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CelticPredator posted:Horror thread I need your help re: the ufo, there's also always going to be external circumstances: by the time the film comes out the UFO conversation may have (probably will have) moved on. maybe the script just needs edits, rather than a full pass. also, it sounds like the Bond film would require significantly more funding (car chases and gadgets etc) - which you might be able to leverage from a succesful first feature. honestly life is short: i think going with what you want to make - the passion project - is the way to go. because you actually want to make it, you'll be driven to. there's no guarantees you won't have soured on your own original ideas two decades from now, either. plus, you can always revisit the ideas and themes in a later script if you feel like you need to swing at them again. i dunno. i think it's also worth considering which parts of your craft you are most comfortable in, and which you would be honing during the development of the first feature. food for thought!
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Jul 27, 2023 05:30
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What’s giving me pause is the complete failure the short alienated was. It failed every festival it went too both in getting in and reception…but I’ve also shown it to other people who dug it and such. And that’s cool. But a lot of people I showed it too responded with a “oh neat” and moved on lol. Which is just the worst reception something could get in my opinion. Didn’t like it or hate it. Just meh. And a lot of amazing stuff came out of that short, and I am proud of it despite of all that. But it still hurts because so much of that thing meant a lot to me. And I just don’t want to gently caress it up again lol
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Jul 27, 2023 05:34
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CelticPredator posted:What’s giving me pause is the complete failure the short alienated was. It failed every festival it went too both in getting in and reception…but I’ve also shown it to other people who dug it and such. And that’s cool. But a lot of people I showed it too responded with a “oh neat” and moved on lol. Which is just the worst reception something could get in my opinion. Didn’t like it or hate it. Just meh. When I'm choosing between two writing projects, I spend some time thinking both of them through, beat by beat. Usually, I find myself thinking of one of them in just those terms: beats - this happens, then this, wouldn't it be cool if, etc. The other, I'll instinctively start to convert into prose, and that's the one I actually want to write. So in your case I'd ask: do you think of one of the projects in terms of ideas, and one in terms of shots? If one of them seems like a 'better idea' but you can see the other one in your head, the second one is where the passion is, and when you're not being paid upfront, god knows the passion is what pulls you to the end.
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Jul 27, 2023 05:52
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That Saw picture looks like a 90s video game ad
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Jul 27, 2023 05:58
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Opopanax posted:That Saw picture looks like a 90s video game ad The franchise already has its ups and downs but that guy on the poster can’t even see Saw.
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Jul 27, 2023 06:20
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shoeberto posted:That's just I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream Speaking of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74jfnTczdG4
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Jul 27, 2023 06:54
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Saw X now has a poster. Never once doubted this would be amazing. I’m undefeated  Barbenheimer was perfect, Barbie’s my fav film of the year, I called those shots perfectly 370 days ago and I’ve been calling for months that Saw X or Exorcist Believer will be my horror film of the year  Love that they’re back to the original poster style theme too
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Jul 27, 2023 09:00
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Medullah posted:Halloween Ends was not a movie I enjoyed but I had to give them credit for swinging for the fences. Of course then they messed it up by tacking on the final battle. I think I would have actually given it a positive review if it just had the balls to stick with the risky premise. The problem with Kills and Ends is that Kills felt like a climax and Ends felt like the middle movie. Reverse them so you have Michael being apparently dead until Corey finds him and resurrects the evil. Then bring in the Survivors Club to go hunt Michael down, think they've got him but get wasted, and have the end of Ends as the third act.
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Jul 27, 2023 10:00
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Justin Godscock posted:Crazy how we from thinking Halloween 2018 was a fantastic reboot that could have served as a great conclusion to the series if they did just that. This seems to be a common trend with new trilogies of beloved franchises. So what is the ranking of the Halloween movies in light of the new trilogy?
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Jul 27, 2023 10:24
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Halloween 3 Halloween 2018 Halloween 78 Halloween kills Rob zombies Halloween 2 Half of robbzombies Halloween The rest of that poo poo
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Jul 27, 2023 10:28
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CelticPredator posted:Halloween 3 I hope all your movies go direct to video. 
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Jul 27, 2023 10:36
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I personally think Kills and Ends get Halloween more than most do. It was never really about Michael Myers. He was always the boogeyman. Kills and Ends are just overtly about how people create the boogeyman through fear, anger, and trauma. '18 is about that too, it just also has Laurie having a big bad rear end confrontation with Michael. But like the entire core story of that movie is about how Laurie has spent her entire life obsessed Michael was gonna return and poisoning her relationships and it turns out Micheal couldn't give a poo poo about her. Kills and Ends kept taking that idea further and did it with a lot of little details (I love how Laurie's granddaughter becomes a nurse since there's a constant theme in the franchise of caretakers and healthcare workers in direct contrast to the rest). I've only seen Kills twice and Ends once but I'm very much looking forward to a revisit this October. I'm also fully onboard with the new Exorcist and gonna use it as an excuse to rewatch the series and pretend they're all canon because the show rocked.
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Jul 27, 2023 11:19
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CelticPredator posted:Horror thread I need your help Unsolicited advice so 100% feel free to ignore, but your action flick idea might be more manageable on an independent budget / as a first feature if you drop the bloodline element and switch up the evil Bond's motivation; he's in denial about his own mortality, and he's desperate to prove to his superiors (and himself) that he's not obsolete. So he's trying to find and assassinate his younger 'replacements' in the city's bars and poker dens (a Suave Bond, a Brooding Bond, a Female Bond, etc), and he hijacks the kid's driving test to that end. Basically, if you make it more of a Collateral-spoofing two-hander and keep the protagonist and antagonist together for most of the movie, I think you can still get across the satire and build tension while focusing on the dialogue and relationship between the two characters in controlled environments (and then have bursts of violence or action in the interior locations with Old Bond fighting various Young Bonds, the kid turning on Old Bond, etc.) Whereas right now, like you say, even with a lot of indie directorial creativity it feels like the pitch is contingent on car chases, props, and expensive outdoor action, which could be incredibly tough.
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Jul 27, 2023 11:30
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Carpet posted:Attended a preview screening* of Talk To Me on Monday and it lives up to the hype. Very well directed and shot, with some crunchy gore and Foley. Stuck the ending as well, though I was worried for a few minutes that it wouldn't. Good acting from the leads too. good to hear If anything I'm surprised A24 picked something this seemingly genre straightforward granted I'm familiar with the filmmakers work since they were youtubers of all things
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Jul 27, 2023 12:10
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Justin Godscock posted:Crazy how we from thinking Halloween 2018 was a fantastic reboot that could have served as a great conclusion to the series if they did just that. I did NOT think that, don't put that evil on me.
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Jul 27, 2023 12:40
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NikkolasKing posted:This seems to be a common trend with new trilogies of beloved franchises. Rankings, you say!? Halloween (78) Zombie’s Halloween 2 Halloween (18) H20 Halloween 6 Halloween 2 Halloween Kills Halloween 4 Zombie’s Halloween Halloween Ends Halloween Resurrection Halloween 5 I’m sure I’m in the minority for ranking 6 relatively high, but I genuinely like it better than everything below it. It’s a weird mess, but I’ll take weird and messy over dull like most of the others. Also 3 is so different from the others it doesn’t seem meaningful to rank it, but if I did it’d probably be third.
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Jul 27, 2023 12:43
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Jul 27, 2023 12:59
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CelticPredator posted:What’s giving me pause is the complete failure the short alienated was. It failed every festival it went too both in getting in and reception…but I’ve also shown it to other people who dug it and such. And that’s cool. But a lot of people I showed it too responded with a “oh neat” and moved on lol. Which is just the worst reception something could get in my opinion. Didn’t like it or hate it. Just meh. Nothing precludes you from remaking something down the line if it means a lot to you. Lucky Mckee did it with All Cheerleaders Die which was one of his early shorts. Not the same but Malum was also a remake in pretty short order. My unsolicited advice is make what you love, now and always. People know when you haven't.
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Jul 27, 2023 13:27
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NikkolasKing posted:So what is the ranking of the Halloween movies in light of the new trilogy? Halloween Halloween 3 - - - - - - - Halloween (2018) Halloween 2 Halloween Ends - - - - Halloween H20 Halloween Kills - - - Halloween 4 Halloween 5 Halloween 6 Halloween 8 - - - - - - Rob Zombie poo poo
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Jul 27, 2023 13:41
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Halloween(1978) Halloween 2(1981) Zombie's Halloween 2 Halloween 3 Halloween 4 Halloween(2018) Zombie's Halloween Halloween 5 H20 Halloween Ends Halloween Curse of Michael Myers Halloween Resurrection Halloween Kills
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Jul 27, 2023 13:52
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Halloween 2018 Halloween Halloween 4 … I don’t care … RZ Halloween 2 I realized I don’t really care about this franchise. I watched Halloween after a lot of the things it influenced and it didn’t make a big impact on me.
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Jul 27, 2023 14:03
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My favorite part of Halloween 2018 is how they just dumped the "Lauri is Michael's sister" poo poo with a single line "Oh no that's just something someone made up"
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Jul 27, 2023 14:04
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Basebf555 posted:Halloween(1978) You don't like H20? Or do you like Halloween 5 more than most? Just curious as I haven't seen it in a long time. And hey, nice to see some love for 4..I'll always have a special fondness for Halloween 4 cuz of Crazy Loomis and Jamie Lloyd.
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Jul 27, 2023 14:37
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NikkolasKing posted:You don't like H20? Or do you like Halloween 5 more than most? Just curious as I haven't seen it in a long time. It's definitely a bit of both, I don't particularly like H20(especially these days, I think it's aged poorly) and I also like Halloween 5 more than most. And I think you hit on one of the reasons why, which is that it's hard to completely separate it from Halloween 4. I really like 4 and over the years I've typically watched 4 and 5 together because that's how they aired on television. They're pretty much one continuous story, but I definitely have to acknowledge that 5 is clearly not as good as 4.
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Jul 27, 2023 14:42
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flashy_mcflash posted:Nothing precludes you from remaking something down the line if it means a lot to you. Lucky Mckee did it with All Cheerleaders Die which was one of his early shorts. Not the same but Malum was also a remake in pretty short order. My unsolicited advice is make what you love, now and always. People know when you haven't. Yeah, CelticPredator, this is my vote. Realistically you have the passion and the followthrough to have made stuff already, as an adult. You’ve gotten it screened, you’ve made industry contacts (even in a casual way), all of which can’t be said for a lot of people So I believe even if you make a feature and don’t quite feel like you nailed it, you’d have no problem taking a second run at it once you’ve earned a little goodwill, or matured a bit as a filmmaker, or whatever else time will do to your abilities
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Basebf555 posted:It's definitely a bit of both, I don't particularly like H20(especially these days, I think it's aged poorly) and I also like Halloween 5 more than most. And I think you hit on one of the reasons why, which is that it's hard to completely separate it from Halloween 4. I really like 4 and over the years I've typically watched 4 and 5 together because that's how they aired on television. They're pretty much one continuous story, but I definitely have to acknowledge that 5 is clearly not as good as 4. I totally get that. I don't particularly like 5 but it continues Jamie's story/the story of 4 so I also probably like it more than most. It's also why as soon as I saw her dying at the start of 6 I was like "nope." I watched a bit more after that but never finished it when I was on a Halloween binge years ago. It didn't get any better from all I've seen and heard.
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Jul 27, 2023 14:51
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david_a posted:Halloween 2018 imo the original is great from a film appreciation standpoint (early John Carpenter done on a micro budget), and that's what has made it age well. But yeah, everything it did has been done better in the 40 years since.
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Jul 27, 2023 14:53
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shoeberto posted:imo the original is great from a film appreciation standpoint (early John Carpenter done on a micro budget), and that's what has made it age well. But yeah, everything it did has been done better in the 40 years since. Yep as someone who is tepid on slashers anyway but especially came to the original Halloween late I have never appreciated the franchise on anything more than an academic level. Halloween 3 is the only one I genuinely like.
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Jul 27, 2023 14:58
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ok seems to be leaning towards alienated the moopie. I did stupidly have the entire last act take place under the denver airport with lots of monsters and action. So idk lol. But it was just too fun to do.
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Jul 27, 2023 15:01
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gey muckle mowser posted:Rankings, you say!? 1978 2018 Ends Rob Zombie's II 3 4 Rob Zombie's I Kills H:20 2 Resurrection 6 5
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Jul 27, 2023 15:06
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I rewatch the original Halloween every year, it captures the fall vibe in a way only a few other horror movies can. I also love Halloween 3 mostly for Tom Atkins, so that gets rewatched quite a bit. And Halloween 2018 scratches that same fall vibe and I just think it's a fun movie. The rest of the franchise is just kind of background noise for me. When AMC used to do those all-day Halloween marathons I'd put them on and do chores around the house, it was a fun way to spend a fall day.
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Jul 27, 2023 15:09
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Just impossible for me to get into the mindset of someone who saw Halloween in their 20s or 30s after having seen a bunch of other horror/slashers. For me it was one of the very first real horror movies I ever saw(not counting stuff like Ghostbusters or Ernest Scared Stupid) and the images in that movie don't ever lose their power as pure nightmare fuel. The climax above all, where Michael is just methodically hunting Laurie down and she's going house to house screaming for help, then the closet scene etc. etc. Those scenes most definitely featured in my nightmares as a kid.
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Jul 27, 2023 15:10
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I saw Halloween when I was like 12 but even then it wasn’t even my favorite John Carpenter flick. It’s good but if I’m reaching for a John Carpenter it’s probably not even in the top 5 to be honest.
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Jul 27, 2023 15:16
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I didn’t plan it but today marks two years since we did the alienated short. Crazy
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Kills and Ends both had interesting stuff to say, but just kind of mumbled it and forgot to finish what they were saying in several cases
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I need to run the Halloween series, at least the ones I haven't seen, because I'm shamefully missing a lot of ground. Maybe it would be a good October project.
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Original Halloween and Halloween 3 are my only Halloweens I really rate, with 2018 being high too. OG is one of my favorite movies period and 3 I respect for being really interesting with a killer ending. 2018 is cool and I like Kills more than most but I don't really have strong feelings for them, just that I enjoyed them enough. I Do Not Care For Rob Zombie Halloweens and I thought Ends was a massive miss but other than that, shrug.
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Personally, I'm a Halloween 6 guy.
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