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I just rolled credits. Might be my favorite game ever. Easily the longest I've ever put into a single player game. I know there's some side quests I didn't do and I may eventually go back to them but now I'm just really satisfied with where I ended. The crazy thing is that I didn't even like breath of the wild very much. The tool set here is what really took it over the top for me compared to that game. Would definitely play whatever DLC they throw out there. Stray observations: 1. Rock hammers need to last longer. If you need to set them at low damage that's fine, they don't do that much in the later game anyway. But the fact that every rock pile also needs five rusty swords in it because it knows that's how many hammers you need kind of indicates this might be a little annoying. 2. I spent a lot of time in the gloom early on. I went really far in a lot of different directions and kind of just hosed around with the zonai devices. I was pleasantly surprised by how much cool stuff was actually hidden down there when it first seemed like just a barren dark bonus level. Also it turns out that the item I was searching for all game was hidden in one of the first places I stumbled across (and died in). 3. I never figured out what the star pieces are for. Is it just for upgrading weapons? 4. The one thing I will say about this game that doesn't live up to past Zelda games is the boss fight experience. There were some unique and cool ones but only one of the temple bosses was really great and the final bosses were kind of meh. But there is one boss fight that is so silly and referential that I couldn't help but love it Why is no one talking about how the 5th sage fight is an exploding barbed wire deathmatch? It even has a bell ringing at the beginning! 5. The number of moments in this game that had me grinning like an idiot is too high to count. Most notably the moment mentioned in the last paragraph. Also there were quite a few shrines and other zonai related things that really hit quite nicely. 6. I would say the shrines overall are pretty interesting! I would say I like 90% of them that I played (124 cleared), 8% weren't great but were quick, and 2% really overstayed their welcome and weren't great to begin with. A lot of the shrines I'm missing are just the ones that you need to bring the crystal to the shrine. I just don't like carrying the crystal around. And speaking of things I don't really enjoy transporting... 7. The korok transport challenges had a chance to be really unique but for the most part seem to be shuttling a korok down a road that is perfectly accessible by walking. It seems that those challenges would have benefited from a more robust set of zonai devices but who really cares, they're a fun diversion while you want to do them. I think that's a lot of the ethos of this game- If you like a task there's usually a lot of it to do but if not you can just ignore it. I really liked the other checklist tasks though. Putting up President Hudson signs was fun enough that the crappy rewards still weren't a bother. 8. I don't really mind having to watch the same cutscene with mild variation multiple times. What I do mind is that my character keeps all of that information to themselves at times when it would be crucial to the conversation he's having. The stories you chase for the news pelican (albatross?) come to mind. I did a lot of them after I had a piece of information that was very very relevant to them and Link just stands there dumbfounded while people tell him things he knows aren't true. 9. Add this to the long long list of games where I failed to build a good house. My house was so ugly I hated going near it and I don't think I ever displayed anything there despite originally intending to. 10. Apparently my wife was aware of the shark character from the first game. She was pleased to learn that he made a return. 11. Hyrule is full of perverts but the bubbulfrog guy is King Pervert. He's probably related to the guy that lived inside the toilet in Majora's mask.
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Jul 27, 2023 14:22
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Docjowles posted:As a fellow player who lets his 6 year old take the wheel unsupervised, I feel this. Do you also enjoy coming back to 2 damage sticks fused to extremely rare high damage parts “because it’s really good!”? I’ve had many conversations with my six year old to not do anything crazy like that so we made some parameters. For example, no selling armor. As a result, I’ve done some things that I normally wouldn’t do. For example, I decide to upgrade a lot of armor to the max so that she can basically have a pretty enjoyable experience because her combat skills are obviously not that great .she does lament, though that she misses the ancient horse armor .
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Jul 27, 2023 14:30
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The only shrine I didn't like so far is the one called "The Hunt" where it sets you up to put zonai weapons on little robots but I couldn't get to the parts without alerting all the constructs.
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Jul 27, 2023 14:37
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Benagain posted:I mean if she wanders enough you can do both of those without going to Hyrule castle. Yeah, that's how I found both of them and got the "oh you already did everything" dialogue, but it's unlikely.
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Jul 27, 2023 14:39
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zimbomonkey posted:11. Hyrule is full of perverts but the bubbulfrog guy is King Pervert. He's probably related to the guy that lived inside the toilet in Majora's mask. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - Hyrule is full of perverts
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Jul 27, 2023 16:27
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Item Getter posted:Yeah, that's how I found both of them and got the "oh you already did everything" dialogue, but it's unlikely. I don't think finding the Master Sword is unlikely without hitting up Hyrule Castle, though. The questline there is practically laid across your path, and all over the UI. Finding the Spirit Temple a little less so, but I also stumbled across it out of ordinary map inquisitiveness leading into its questline before deciding I didn't want to "sequence break" on my first playthrough. Personally, my biggest regret was that I was way too scared of the Depths early on, and put off exploring down there for much too long. Also running into the Floating Coliseum first, and assuming that all of them were like that, so I avoided entering them all until last week.
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Jul 27, 2023 16:53
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maltesh posted:I don't think finding the Master Sword is unlikely without hitting up Hyrule Castle, though. The questline there is practically laid across your path, and all over the UI. Yeah, the Master Sword is easy without the castle; all you have to do is get all the geoglyphs. I think some people have used various jank but legit methods to get to where you can get it without even that. And the Spirit Temple quest can be kicked off early whenever you feel like exploring the permathunderstorm
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Jul 27, 2023 17:18
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Runcible Cat posted:Yeah, the Master Sword is easy without the castle; all you have to do is get all the geoglyphs. I think some people have used various jank but legit methods to get to where you can get it without even that.
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Jul 27, 2023 17:32
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You don't even need to do that - simply go to Korok Forest and kill the phantom Ganon and the light dragon starts flying low enough to reach from a tower.
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Jul 27, 2023 17:34
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e:  ^^^Oxyclean posted:You can just figure out how to get into the lost woods and save the deku tree. He tells you the sword is on the move and doesn't know what that means, but you can just go launch into the sky and get it. I think I had seen enough geoglyphs to understand what was going on, but hadn't finished them. I did it in the "correct" order, but doesn't finishing the glyphs bring the light dragon down to a more attainable altitude? Or maybe she does go lower sometimes, I don't think I saw her between the intro and finishing the glyphs, though.
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Jul 27, 2023 17:35
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I had already photographed the light dragon who was not one of the returning three, and also did the geoglyphs out of order so I already saw Zelda talk about becoming a dragon So that wasn't a big reveal for me.
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Jul 27, 2023 17:35
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zimbomonkey posted:Stray observations: 1. agreed although tbh I usually just use Yunobo and/or bomb arrows if I have to destroy a huge rear end wall that's going to eat multiple hammers 4. Hey I just posted about that boss the other day  Agreed it was very funny, was not expecting that AT ALL7. Yeah if it pans over to the smoke plume and it's more than like 1 minute away, that little pipsqueak is on his own 8. It does get really really old hearing people go welp Zelda is the absolute paragon of virtue in this world, beloved by all, and would never ever do anything bad. But she just came by and killed my dog, hosed my wife, burned down our house and called me a liberal cuck so I guess she's evil now. No other possible explanation  Like god drat guys can noone in Hyrule do one iota of critical thinking? (no, they cannot)
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Jul 27, 2023 17:36
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Captain Hygiene posted:e: I know I got it before the last two glyphs, but I think that's how you're supposed to do it? I don't think Gannon's second glyph appears until you complete the others or get the mastersword
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Jul 27, 2023 17:37
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Docjowles posted:1. agreed although tbh I usually just use Yunobo and/or bomb arrows if I have to destroy a huge rear end wall that's going to eat multiple hammers He's got too much force but yes.
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Jul 27, 2023 17:37
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Obviously Tingle is the worst Hyrule pervert, but who are our other favorites over the years? Tingle Koltin Kilton Princess Ruto Beedle Happy Mask Salesman Music Box Guy Map Fish Malanya (I hate this loving thing) Addison I think the Well Lady is getting off on these deep damp holes and is involving Link in a weird way, but seems otherwise nice about it. I’m sure there’s a bunch of weirdos in the various GameBoy Zelda’s I’m forgetting, but it’s been too long since I played those.
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Jul 27, 2023 17:50
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I mean, the great fairies in BotW and TotK are clearly the worst perverts of them all.
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Jul 27, 2023 17:55
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I called the frog suit the pervert outfit for the longest time because it has those gross shoes with individual toes. Then I got the Tingle outfit that gives you a speed bonus at night for creeping in the dark.
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Jul 27, 2023 17:57
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Coxswain Balls posted:I called the frog suit the pervert outfit for the longest time because it has those gross shoes with individual toes. I love the frog suit and its disgusting squish noises when you run. It's absolutely for nasty perverts like me
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Jul 27, 2023 18:03
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yiga spoilers I did the yiga infiltration quest, it was super fun trying to find the hideouts Also the whole sequence once you're inside was just plain awesome. kinda wish i didn't have the existence of this quest spoiled for me, just rolling up on the yiga hideout and finding out you can infiltrate it would have been an amazing suprise. But I probably wouldn't have remembered it/thought about going there if it wasn't for seeing youtube clips of ppl inside the yiga hideout. Also the yiga dialog changes a lot once you've finished the master kohga questline which was a fun surprise. I also killed the colliseum thunder gleeok. This was the first gleeok i fought without just using a spring over and over again. Ascending up through the colliseum and jumping down to shoot it was a lot of fun.
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Jul 27, 2023 18:12
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So after roaming the land and doing most of the shrines I'm finally investigating some Regional Phenomena. For my first two, I did the Rito Village and the Zora village. The reward for the first is pretty helpful, but I'm struggling to see much use for the second. Tulin can extend my air travel time, which comes in handy everywhere! And he seems to get critical shots on a fairly frequent basis. I can even ignore weak enemies like chuchus and let him take care of them. Sidon, on the other hand... doesn't seem to fight unless I very deliberately ignore an enemy strong enough to survive a couple of Tulin's arrow volleys, and I've not spotted anything to do with the water shot. Am I not thinking creatively enough (or not finding the relevant spots) to make use of him? Just a yes/no to "is there something I'm missing" is fine if detailing his uses would spoil something else.
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Jul 27, 2023 18:32
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Akratic Method posted:So after roaming the land and doing most of the shrines I'm finally investigating some Regional Phenomena. For my first two, I did the Rito Village and the Zora village. The reward for the first is pretty helpful, but I'm struggling to see much use for the second. Tulin can extend my air travel time, which comes in handy everywhere! And he seems to get critical shots on a fairly frequent basis. I can even ignore weak enemies like chuchus and let him take care of them. Sidon, on the other hand... doesn't seem to fight unless I very deliberately ignore an enemy strong enough to survive a couple of Tulin's arrow volleys, and I've not spotted anything to do with the water shot. Am I not thinking creatively enough (or not finding the relevant spots) to make use of him? Just a yes/no to "is there something I'm missing" is fine if detailing his uses would spoil something else. By end game, Sidon was by far my most critical sage, so yeah, you're missing something. Spoiler just in case, but it's really just mechanical: Using his ability grants you the WET status which doubles the power of Zora weapons. edit: vvvv lol vvvv
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Jul 27, 2023 18:34
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Akratic Method posted:So after roaming the land and doing most of the shrines I'm finally investigating some Regional Phenomena. For my first two, I did the Rito Village and the Zora village. The reward for the first is pretty helpful, but I'm struggling to see much use for the second. Tulin can extend my air travel time, which comes in handy everywhere! And he seems to get critical shots on a fairly frequent basis. I can even ignore weak enemies like chuchus and let him take care of them. Sidon, on the other hand... doesn't seem to fight unless I very deliberately ignore an enemy strong enough to survive a couple of Tulin's arrow volleys, and I've not spotted anything to do with the water shot. Am I not thinking creatively enough (or not finding the relevant spots) to make use of him? Just a yes/no to "is there something I'm missing" is fine if detailing his uses would spoil something else. Yeah unfortunately that one is by far the most useless of them at base. Its only real gimmick is letting you power up Zora weapons for free at any time
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Jul 27, 2023 18:35
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No the most useless sage is the last one. Both because it's a disappointment how horrible it is at combat compared to how you'd imagine it would be and how much it lags the game whenever it's around All it needed to be even somewhat average is to do something like not use durability on attachments so that I had a reason to use zonai devices with it or even just equip it with good weapons.
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Jul 27, 2023 18:41
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Docjowles posted:1. agreed although tbh I usually just use Yunobo and/or bomb arrows if I have to destroy a huge rear end wall that's going to eat multiple hammers I tend to use Riju; Cooldown's longer than Yunobo, I think, but she's easier to aim and doesn't expend a resource like bomb arrows. Edit: The final sage is pretty good for a quick jaunt across Gloom, which is what I wind up using her most often for. Also beam emitters seem to last quite a long time on her, if not being particularly damaging. maltesh fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Jul 27, 2023 |
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Jul 27, 2023 18:42
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Yeah but that gimmick kicks rear end. If you fuse up a good zora weapon you can get insane damage. Also someone pointed out that if you wear the froggy suit it massively increases how long you count as "wet" for the buff. The bubble also absorbs the damage of one hit which isn't incredible but it's not nothing, especially on monsters that hit like trucks.
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Jul 27, 2023 18:42
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Gwely Mernans posted:No the most useless sage is the last one. Both because it's a disappointment how horrible it is at combat compared to how you'd imagine it would be and how much it lags the game whenever it's around I use it all the time to break boxes and mineral deposits. Works on the lil deposits that you find around boko camps in the depths, but not like, walls or holes full o' zonaite.
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Jul 27, 2023 18:57
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maltesh posted:I tend to use Riju; Cooldown's longer than Yunobo, I think, but she's easier to aim and doesn't expend a resource like bomb arrows. Not related to the sage, but the trick to beam emitters is they do a lot more damage on the initial hit than they do per second while constantly hitting an enemy. I have a homing construct with two wheels with like ten beam/frost emitters pointing at the ground at an angle. It does like ten times the DPS I do with strong weapons and just erases entire camps in seconds.
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Jul 27, 2023 19:02
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Related to rock breaking talk, the point of the final sage is always having two cannons equipped so you can blast your way though the big chunks of blocked caves. Except for the few frustrating spots that are too tight to pull Mineru out.
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Jul 27, 2023 19:16
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Docjowles posted:Yeah but that gimmick kicks rear end. If you fuse up a good zora weapon you can get insane damage. Also someone pointed out that if you wear the froggy suit it massively increases how long you count as "wet" for the buff. The bubble also absorbs the damage of one hit which isn't incredible but it's not nothing, especially on monsters that hit like trucks. Frog suit is also easy to upgrade and has surprisingly good defense
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Jul 27, 2023 19:18
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Ah, thanks. I totally forgot about that; I’d only seen one weapon of that type, from a side quest I did for a villager like twelve play hours ago. I try to read the weapon traits since some of them are pretty good, but I’m not sure I ever noticed that one in the first place.
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Jul 27, 2023 21:09
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Was anyone else expecting rauru to be the villain? All of his sages felt like slave robots and hyrule appeared to be the only state with access to nuclear weapons
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Jul 27, 2023 21:13
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No, because this is The Legend of Zelda.
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Jul 27, 2023 21:27
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FunkyAl posted:Was anyone else expecting rauru to be the villain? All of his sages felt like slave robots and helyrile appeared to be the only state with access to nuclear weapons Not remotely.
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Jul 27, 2023 21:48
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No because he doesn't have a lust for power he just has an extreme and obvious lust for everyone
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Jul 27, 2023 21:53
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Raposa posted:No, because this is The Legend of Zelda. There's all kinds of "dark hyrule" stuff implied in the other games. King or red lions is an obvious parallel to ganondorf, Twilight princess has a mirror version of the royal family that's all about incest and military conquest, the basic plot to a link to the past is that an evil prime minister is using the military resources of hyrule for his plan. This game is full of wells, the obvious comparison being the torture chambers hidden in the subconscious well of kakakiro village. Except here the wells lead to gigantic abandoned mines staffed by robots or monsters. Everything that exists floating above was a gigantic mining effort below. That's in the game, I just don't know why it's not developed further.
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Jul 27, 2023 22:07
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FunkyAl posted:This game is full of wells, the obvious comparison being the torture chambers hidden in the subconscious well of kakakiro village. they’re holes in the ground that are used to store and draw out water op
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Jul 27, 2023 23:05
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FunkyAl posted:That's in the game, I just don't know why it's not developed further. Because that's an insane place to take it.
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Jul 27, 2023 23:19
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i also thought That Guy might be bad because i saw a thumbnail on youtube that suggested that he was going to transform at some point so i was like 'HMMMM'
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Jul 28, 2023 00:04
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If Rauru was going to be a villain why would ghost Rauru graft his arm onto you at the beginning of the game? Personally I thought Mineru was gonna be the betrayer, because of jealousy or something. But no, the story was simply entirely devoid of intrigue.
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Jul 28, 2023 00:22
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I mean, has ANY Zelda game had the twist where a genuinely benevolent-seeming character was revealed to the player to be evil all along?
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