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PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!
I think you might have gotten the point across without posting the ENTIRE wikipedia article.

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mycatscrimes
Jan 2, 2020
For years, you have been asking, "Who is Astro Turf?"

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Oct 30, 2009

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But imagine how much more he makes his point with the whole article

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
Nothing, what’s astroturf with you?

Scott Forstall
Aug 16, 2003

MMM THAT FAUX LEATHER

Read After Burning posted:

If you're gonna cancel a concert last-minute for "unforeseen circumstances", you may not want to be caught in public staggering around drunk shortly beforehand!

Grain of salt, since I don't know when this photo was actually taken. But Depp apparently has a bit of a reputation for either not showing up to work at all, or showing up hella hosed up...

https://twitter.com/cocainecross/status/1681365220290338816

holy poo poo Alice Cooper is 75.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
What is astroturf? Well we want you to think that Turning Point America is a bunch of hip college kids who are going to hip college kid college but those stuffy liberal professors are totally teaching us hip cool college kids that America is bad and evil and communism is great and women are people and poo poo and as hip college kids we don't like that. Please ignore the fact that we are getting money from conservative think tanks and that none of us have set foot on a college campus since the 1960s.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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Read After Burning posted:

Someone woke up the other day and said "You know what I should submit to an anonymous celebrity gossip page? A SERIAL KILLER! :unsmigghh:"



Meanwhile, the anonymous celebrity gossip page thinks a medium can solve this!

This seems to be the same rumor that another "influencer", Ken Waks, has already come under fire for spreading.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tiktok-ken-waks-backlash-serial-killer-case-true-crime-ethics-rcna83105

So the two possibilities here are definitely only that there is either no serial killer (most likely) or that there is a serial killer but it's actually Waks himself, right?

Poops Mcgoots
Jul 12, 2010

tokin opposition posted:

Astroturfing is the practice of hiding the sponsors of a message or organization (e.g., political, advertising, religious, or public relations) to make it appear as though it originates from, and is supported by, grassroots participants. It is a practice intended to give the statements or organizations credibility by withholding information about the source's financial backers. The term astroturfing is derived from AstroTurf, a brand of synthetic carpeting designed to resemble natural grass, as a play on the word "grassroots". The implication behind the use of the term is that instead of a "true" or "natural" grassroots effort behind the activity in question, there is a "fake" or "artificial" appearance of support.

Definition

Artificial grass produced by AstroTurf, which inspired the name "astroturfing" for creating a false impression of grassroots support
In political science, it is defined as the process of seeking electoral victory or legislative relief for grievances by helping political actors find and mobilize a sympathetic public, and is designed to create the image of public consensus where there is none.[1][2] Astroturfing is the use of fake grassroots efforts that primarily focus on influencing public opinion and typically are funded by corporations and political entities to form opinions.[3]

On the internet, astroturfers use software to hide their identity. Sometimes one individual operates through many personas to give the impression of widespread support for their client's agenda.[4][5] Some studies suggest astroturfing can alter public viewpoints and create enough doubt to inhibit action.[6][7] In the first systematic study of astroturfing in the United States, Oxford Professor Philip N. Howard argued that the internet was making it much easier for powerful lobbyists and political movements to activate small groups of aggrieved citizens to have an exaggerated importance in public policy debates.[2] Astroturfed accounts on social media do not always require humans to write their posts; one January 2021 study detailed a "set of human-looking bot accounts" used to post political content, which was able to operate automatically for fourteen days (and make 1,586 posts) before being detected and suspended by Twitter.[8] Twitter trends are often targeted by astroturfing as they are used as a proxy for popularity. A study conducted by researchers at EPFL reported that 20% of the global Twitter trends in 2019 were fake, created automatically using fake and compromised accounts which tweet in a coordinated way to mimic grassroots organizing of regular Twitter users.[9]

Policies and enforcement
Many countries have laws that prohibit more overt astroturfing practices.[10] In the United States, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) may send cease-and-desist orders or require a fine of $16,000 per day for those that violate its "Guides Concerning the Use of Endorsements and Testimonials in Advertising".[10][11] The FTC's guides were updated in 2009 to address social media and word-of-mouth marketing.[12][13] According to an article in the Journal of Consumer Policy, the FTC's guides holds advertisers responsible for ensuring bloggers or product endorsers comply with the guides, and any product endorsers with a material connection are required to provide honest reviews.[10]

In the European Union, the Unfair Commercial Practices Directive requires that paid-for editorial content in the media provide a clear disclosure that the content is a sponsored advertisement.[10] Additionally, it prohibits those with a material connection from misleading readers into thinking they are a regular consumer.[10]

The United Kingdom has the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations,[14] which prohibits "Falsely representing oneself as a consumer." They allow for up to two years in prison and unlimited fines for breaches.[10] Additionally, the advertising industry in the UK has adopted many voluntary policies, such as the Code of Non-Broadcast Advertising, Sale, Promotion and Direct Marketing. A trade association, the Advertising Standards Authority, investigates complaints of breaches. The policy requires that marketing professionals not mislead their audience, including by omitting a disclosure of their material connection.[10]

In Australia, astroturfing is regulated by Section 18 of the Australian Consumer Law, which broadly prohibits "misleading and deceptive conduct". According to the Journal of Consumer Policy, Australia's laws, which were introduced in 1975, are more vague. In most cases, they are enforced through lawsuits from competitors, rather than the regulatory body, the Australian Competition & Consumer Commission.[10] There is also an International Consumer Protection and Enforcement Network (ICPEN).[15]

Legal regulations are primarily targeted towards testimonials, endorsements and statements as to the performance or quality of a product. Employees of an organization may be considered acting as customers if their actions are not guided by authority within the company.[15]

In October 2018, after denying that they had paid for people to show up in support of a controversial power plant development project in New Orleans, Entergy was fined five million dollars for using astroturf firm The Hawthorn Group to provide actors to prevent real community members' voices from being counted at city council meetings and show false grassroots support.[16]

Debate
Effectiveness
In the book Grassroots for Hire: Public Affairs Consultants in American Democracy, Edward Walker defines "astroturfing" as public participation that is perceived as heavily incented, as fraudulent (claims are attributed to those who did not make such statements), or as an elite campaign masquerading as a mass movement.[17] Although not all campaigns by professional grassroots lobbying consultants meet this definition, the book finds that the elite-sponsored grassroots campaigns often fail when they are not transparent about their sources of sponsorship and/or fail to develop partnerships with constituencies that have an independent interest in the issue. Walker highlights the case of Working Families for Wal-Mart, in which the campaign's lack of transparency led to its demise.

A study published in the Journal of Business Ethics examined the effects of websites operated by front groups on students. It found that astroturfing was effective at creating uncertainty and lowering trust about claims, thereby changing perceptions that tend to favor the business interests behind the astroturfing effort.[3] The New York Times reported that "consumer" reviews are more effective, because "they purport to be testimonials of real people, even though some are bought and sold just like everything else on the commercial Internet."[18] Some organizations feel that their business is threatened by negative comments, so they may engage in astroturfing to drown them out.[19] Online comments from astroturfing employees can also sway the discussion through the influence of groupthink.[20]

Justification
Some astroturfing operatives defend their practice.[21] Regarding "movements that have organized aggressively to exaggerate their sway," author Ryan Sager said that this "isn't cheating. Doing everything in your power to get your people to show up is basic politics."[22] According to a Porter/Novelli executive, "There will be times when the position you advocate, no matter how well framed and supported, will not be accepted by the public simply because you are who you are."[23]

Impact on society
Data-mining expert Bing Liu (University of Illinois Chicago) estimated that one-third of all consumer reviews on the Internet are fake.[18] According to The New York Times, this has made it hard to tell the difference between "popular sentiment" and "manufactured public opinion".[24] According to an article in the Journal of Business Ethics, astroturfing threatens the legitimacy of genuine grassroots movements. The authors argued that astroturfing that is "purposefully designed to fulfill corporate agendas, manipulate public opinion and harm scientific research represents a serious lapse in ethical conduct."[3] A 2011 report found that often paid posters from competing companies are attacking each other in forums and overwhelming regular participants in the process.[25] George Monbiot said that persona-management software supporting astroturfing "could destroy the Internet as a forum for constructive debate".[26] An article in the Journal of Consumer Policy said that regulators and policy makers needed to be more aggressive about astroturfing. The author said that it undermines the public's ability to inform potential customers of sub-standard products or inappropriate business practices, but also noted that fake reviews were difficult to detect.[10]

Techniques
Use of one or more front groups is one astroturfing technique. These groups typically present themselves as serving the public interest, while actually working on behalf of a corporate or political sponsor.[27] Front groups may resist legislation and scientific consensus that is damaging to the sponsor's business by emphasizing minority viewpoints, instilling doubt and publishing counterclaims by corporate-sponsored experts.[3] Fake blogs can also be created that appear to be written by consumers, while actually being operated by a commercial or political interest.[28] Some political movements have provided incentives for members of the public to send a letter to the editor at their local paper, often using a copy and paste form letter that is published in dozens of newspapers verbatim.[29]

Another technique is the use of sockpuppets, where a single person creates multiple identities online to give the appearance of grassroots support. Sockpuppets may post positive reviews about a product, attack participants that criticize the organization, or post negative reviews and comments about competitors, under fake identities.[19][30] Astroturfing businesses may pay staff based on the number of posts they make that are not flagged by moderators.[25] Persona management software may be used so that each paid poster can manage five to seventy convincing online personas without getting them confused.[26][31] Online astroturfing using sockpuppets is a form of Sybil attack against distributed systems.

Pharmaceutical companies may sponsor patient support groups and simultaneously push them to help market their products.[32] Bloggers who receive free products, paid travel or other accommodations may also be considered astroturfing if those gifts are not disclosed to the reader.[33] Analysts could be considered astroturfing, since they often cover their own clients without disclosing their financial connection. To avoid astroturfing, many organizations and press have policies about gifts, accommodations and disclosures.[34]

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Persona management software can age accounts and simulate the activity of attending a conference automatically to make it more convincing that they are genuine.[35] At HBGary, employees are given separate thumb drives that contain online accounts for individual identities and visual cues to remind the employee which identity they are using at the time.[35]

Mass letters may be printed on personalized stationery using different typefaces, colors and words to make them appear personal.[36]

According to an article in The New York Times, the Federal Trade Commission rarely enforces its astroturfing laws.[18] Operations are frequently detected if their profile images are recognized[37] or if they are identified through the usage patterns of their accounts.[25] Filippo Menczer's group at Indiana University developed software in 2010 that detects astroturfing on Twitter by recognizing behavioral patterns.[38][39][40]

Business and adoption
According to an article in the Journal of Consumer Policy, academics disagree on how prolific astroturfing is.[10]

According to Nancy Clark from Precision Communications, grass-roots specialists charge $25 to $75 for each constituent they convince to send a letter to a politician.[36] Paid online commentators in China are purportedly paid 50 cents for each online post that is not removed by moderators,[25] leading to the nickname of the "50-cent party".[20] The New York Times reported that a business selling fake online book reviews charged $999 for 50 reviews and made $28,000 a month shortly after opening.[18]

According to the Financial Times, astroturfing is "commonplace" in American politics, but was "revolutionary" in Europe when it was exposed that the European Privacy Association, an anti-privacy "think-tank", was actually sponsored by technology companies.[41]

History of incidents
Origins
Although the term "astroturfing" was not yet developed, an early example of the practice was in Act 1, Scene 2 of Shakespeare's play Julius Caesar. In the play, Gaius Cassius Longinus writes fake letters from "the public" to convince Brutus to assassinate Julius Caesar.[15]

The term "astroturfing" was first coined in 1985 by Texas Democratic Party senator Lloyd Bentsen when he said, "a fellow from Texas can tell the difference between grass roots and AstroTurf... this is generated mail."[15][42] Bentsen was describing a "mountain of cards and letters" sent to his office to promote insurance industry interests.[43]

Pharmaceuticals
Patient advocacy groups funded by biopharmaceutical companies are common.[44][45] In 1997, Schering Plough paid a P/R firm Schandwick International, to create a national coalition of patient advocacy groups promoting Schering's Rebotron, a treatment for Hepatitis C. The groups pushed increased testing as a way to manufacture cases and lobbied state legislatures to cover the $18,000 treatment. The groups also hosted telephone "information lines" with scripts written by the drug company and distributed "patient information" pamphlets promoting drug therapies over other alternatives and overstating the danger of the medical condition.[46] Manufacturers of AIDS drugs commonly fund LGBTQ organizations, which in turn, lobby to advance policies that increase AIDS drug sales. In 2019, the communications director of AIDS United, a Washington DC-based coalition of AIDS service organizations, resigned, stating such funding creates conflicts of interest among gay rights activists.[47]

Tobacco
In response to the passage of tobacco control legislation in the US, Philip Morris, Burson-Marsteller and other tobacco interests created the National Smokers Alliance (NSA) in 1993. The NSA and other tobacco interests initiated an aggressive public relations campaign from 1994 to 1999 in an effort to exaggerate the appearance of grassroots support for smoker's rights. According to an article in the Journal of Health Communication, the NSA had mixed success at defeating bills that were damaging revenues of tobacco interests.[48]

Internet
Email, automated phone calls, form letters, and the Internet made astroturfing more economical and prolific in the late 1990s.[26][42] In 2001, as Microsoft was defending itself against an antitrust lawsuit, Americans for Technology Leadership (ATL), a group heavily funded by Microsoft, initiated a letter-writing campaign. ATL contacted constituents under the guise of conducting a poll and sent pro-Microsoft consumers form and sample letters to send to involved lawmakers. The effort was designed to make it appear as though there was public support for a sympathetic ruling in the antitrust lawsuit.[36][49]

In January 2018, YouTube user Isaac Protiva uploaded a video alleging that internet service provider Fidelity Communications was behind an initiative called "Stop City-Funded Internet", based on how some images on the Stop City-Funded Internet website had "Fidelity" in their file names.[50] The campaign appeared to be in response to the city of West Plains expanding their broadband network, and advocated for the end of municipal broadband on the basis that it was too risky.[51][52] Days later, Fidelity released a letter admitting to sponsoring the campaign.[53]

Politics
In 2009–2010, an Indiana University research study developed a software system to detect astroturfing on Twitter due to the sensitivity of the topic in the run up to the 2010 U.S. midterm elections and account suspensions on the social media platform. The study cited a limited number of examples, all promoting conservative policies and candidates.[38][39][40]

In 2003, GOPTeamLeader.com offered the site's users "points" that could be redeemed for products if they signed a form letter promoting George Bush and got a local paper to publish it as a letter to the editor. More than 100 newspapers published an identical letter to the editor from the site with different signatures on it. Similar campaigns were used by GeorgeWBush.com, and by MoveOn.org to promote Michael Moore's film Fahrenheit 9/11.[29][54] The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget's "Fix the Debt" campaign advocated to reduce government debt without disclosing that its members were lobbyists or high-ranking employees at corporations that aim to reduce federal spending.[55][56] It also sent op-eds to various students that were published as-is.[57]

Some organizations in the Tea Party movement have been accused of being astroturfed.[58]

In October and November 2018, conservative marketing firm Rally Forge created what The New Yorker described as "a phony left-wing front group, America Progress Now, which promoted Green Party candidates online in 2018, apparently to hurt Democrats in several races."[59] Its ads on Facebook used socialist memes and slogans to attack Democrats and urge third-party protest voting in several tight races, including the 2018 Wisconsin gubernatorial election.[60][61]

In 2018, a website called "Jexodus" claiming to be by "proud Jewish Millennials tired of living in bondage to leftist politics" was set up by Jeff Ballabon, a Republican operative in his mid-50s. The website was denounced as "likely a clumsy astroturf effort rather than an actual grassroots movement".[62][63][64][65] The website was registered November 5, 2018, before the congressional election, and before those representatives accused of antisemitism had even been voted in.[65] This website was later cited by Donald Trump as though it were an authentic movement.[62]

In January 2021, a team led by Mohsen Mosleh conducted a politically oriented astroturfing campaign on Twitter, using "a set of human-looking bot accounts"; each bot would search for users posting links the researchers considered to be fake news, and "tweet a public reply message to the user’s tweet that contained the link to the false story". 1,586 spam replies were made over the course of fourteen days, until Twitter detected and suspended all of the bot accounts.[8]

Environment
The Koch brothers started a public advocacy group to prevent the development of wind turbines offshore in Massachusetts. The Kennedy family was also involved.[66][67][68][69][70]

Corporate efforts to mobilize the public against environmental regulation accelerated in the US following the election of president Barack Obama.[71]

In 2014, the Toronto Sun conservative media organization has published an article accusing Russia of using astroturf tactics to drum up anti-fracking sentiment across Europe and the West, supposedly in order to maintain dominance in oil exports through Ukraine.[72]

In Canada, a coalition of oil and gas company executives grouped under the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers also initiated a series of Canadian actions to advocate for the oil and gas industry in Canada through mainstream and social media, and using online campaigning to generate public support for fossil fuel energy projects.[73]

Commercial
In 2006, two Edelman employees created a blog called "Wal-Marting Across America" about two people traveling to Wal-Marts across the country. The blog gave the appearance of being operated by spontaneous consumers, but was actually operated on behalf of Working Families for Walmart, a group funded by Wal-Mart.[74][75] In 2007, Ask.com deployed an anti-Google advertising campaign portraying Google as an "information monopoly" that was damaging the Internet. The ad was designed to give the appearance of a popular movement and did not disclose it was funded by a competitor.[76]

In 2010, the Federal Trade Commission settled a complaint with Reverb Communications, who was using interns to post favorable product reviews in Apple's iTunes store for clients.[77] In September 2012, one of the first major identified cases of astroturfing in Finland involved criticisms about the cost of a €1.8 billion patient information system, which was defended by fake online identities operated by involved vendors.[37][78]

In September 2013, New York Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman announced a settlement with 19 companies to prevent astroturfing. "'Astroturfing' is the 21st century's version of false advertising, and prosecutors have many tools at their disposal to put an end to it," said Scheiderman. The companies paid $350,000 to settle the matter, but the settlement opened the way for private suits as well. "Every state has some version of the statutes New York used," according to lawyer Kelly H. Kolb. "What the New York attorney general has done is, perhaps, to have given private lawyers a road map to file suit."[79][80]

State-sponsored
An Al Jazeera TV series The Lobby documented Israel's attempt to promote more friendly, pro-Israel rhetoric to influence the attitudes of British youth, partly through influencing already established political bodies, such as the National Union of Students and the Labour Party, but also by creating new pro-Israel groups whose affiliation with the Israeli administration was kept secret.[81][82]

In 2008, an expert on Chinese affairs, Rebecca MacKinnon, estimated the Chinese government employed 280,000 in a government-sponsored astroturfing operation to post pro-government propaganda on social media and drown out voices of dissent.[25][83]

In June 2010, the United States Air Force solicited for "persona management" software that would "enable an operator to exercise a number of different online persons from the same workstation and without fear of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries. Personas must be able to appear to originate in nearly any part of the world and can interact through conventional online services and social media platforms..."[84] The $2.6 million contract was awarded to Ntrepid for astroturfing software the military would use to spread pro-American propaganda in the Middle East, and disrupt extremist propaganda and recruitment. The contract is thought to have been awarded as part of a program called Operation Earnest Voice, which was first developed as a psychological warfare weapon against the online presence of groups ranged against coalition forces.[26][85][86][87]

On April 11, 2022, seven weeks into the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, BBC published the results of investigation of a network of Facebook groups with the overall aim to promote the Russian president Vladimir Putin as a hero standing up to the West with overwhelming international support. With the help of researchers from the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, members, activities, and interrelations in 10 pro-Putin public groups with more than 650,000 members between them in the time of writing, boasting names such as Vladimir Putin - Leader of the Free World, were analyzed. Over a month, researchers counted 16,500 posts, receiving more than 3.6 million interactions. The campaign "creates the appearance of widespread support for Putin and the Kremlin in the shadow of the invasion and relies on... inauthentic accounts to accomplish its goal", according to the ISD report. Lead researcher Moustafa Ayad described the network and its practice of using tens of duplicate accounts in potential violation of Facebook's rules on inauthentic behavior as an example of astroturfing.[88]

Ah, I see.

But I see you also mentioned "groupthink". What's that about?

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

Ironically TP USA was infiltrated by an actual grassroots movement of white supremacists trying to push the group even farther right

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted

Poops Mcgoots posted:

Ah, I see.

But I see you also mentioned "groupthink". What's that about?

I like your posts, I love your avatar.

That said, mods ban this poster

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

Poops Mcgoots posted:

Ah, I see.

But I see you also mentioned "groupthink". What's that about?

it's like when people say they dislike my posts because the government told them to

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is Astroturf? :words:

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

Read After Burning posted:

If you're gonna cancel a concert last-minute for "unforeseen circumstances", you may not want to be caught in public staggering around drunk shortly beforehand!

Grain of salt, since I don't know when this photo was actually taken. But Depp apparently has a bit of a reputation for either not showing up to work at all, or showing up hella hosed up...

https://twitter.com/cocainecross/status/1681365220290338816

Depp has always had a reputation as an rear end in a top hat and difficult to work or deal with.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖
This is my favorite one. Women (just like anyone really!) just love when you pre-emptively tell them they won't understand something and it's okay because they don't have to worry their pretty little heads about it, just let them do the thinking, toots, 'cause this is for your own good. Very fun and always puts one at ease. Extremely not revealing that your first response to "hey I have a chance to meet my dumb idol but I have to leave right now" is "this is too complex a concept for a woman to grasp".

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
didnt know that Depp was a musician too.

also isnt he soooo bad with money (and such a drunk) he blows kilo dollars / day on supposed expensive bottles of wine or whatever liquor/spirit is the current fad.

Zero_Grade
Mar 18, 2004

Darktider 🖤🌊

~Neck Angels~

PhazonLink posted:

didnt know that Depp was a musician too.

also isnt he soooo bad with money (and such a drunk) he blows kilo dollars / day on supposed expensive bottles of wine or whatever liquor/spirit is the current fad.
Uh, excuse me, the US is on the imperial system. He blows ounces of dollars per day.

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Oct 30, 2009

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Depp loves drugs so much he literally starred in a movie named after a drug

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

Zero_Grade posted:

Uh, excuse me, the US is on the imperial system. He blows ounces of dollars per day.

yeah but Budapest is in not-America so who knows what they do

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

oldpainless posted:

Depp loves drugs so much he literally starred in a movie named after a drug

Pirates of the Caribbean?

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

PurpleXVI posted:

I think you might have gotten the point across without posting the ENTIRE wikipedia article.

I respect it, just because the op could have easily found that article by searching "what is astroterf politics"

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club

oldpainless posted:

Depp loves drugs so much he literally starred in a movie named after a drug

Chocolat?

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
I literally forgot the movie Blow existed until several people made joke answers and I actually got curious "what the gently caress movie is he talking about." I didn't google it however, it sprang like Athena from my brain after I actually tried to think about what the gently caress movie you were talking about.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Air Skwirl posted:

I respect it, just because the op could have easily found that article by searching "what is astroterf politics"

Does it count as astroterfing when JK Rowling does it?

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

I had a buddy who got robbed while he was away for work- they took everything small and easy to fence, avoiding his TV, but taking his Playstation type thing. He had around 200 DVDs- they took every single one- except 'Blow'.

"It looked like they left it to remind me of my bad choices."

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

Dameius posted:

Does it count as astroterfing when JK Rowling does it?
No that's when you fire all the terfs into loving space.

oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

yet

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
https://twitter.com/rwpopulism/status/1684246886528450576?s=46

https://twitter.com/rwpopulism/status/1681515636713816065?s=46

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

Is Kanye saying he'd have voted GHWB in 88, Clinton in 92, and not voted at all in 96? That seems pretty incoherent.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Hellblazer187 posted:

Is Kanye saying he'd have voted GHWB in 88, Clinton in 92, and not voted at all in 96? That seems pretty incoherent.

He's a pretty incoherent dude.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
He also seems to be saying he'd have voted for a pedophile, presumably any pedophile, in 1968.

A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?
I don't know if that's Kanye, folks.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
What does the orange square actually mean?

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Hellblazer187 posted:

Is Kanye saying he'd have voted GHWB in 88, Clinton in 92, and not voted at all in 96? That seems pretty incoherent.

Well it's Kanye, so-

I imagine he just listed how he actually voted in 96. I do like the idea of famously saying "George Bush doesn't care about black people," following Katrina, then going back in time with the power of foresight and voting for him twice.

A Bad King posted:

I don't know if that's Kanye, folks.
elon banned impersonation so it has to be

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

Air Skwirl posted:

What does the orange square actually mean?

George Wallace. I wasn't alive but I think his platform was "regular democrats aren't racist enough, so vote for me if you want an extremely racist democrat"

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
I mean the orange square next Chris Murpy's name.

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
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Air Skwirl posted:

I mean the orange square next Chris Murpy's name.

It means he's a pedophile. Pedophiles use that symbol to identify eachother On twitter

grittyreboot
Oct 2, 2012

Why would pedophiles need to identify each other? They're all adults by definition.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club

grittyreboot posted:

Why would pedophiles need to identify each other? They're all adults by definition.

Pedophiles are loving children

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Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004


George: it was all a trick, Jerry!
Jerry: but why?
George: they garnered my energy!
Jerry: so, all your energy?
George: Garnered!

tokin opposition posted:

xing, thank you very much

That's 𝕏ing, tyvm.

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