. Also Gravik didn't just nick that DNA back then, since he hadn't had the machine yet. To be fair Fury didn't notice when his whole organization was completely shelled out by Hydra either. I think he's just way to trusting with his underlings, which is a bad attribute for that job. The show sucked.
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Another marvel show that just ends with two people having a CGI slugfest. Is that like studio-mandated or something? What a waste of time all around. I for one, am happy Nick Fury gets to be with the lady gremlin from gremlins 2 though, mazel tov kids, may you have the baldest, saltiest children in the galaxy
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cant cook creole bream posted:While I did not particularly like the resolution of this show. Those gripes are trivial. To be clear, I'm saying that the show does not seem to actually be suggesting that Rhodey was a Skrull in Endgame, which people have been freaking out about online
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Arist posted:To be clear, I'm saying that the show does not seem to actually be suggesting that Rhodey was a Skrull in Endgame, which people have been freaking out about online It's stupid and intentionally somewhat vague, because they want to spark discourse, or haven't actually decided. Honestly, I don't really care. But yeah, I don't really think it would make any sense that he hung out in an irradiated reactor for a decade. Honestly, what was the point of keeping those guys alive in the first place? It's not like they were planning on ever giving them their lives back. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Jul 26, 2023 |
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Jul 26, 2023 20:30
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The show ends with Gravik airing out his reasonable grievances to a fake Fury and then the real Fury fucks off to space after the president of the United States declares war on all aliens. Hashtag Justice for Gravik.
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live with fruit posted:It's great that a nothing character that Marvel has already let be known will not be keeping his job started a global genocide that got heads of state murdered (good job by the UK secret service btw, letting one guy just run up on a press conference). They seem to think that Downing Street is just some unguarded street and anyone can get to the front door of the Prime Minister's residence. That hasn't been true for > 30 years, ever since the IRA nearly got Thatcher that way with a bomb - same as how you don't have simple access to the back garden from nearby buildings any more after the IRA nearly got John Major with a mortar
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