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Rock Puncher
Jul 26, 2014
market based solutions to the human problem have proven to be very efficient

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Danru
May 23, 2022


The entire state of Arizona is off the scale lol, I think this roughly translates to potential 125F-130F (51C-54C) temps. Maybe higher?

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

so at what point does a sane adult with children make the decision to move?

also what does the white spot mean exactly

Dog Case
Oct 7, 2003

Heeelp meee... prevent wildfires

Koirhor posted:



also what does the white spot mean exactly

3.6 roentgens

Danru
May 23, 2022

Koirhor posted:

so at what point does a sane adult with children make the decision to move?

also what does the white spot mean exactly

If I understand this it's a representation of where, in terms of height, the atmospheric pressure is 500mb. In this case, at 6000m above the state of Arizona around August 7th.

Tldr: Very strong pressure ridge, like off the scale, implies much higher than average temperature. Average temp for Phoenix on Aug 7 is 87F - 105F

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The Relationship Between the 500 mb Height Pattern and Air Temperature

We will now use the 500 mb height contour pattern to estimate the pattern of air temperature. The height of the 500 mb surface is related to the temperature of the atmosphere below 500 mb -- the higher the temperature, the higher the height of the 500 mb level. In other words, the 500 mb height at any point on the map tells us about the average air temperature in the vertical column of air between the ground surface and the 500 mb height plotted at that point. The height pattern tells us where the air is relatively cold and where it is relatively warm (see 500 mb side view.) As a vertical column of air warms up (temperature increases), it expands upward, which raises the 500 mb height. Conversely, as a vertical column of air cools down (temperature decreases), it compacts downward, which lowers the 500 mb height. Therefore air pressure decreases more slowly as you ascend through a warm column of air, compared to a cold column of air . (See Figure showing air expands when warmed and contracts when cooled).

Consider what the 500 mb height contour pattern would look like if air temperatures decreased steadily from the equator toward the north pole. (Note this is what you might guess based on the fact that the Sun's heating is strongest toward the south and weakest toward the north.) In that case the height contours would be concentric circles around the north pole with the highest heights to the south (toward the equator). While this is generally true (e.g., the general decrease in 500 mb height from south to north depicted on the map above), the actual pattern at any given time is wavy (e.g., as on the map above). Where the height lines bow northward (a ridge), warm air has moved north; and where the height lines bow southward (a trough), cold air has moved south. Therefore, in general warmer than average temperatures can be expected underneath ridges and colder than average temperatures can be expected underneath troughs (See Figure). The more pronounced the ridge (or trough), the more above (or below) average the temperatures will be.

Danru has issued a correction as of 23:45 on Jul 28, 2023

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
that seems incompatible with human life

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Toilet Rascal
more than phoenix already is, anyways

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


Koirhor posted:

so at what point does a sane adult with children make the decision to move?

also what does the white spot mean exactly

i mean like ideally way before this

Aragosta
May 12, 2001

hiding in plain sight

Jizzny Princess posted:

Within just 12 hours its grown almost 4 times its original size

https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1684856313539645440


This is awesome, hoping our evaporative cooler can keep up. I might have to go borrow a rolling A/C unit from a buddy temporarily permanently. This year living in Northern Arizona has felt like when I lived in Phoenix in the mid/late 90's.

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

Jizzny Princess posted:

Within just 12 hours its grown almost 4 times its original size

https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1684856313539645440

Looks like things got better for the PNW so crisis averted for now?

Hit Man
Mar 6, 2008

I hope after I die people will say of me: "That guy sure owed me a lot of money."

We're gonna need more refrigerated containers

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

Hit Man posted:

We're gonna need more refrigerated containers

i'm imagining a situation where hundreds of distraught people are begging to be allowed to take refuge in the refrigerated containers brought in by FEMA for the overwhelming number of heat death corpses. Big rows of riot police keeping them away though. They're only allowed in after they die.

celadon
Jan 2, 2023

Stereotype posted:

i'm imagining a situation where hundreds of distraught people are begging to be allowed to take refuge in the refrigerated containers brought in by FEMA for the overwhelming number of heat death corpses. Big rows of riot police keeping them away though. They're only allowed in after they die.

thats some catch, that catch-22

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Stereotype posted:

i'm imagining a situation where hundreds of distraught people are begging to be allowed to take refuge in the refrigerated containers brought in by FEMA for the overwhelming number of heat death corpses. Big rows of riot police keeping them away though. They're only allowed in after they die.

Riot police, like people in black armor and helmets standing in the sun shoving people and running?

:thunk:

They should call all of them in to protect the reefer cars. Someone poor might enjoy the cool air therein! oh no not the briar patch!

OIL PANIC
Dec 22, 2022

CAUTIONS
...
4. ... (If the battery is exhausted, the display of the liquid crystal will become vague and difficult to look at.)
...
7. Do not use volatile oils such as thinner or benzine and alcohol for wiping.
oh. the humanity.

Spoondick
Jun 9, 2000

what if the riot police get heat stroke and die

Hit Man
Mar 6, 2008

I hope after I die people will say of me: "That guy sure owed me a lot of money."

How and why would you stop a riot in 117°f? Like what in Phoenix is worth protecting

Puppy Burner
Sep 9, 2011

Hit Man posted:

How and why would you stop a riot in 117°f? Like what in Phoenix is worth protecting

Investment properties duh

celadon
Jan 2, 2023

how would you even riot in 117 degree weather? like the attrition rate would just be bonkers high

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



Jizzny Princess posted:

Within just 12 hours its grown almost 4 times its original size

https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1684856313539645440

what does that graph mean in terms of actual temperatures

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

celadon posted:

how would you even riot in 117 degree weather? like the attrition rate would just be bonkers high

you'd have to wait until night time when it's only 105 degrees

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Spoondick posted:

what if the riot police get heat stroke and die

riot police will get stillsuits before any lifts a finger to help the poor

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
lol

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
lol

Danru
May 23, 2022

triple sulk posted:

what does that graph mean in terms of actual temperatures
It's relative to the average, the implication is temps will be far above average so sustained multi day highs potentially in the 120s. Current forecasts are probably conservative lol because that pressure ridge is very very strong

Corsec
Apr 17, 2007

SniperWoreConverse posted:

seen this colapse music in the wild:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GZthbcqIF4

was hoping collapse'd be cooler but eh what're you gonna do

Wanted to say thanks very much for posting this. This is a very doompilled band and their other albums are a cathartic soundtrack for our apocalypse. Reminds me of Tool.

This thread and it's previous iterations have been a surprisingly good source of music recommendations over the years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AaX4fsBLCY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHBpQTtJSNw

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

https://twitter.com/skyflyer81/status/1685077335383457792?s=20

mags
May 30, 2008

I am a congenital optimist.

Koirhor posted:

riot police will get stillsuits before any lifts a finger to help the poor

lol they don’t even give cops masks not like they would wear them and covid leads as the top cause of cop death

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Corsec posted:

Wanted to say thanks very much for posting this. This is a very doompilled band and their other albums are a cathartic soundtrack for our apocalypse. Reminds me of Tool.

This thread and it's previous iterations have been a surprisingly good source of music recommendations over the years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AaX4fsBLCY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHBpQTtJSNw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYOV_wCrhNs

Martha - Total Cancellation of the Future

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology



:mad: hey i just posted that, find your own apocalypse flora news

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~

Danru posted:

fellas, is it cool and good that authorities in Phoenix brought extra meat trucks in anticipation of mass climate death?

Actually I believe the term they used was "intakes"

Stereotype posted:

i'm imagining a situation where hundreds of distraught people are begging to be allowed to take refuge in the refrigerated containers brought in by FEMA for the overwhelming number of heat death corpses. Big rows of riot police keeping them away though. They're only allowed in after they die.

:stare: fuuuuuuckin lol, jesus christ.

im_sorry
Jan 15, 2006

(9999)
Ultra Carp
Here's one I did. https://soundcloud.com/the_door_is_scary/the-bdelloid-rotifer-will-outlive-us-all

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



mags posted:

lol they don’t even give cops masks not like they would wear them and covid leads as the top cause of cop death

Cops got plenty of masks for tear gassing people. And that's the only time they bothered to use them.

They're also the only profession that always counts COVID as an on the job death.

Corsec
Apr 17, 2007

skooma512 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYOV_wCrhNs

Martha - Total Cancellation of the Future

I appreciate the attempt, but that is far too cheery and upbeat to satisfy my doomlust. It is lyrically doomer, but not aesthetically doomer. Aesthetically doomer music makes you want to sob bitterly, rather than hum along to the chorus.

mags
May 30, 2008

I am a congenital optimist.

jetz0r posted:

Cops got plenty of masks for tear gassing people. And that's the only time they bothered to use them.

They're also the only profession that always counts COVID as an on the job death.

they even have a website with a wall of dead pigs

Rip Testes
Jan 29, 2004

I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.

Corsec posted:

Wanted to say thanks very much for posting this. This is a very doompilled band and their other albums are a cathartic soundtrack for our apocalypse. Reminds me of Tool.

This thread and it's previous iterations have been a surprisingly good source of music recommendations over the years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AaX4fsBLCY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHBpQTtJSNw

Here's the compilation disc that was ahead of it's time.

https://www.discogs.com/release/317179-Various-Soundtrack-For-The-End-Of-The-World

Closing track: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ5-fEQqIE0

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017




Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

as an economist, I would recommend that the most productive thing to do would be to work indoors

Hit Man
Mar 6, 2008

I hope after I die people will say of me: "That guy sure owed me a lot of money."

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1685072074002354176?s=20

https://twitter.com/IdeaGov/status/1684457043170824197?s=20

can't imagine a blackout and grid failure during a record heat dome

but refrigerated containers run off diesel so our bodies will remain cool

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Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Hit Man posted:

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1685072074002354176?s=20

https://twitter.com/IdeaGov/status/1684457043170824197?s=20

can't imagine a blackout and grid failure during a record heat dome

but refrigerated containers run off diesel so our bodies will remain cool

Potential death rate is estimated to be 14,000, with 860,000 cases of hospitalization in the Greater Metropolitan Area of Phoenix.

This presumes a scenario that the power is out during a historical heat wave condition for a solid 48 hours, and the grid is slowly assumed to come back online in sections over the next 72 hours.

My source is that I made it the gently caress up.

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