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Wheeee posted:kirkpatrick is a shitweasel who can seemingly only communicate in duplicitous lawyerspeak
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Jul 28, 2023 18:41
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lmao get hosed Kirkpatrick. I like how in the same paragraph that he says the committee has not requested updates from AARO he also says that AARO has briefed the committee since the last NDAA. He also says AARO has the authorities and resources necessary to investigate when we know for a fact they only have Title 10 and SAP stuff is Title 50. What a crock of poo poo. Edit: Also Grusch has never claimed he worked for AARO, he worked for the precursor group. Kirkpatrick outright lies and says he claimed he worked for AARO in testimony. I hope they do that rule on Kirkpatrick to fire him.
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Jul 28, 2023 18:43
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Leslie Keane has apparently confirmed that Col. Karl Nell is one of Grusch's witnesses. Worked for Lockheed-Martin and Northrop-Grumman. I love this his name is literally Colonel Colonel.
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Jul 28, 2023 18:48
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Does the AARO have a law enforcement function? It doesn't seem like it from the legislation.
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Jul 28, 2023 18:48
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D-Pad posted:It at least implies there is a decent chance that there is other life out there that is DNA based which has not previously been taken as a given So you're saying that the origin story of humanity as told in the liner notes of an early GWAR album whose name eludes me could actually be true?
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Jul 28, 2023 18:51
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Aside from the criticism of AARO, Kirkpatrick is upset that Grusch (and Graves/Fravor by extension) haven't spoken with AARO re: the alleged harassment. This lines up if Grusch suspects AARO of being compromised, he wouldn't want to give them details that they can then pass along to the MiBs* (shorthand for whoever's doing the intimidating) for them to clean up their tracks.
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Jul 28, 2023 18:51
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its true its true you never quite know where them mibs is at
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Jul 28, 2023 18:52
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SKULL.GIF posted:Aside from the criticism of AARO, Kirkpatrick is upset that Grusch (and Graves/Fravor by extension) haven't spoken with AARO re: the alleged harassment. iirc, it was suspected from day 1 that AARO was a catch and kill organization and I've not seen anything thus far to make me think otherwise
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Jul 28, 2023 18:52
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Gen. Jenna Rall when?
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Jul 28, 2023 18:53
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men in black three was soft disclosure of the fact that barak obama was a manchurian candidate baby raised by gus grissom
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Jul 28, 2023 18:57
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im_sorry posted:So you're saying that the origin story of humanity as told in the liner notes of an early GWAR album whose name eludes me could actually be true? Anything GWAR have ever told you is absolutely true. They were Disclosure before disclosure was a thing.
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Jul 28, 2023 18:58
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balance of probability is that all of the UFO stories that have emerged since the 1940s are in fact mostly if not entirely true
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Jul 28, 2023 18:58
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Brain Curry posted:Gen. Jenna Rall when? Hello Colonial Kernel, I'm Major Indifference.
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Jul 28, 2023 18:59
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bedpan posted:balance of probability is that all of the UFO stories that have emerged since the 1940s are in fact mostly if not entirely true BIGFOOTS TOO Jersey Devil? Gonna put that fella in the 'probably' pile, personally Springheel Jack was an op though. A Victorian op
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Jul 28, 2023 19:01
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moving all the vhs and DVD boxes for alien movies to the documentary section of the video store
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Jul 28, 2023 19:02
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bedpan posted:balance of probability is that all of the UFO stories that have emerged since the 1940s are in fact mostly if not entirely true sure is a lot of alien sex stuff on this list of ufo encounters and abductions
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Jul 28, 2023 19:04
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Barry Foster posted:Anything GWAR have ever told you is absolutely true. They were Disclosure before disclosure was a thing. I witnessed GWAR perform an alien autopsy in Tempe, AZ in 1995 at the Electric Ballroom. Got soaked in all the sweet sweet alien juices. It was amazing. Former goon Lick Joe was beside me to also witness the event.
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Jul 28, 2023 19:07
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Barry Foster posted:Anything GWAR have ever told you is absolutely true. They were Disclosure before disclosure was a thing. Including "Now my hand grasps my throbbing root and shant unclasp. Go to the head of the class, as I madly stroke my flaccid shaft"? About summarizes my reaction to all this disclosure, only without the flaccid part.
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Jul 28, 2023 19:09
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Aragosta posted:I witnessed GWAR perform an alien autopsy in Tempe, AZ in 1995 at the Electric Ballroom. Got soaked in all the sweet sweet alien juices. It was amazing. Former goon Lick Joe was beside me to also witness the event. You are blessed in a way few of us can boast. Personally I'm jealous of all the goons itt who have seen triangles, orbs, enormous cylinders (lol), and have been consecrated in GWAR's alien goop. im_sorry posted:Including "Now my hand grasps my throbbing root and shant unclasp. Go to the head of the class, as I madly stroke my flaccid shaft"?  mags posted:sure is a lot of alien sex stuff on this list of ufo encounters and abductions Sex has always been a potent element of encounters with the numinous
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Jul 28, 2023 19:11
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Financial Times did an in-depth feature on UFOs and Grusch: https://www.ft.com/content/5235af64-9646-4c50-8d7c-93f7f04f7bb6 Goes through Grusch but also Fravor, Loeb, and Corbell. Surprisingly even-handed overall, especially about the Grusch hearing, but does still fall victim to the usual Anglocentric selection bias ("For now, without evidence, we are left to use logic. Why would UFO sightings be concentrated in the US?")
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Jul 28, 2023 19:11
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skooma512 posted:I don't have recurring dreams but I do have recurring locations. Me too. Some of them make me pretty sad too, it's places stuck in time. sharknado slashfic posted:My recurring dream motifs are tornados, snakes (separately, not a snakenado), and my dead grandfather being there (alive) and my family acting like it's normal and me being the only one who remembered he died. Pie in the Sky posted:The first dream I can ever remember having was a nightmare I had when I was maybe 4. It was an apocalyptic cityscape and there was this mad scientist-type bad guy and he had a person strapped to a slanted gurney and he had their brain in a vat above their head. Everything was tinted green.
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Jul 28, 2023 19:11
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lot of doubt in the thread today it’s real, and it’s weird
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Jul 28, 2023 19:19
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Out of boredom I've decided to compile a list of possible explanations for UAP phenomenon. This can be done by breaking it down into broad categories, then into subcategories. Start from 2 points. A. The nature of the phenomenon, and B. The party responsible. So for the nature of the thing, consider (real vs hoax) if real then (physical vs psychic), if physical then (hologram lasers vs real craft) For the party responsible, (Human vs non human) if human then (our reality vs alternate reality vs time traveler) if non human then (terrestrial vs alien) if alien then ( physical universe vs other dimension) if other dimension then ( higher reality vs alternate reality). For the sake of brevity, when categories overlap, only the most important will be counted. For example, it's possible it's a hoax being put on by the government using disinformation. That goes on the list. It's also possible it's a hoax being put on by aliens from another planet, who got here in wormholes and are tricking us into thinking they have space ships. That goes into the physical aliens category instead of the hoax category otherwise we'll be here all day. 1. UAP isn't real at all. It's a hoax created by humans using a disinformation campaign in order to (A. Experiment on means of manipulating people and study how ideas propagate thru society. (B. Provide a distraction to a disgruntled populace, and (C. Provide cover for off the books military projects and budgets, for example home grown antigravity or next gen fighters. Note that this wouldn't be orbs or saucers, but rather providing cover for the testing of conventional next gen fighters. 2. UAP isn't real in the sense that it's actually physically created holograms and radar spoofing. Besides A, B, C, from above, also add (D. The US/Russia/China has figured out how to use lasers to project holograms from a great distance away, as well as a method to spoof radar. As a weapon of war, we can make human pilots and electronic sensors see things the aren't there, as well as demoralizing the enemy by making them think you have advanced tech. This could be China stunting on us or a branch of the US military testing it's toys on the other branches. 3. UAP is real, and it's physical ships with advanced technology. Here you have (A. The US has nativly created and is testing flying saucers. (B. An adversary like China has created flying sausers. (C. A third human group like antarctic nazis has created flying saucers (D. Unknown underwater or hollow earth civilization has created flying saucers. (E. Aliens exist on other planets in this universe and have ships that can get here via faster than light travel or wormhole generation, (F. The ships were created by time traveling humans from this earth, with the "aliens" being either future humans or organic robots created by future humans, and (G. Humans or aliens from a parallel reality can create tears and travel to this reality. This has some overlap with (F. Time travel. 4. UAP is real, but is a psychic phenomenon induced in the human brain. Here you have (A. The collective unconscious is real, or some natural phenomenon like naturally occurring radio waves causes hallucinations or altered states in certain people, and the unexplained phenomenon going back centuries from faries to UAP to machine elves to near death experiences are the result of this. (B. Parallel realitys exist, but can't directly cross over or interact with our reality. Whatever probes they are sending thru or whatever tears are being created between realities has a profound effect on human brains. Or psychic phenomenon is real, and they can only travel here and interact in a psychic plane. If other realities exist, you might think of the multiverse as floors in a tower. The staircase between floors is the common psychic or mental plane that can be accessed from any level. For some reason human brains interpret these contacts as physical events observed by thier own senses. (C. Higher realities exist. UAP are literally angels or demons as interpreted by the fragile human mind. I think later I'll create an excel table and post it. Fell Mood has issued a correction as of 19:34 on Jul 28, 2023 |
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Jul 28, 2023 19:22
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there are aliens from our own dimension and entities from other higher dimensions
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Jul 28, 2023 19:23
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pretty sure there is an intentional loophole regarding interdimensional aliens since those neither fly or are aerial. UFOs? Nope these ones don't fly. Aerial? Nope, they are not in the air.
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Jul 28, 2023 19:25
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cynicism is often a rational position to take when it comes to stuff relating to large institutions and particularly governments. but you have to be very careful to not let cynicism, rather than rationality, be the guiding focus of your perspective on things like this. if you stay wedded to cynicism in the face of reasons to think something is genuine, even if it's very wild in its implications, then you're on the path to being the nerd in zombie movies that says "zombies? preposterous! i'm going for my morning constitutional!" and then he walks outside and gets his face eaten. you have to evaluate evidence and then make a decision about what you think, not arrive at a position beforehand. often the evidence is going to be overwhelmingly one way or another and it's easy to make snap judgments that are correct in those cases but it's dumb to get into the habit of making snap judgments. not directed at anyone itt, just seems like outside of this thread that's how people are approaching the hearing and grusch more broadly - falling back into habits of thought that are at least somewhat reliable when you're dealing with everyday political bullshit but which fall apart instantly when applied to something more complex
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Jul 28, 2023 19:27
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Mr. Barnesworth posted:Cryptonaut podcast did an episode on this as well. All Colors Sam is really unsettling for some reason, strikes me as some gooney fae that got booted from Magonia on a sixer. All colours Sam has big chains of the sea energy
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Jul 28, 2023 19:28
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bedpan posted:there are aliens from our own dimension and entities from other higher dimensions yeah it’s a big party and they keep trying to wave to us
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Jul 28, 2023 19:29
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SKULL.GIF posted:Wasn't he requesting more funding and more clearance from Gillibrand at that AARO/Senate hearing a while ago? Did he get it yet? Additional AARO funding is in the defense bill currently wrapping up in Congress.
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Jul 28, 2023 19:31
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 I still won't expect much until September (when Congress reconvenes), the next few weeks won't be exciting.
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Jul 28, 2023 19:33
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Jazerus posted:cynicism is often a rational position to take when it comes to stuff relating to large institutions and particularly governments. but you have to be very careful to not let cynicism, rather than rationality, be the guiding focus of your perspective on things like this. if you stay wedded to cynicism in the face of reasons to think something is genuine, even if it's very wild in its implications, then you're on the path to being the nerd in zombie movies that says "zombies? preposterous! i'm going for my morning constitutional!" and then he walks outside and gets his face eaten. you have to evaluate evidence and then make a decision about what you think, not arrive at a position beforehand. often the evidence is going to be overwhelmingly one way or another and it's easy to make snap judgments that are correct in those cases but it's dumb to get into the habit of making snap judgments. This is well-said and sums up my own position nicely. Learning to be comfortable residing in the uncertainty of the middle, and willing to entertain ideas and evidence without immediately jumping to a capital B belief (and then clinging tightly to it) is really really hard, for goons especially I think (I include myself in this). I think a lot of the world want to be comfortable, and otherwise don't give a poo poo and will ignore anything that threatens that. I think goons (and liberals) tend to want to be Right, and will do almost anything to defend their status of Rightness
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Jul 28, 2023 19:35
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I have absolutely no fear of being wrong
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Jul 28, 2023 19:37
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Jazerus posted:cynicism is often a rational position to take when it comes to stuff relating to large institutions and particularly governments. but you have to be very careful to not let cynicism, rather than rationality, be the guiding focus of your perspective on things like this. if you stay wedded to cynicism in the face of reasons to think something is genuine, even if it's very wild in its implications, then you're on the path to being the nerd in zombie movies that says "zombies? preposterous! i'm going for my morning constitutional!" and then he walks outside and gets his face eaten. you have to evaluate evidence and then make a decision about what you think, not arrive at a position beforehand. often the evidence is going to be overwhelmingly one way or another and it's easy to make snap judgments that are correct in those cases but it's dumb to get into the habit of making snap judgments. It feels a lot like Covid, right down to the numerous bad faith opinions articles (of all political stripes, aimed in all directions). It's a big, complicated, and almost invisible issue that relies on changing your worldview to some extent. It's going to come with a lot of inbuilt bias, and also a lot of interest groups are going to jump in and use any news to push their own hobby horse (and for this, look at all the nut job UFO hoaxers that are crawling out of the woodwork saying "SEEE? I WAS RIGHT!!!")
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Jul 28, 2023 19:37
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Jazerus posted:cynicism is often a rational position to take when it comes to stuff relating to large institutions and particularly governments. but you have to be very careful to not let cynicism, rather than rationality, be the guiding focus of your perspective on things like this. if you stay wedded to cynicism in the face of reasons to think something is genuine, even if it's very wild in its implications, then you're on the path to being the nerd in zombie movies that says "zombies? preposterous! i'm going for my morning constitutional!" and then he walks outside and gets his face eaten. you have to evaluate evidence and then make a decision about what you think, not arrive at a position beforehand. often the evidence is going to be overwhelmingly one way or another and it's easy to make snap judgments that are correct in those cases but it's dumb to get into the habit of making snap judgments. Agreed, don’t let your overwhelming desire for aliens to be real mislead you into believing one random meathead.
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Jul 28, 2023 19:41
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It's real
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Jul 28, 2023 19:45
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Barry Foster posted:You are blessed in a way few of us can boast. Personally I'm jealous of all the goons itt who have seen triangles, orbs, enormous cylinders (lol), and have been consecrated in GWAR's alien goop. People want to gently caress aliens. Even if it was a weird worm they'd want to gently caress it. They got people out there man
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Jul 28, 2023 19:45
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porfiria posted:Agreed, don’t let your overwhelming desire for aliens to be real mislead you into believing one random meathead. lmao
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Jul 28, 2023 19:47
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It should get more exciting if we actually start seeing more corroborating witnesses come forward.
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Jul 28, 2023 19:50
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SKULL.GIF posted:I have absolutely no fear of being wrong It's not bad to be wrong. Even when you're wrong, it's interesting to find out just how wrong you actually were.
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Jul 28, 2023 19:50
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im_sorry posted:It's not bad to be wrong. Even when you're wrong, it's interesting to find out just how wrong you actually were. 
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