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Sapozhnik posted:yea i meant that dxvk is an important part of how you run windows games on linux, although as mentioned above it can be usefully on windows as well. just not on nvidia hardware Mr. Crow posted:dxvk does or does not work for directx12? Or is vulkan doing the directx12 translations directly (if the programmers did do it natively)?
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dxvk and vkd3d were two separate projects started roughly at the same time. dxvk was created to replace wine’s mostly non-functional D3D10/11 implementation on OpenGL with something that worked and was built on Vulkan. vkd3d was a fresh D3D12 implementation because wine didn’t support that at all. note that Steam uses their own fork called vkd3d-proton which basically is unrelated to vkd3d at this point also dxvk has grown a D3D9 implementation to replace wine’s existing OpenGL based implementation switching topics, the Linux graphics stack is broadly similar to the structure of both Windows and macOS and basically every other platform — a hardware-agnostic library talks to a hardware-specific library that talks to a hardware-specific kernel driver and/or memory mapped hardware directly, and the kernel driver is assisted by a generic hardware-agnostic driver. open source drivers use one driver stack, nvidia has written their entirely separate driver stack that doesn’t use any of the open source components except at the highest possible level— the X server and the OpenGL and Vulkan ICDs this is one of the reasons Wayland has had very slow adoption; the various Wayland compositors rely on the Linux native open source graphics stack to e.g. change monitor resolution, which nvidia has refused to implement because they already have an X driver and dgaf pseudorandom name fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Jul 26, 2023 |
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pseudorandom name posted:also dxvk has grown a D3D9 implementation to replace wine’s existing OpenGL based implementation there's a d8vk layer now too, and it even emulates the Nvidia hardware shadow buffers from the geforce 4 era that a couple of splinter cell games need, essentially resurrecting them from the dead
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idk if chomeos does much anything with drivers, but how the hell is this overpowered chomebook with a goddamn i5 having issues playing 1080p video if hardware acceleration is on, twitch will reliably freeze for ~30s while still downloading video chunks, repeatedly. disabling hardware acceleration not only fixes this, it makes the machine run much, much cooler i woulda thought intel hd graphics would be like, _the_ graphics to be stable as hell under linux
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maybe something incredibly dumb like live transcoding from one mp4 format to another mp4 format so that the hardware accelerator can actually understand it, rather than just decoding the dumb thing with software and going from there
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Qtotonibudinibudet posted:idk if chomeos does much anything with drivers, but how the hell is this overpowered chomebook with a goddamn i5 having issues playing 1080p video chromebooks are where all the engineering talent behind android tablets ended up. do you have any further questions
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Sapozhnik posted:flat design is what happens when you have to work on arbitrary display DPIs that aren't an integer multiple of 96 nah, apple went flat in macos a couple years after they started shipping @2x displays and committed to only doing integer multiples. they don't have to do arbitrary and they still shot themselves / users in the foot! flat design is what happens when your ui designers follow the worst ui fashion trends and keep doubling down on them as they disappear further up their own asses
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you just don't understand the genius of low-contrast monochrome abstract line drawings
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Qtotonibudinibudet posted:i woulda thought intel hd graphics would be like, _the_ graphics to be stable as hell under linux you'd be right if it was still 2013, but somehow the intel gpu situation seems to have been completely abandoned since then the drivers still work, but they often seem no better or worse than in 2013, which also means they often don't support anything new since 2013 besides the bare basics of "does your monitor turn on on new hardware". all that said, i don't think browser videos specifically are intel's fault because when you're talking about playing youtube or twitch videos in a browser, most laptops i've seen in the last couple years will start sweating as gently caress and spin the fans when taken to these websites, apart from macs that solved the problem by simply not having a fan. if you use an external player it'll stay silent just fine regardless of hardware codec support, but if you open it in a browser you get murdered by fan noise as thanks for your tracking data i guess. and this isn't limited to linux
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didn't firefox not have hardware video acceleration under linux for several years until it got it again recently or am I just making that up?
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native video players (on windows) upload compressed video to the GPU which gets decompressed into a plane that gets scanned out directly without involving the compositor or powering up the 3D engine browsers have to decompress the video to a texture, convert the format, and then composite it into their own scene graph for the page, also there’s a bunch of JavaScript orchestrating this at multiple points in the process
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mystes posted:didn't firefox not have hardware video acceleration under linux for several years until it got it again recently or am I just making that up? yes, i think the recent development there was on by default with intel, but it has been working for a while
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Truga posted:when you're talking about playing youtube or twitch videos in a browser, most laptops i've seen in the last couple years will start sweating as gently caress and spin the fans when taken to these websites, apart from macs that solved the problem by simply not having a fan. if you use an external player it'll stay silent just fine regardless of hardware codec support, but if you open it in a browser you get murdered by fan noise as thanks for your tracking data i guess. and this isn't limited to linux browser video extra complications aside, this is the difference between browser video with hw acceleration and without. the browser video part is still the same
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i was checking out what other WMs there were in wayland, as one does, and saw one called "hyprland" that had looked pretty good going by the screenshots. it was a pretty quick evaluation since the default background is an anime. switched back to gnome
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harsh, but fair. you can never be too careful.
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there's also just HYPR for x11
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thanks for all the linux video driver effortposts i like using a macbook pro because of apple home and apple pay via safari and imessage and the messages app using my phone to let me type sms/mms with my laptop keyboard, and nice iphone and apple watch integration and how fantastic the apple silicon chips are (m1 pro in my mbp) but i really do miss using linux on a laptop full time, now just relegated to my home and work desktops (ironically my work desktop is a 10-year-old imac running kubuntu 22.04)
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Lysidas posted:but i really do miss using linux on a laptop full time, now just relegated to my home and work desktops (ironically my work desktop is a 10-year-old imac running kubuntu 22.04) surrender to your inner shaggar and your mbp will have been running linux all along
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Soricidus posted:surrender to your inner shaggar and your mbp will have been running linux all along weird way to spell "windows 11"
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Progressive JPEG posted:i was checking out what other WMs there were in wayland, as one does, and saw one called "hyprland" that had looked pretty good going by the screenshots. it was a pretty quick evaluation since the default background is an anime. switched back to gnome I’d do one of those multiple pass hard drive wipes to sanitize your computer after downloading that
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akadajet posted:I’d do one of those multiple pass hard drive wipes to sanitize your computer after downloading that
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durr
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Nice racism and xenophobia folks.
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Soricidus posted:surrender to your inner shaggar and your mbp will have been running linux all along or inner steve jobs 
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osx is a linux
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Shaggar posted:osx is a linux osx is just linux with working sound drivers.
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Lysidas posted:(ironically my work desktop is a 10-year-old imac running kubuntu 22.04) same, except debian because prod is also debian so why not. the screen's decent so i took it, and the oldness doesn't matter because everything i work with happens on other machines now lol
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mycophobia posted:Nice racism and xenophobia folks.
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the best laptop experience is to use it as a remote desktop viewer so you can close it and get more beer for a while as things happen elsewhere on teal computers mac/win/linux is kinda irrelevant imo
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fresh_cheese posted:the best laptop experience is to use it as a remote desktop viewer so you can close it and get more beer for a while as things happen elsewhere on teal computers
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mystes posted:g3 Mac im sorry i said a real computer
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yeah, get a power mac and get those extra drives going
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fresh_cheese posted:im sorry i said a real computer
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oh. my bad. carry on then.
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tbh you could probably be pretty productive on a g3 imac
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would there be a productivity difference between teal vs tangerine or grape? i would think the red/strawberry would have to be fastest
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no question, the graphite imac dv was the proest looking crt imac. therefore the fastest
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