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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:Is there a mod loader like there was TWW2? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2845454582
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Spent fifteen minutes trying to pick a faction to play after wrapping norsca and chaos. Hovered over rats and orcs, something new you know maybe I'll I AM PRINCE AND EMPEROR.
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Jul 29, 2023 05:48
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Trying high elves for the first time and noticed their weird bonuses for 100 control. Is it worth building control buildings everywhere or do they have some other mechanic that helps you reach 100 control?
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Jul 29, 2023 08:31
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At level 16, Handmaidens get a skill that gives +1 factionwide to public order. Not sure if the Emollient trait for nobles still exists, but that gives you +1 factionwide. You can get +2 from research, just need the level 3 wine building.
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Jul 29, 2023 10:21
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i don't care what the game says, there was NOTHING pyrrhic about this  get hosed rat losers
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Jul 29, 2023 11:09
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A couple of the big Warhammer youtubers are putting up videos about the new DLC, they seem incredibly confident and the images they have look like official art so I assume it's like, official materials they've gotten hold of from CA but quite a weird way to allow the info to come out if so. Maybe it's from promo stuff for that tournament where it's going to be playable for the first time or something. Apparently there is also some short story written by one of the Black Library writers that ties in with it in some way or at least has the characters in the DLC in the story. Looks like the Cathay lord is another dragon sibling, with wind magic and the Tzeentch one is the Changeling. Unless they're truly spectacular they'll probably be the first DLC I skip entirely or wait for a deep discount on cause I don't think you could pick two factions I could be less interested in.
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https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/1685213616771911680?s=20 Weirdly quiet way to announce the DLC, especially as there's been some clamour to expand out Cathay.
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Jul 29, 2023 11:34
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"Everybody is suspicious of Zhao Ming, whose long experiments with warp stone may have clouded his mind." "Anyway, here's this guy made of warp stone gas in the joint Tzeentch DLC." looks cool though but lol at a bit of possibly unintended coloring theming
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Doomykins posted:"Everybody is suspicious of Zhao Ming, whose long experiments with warp stone may have clouded his mind." Yuan Bo is the Jade Dragon, unless jade is what the Cathayans call warpstone, yes-yes. 
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Jul 29, 2023 12:00
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Yuan Bo is the Jade Dragon, unless jade is what the Cathayans call warpstone, yes-yes. I'm pretty sure it is heavily implied or stated outright that Jade in Cathay is warpstone.
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Jul 29, 2023 12:11
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more tzeentch and more cathay is a-ok in my books
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thebardyspoon posted:A couple of the big Warhammer youtubers are putting up videos about the new DLC, they seem incredibly confident and the images they have look like official art so I assume it's like, official materials they've gotten hold of from CA but quite a weird way to allow the info to come out if so. Maybe it's from promo stuff for that tournament where it's going to be playable for the first time or something. Apparently there is also some short story written by one of the Black Library writers that ties in with it in some way or at least has the characters in the DLC in the story. There's Kislev too, if I remember from the roadmap they released.
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Jul 29, 2023 13:38
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Panderfringe posted:There's Kislev too, if I remember from the roadmap they released. Yeah I just looked at the image and you're right. They're cool, still though usually with the other DLC the bit I'm less interested in I am still slightly interested in playing, like the Lizardmen I'm usually pretty meh on but I'll still play them and the new units are fun additions, Cathay and Tzeentch are just the two factions near the bottom of my personal list and it'll be coming out in the middle of a jam packed season for gaming. It's too early to rightly say of course cause they could absolutely sell me with some cool mechanics, units and a sick trailer but I think I'll be fine waiting too.
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Jul 29, 2023 13:53
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Panderfringe posted:There's Kislev too, if I remember from the roadmap they released. Yes, it's supposed to be one LL each from Tzeentch, kislev, and Cathay, plus iirc one LH, and...maybe 1 FLC LH or LL coming at the same time? I can't be sure on that last one. So, if that's right, Changeling, presumably Ostankya, Jade Dragon, and two LHs. Maybe one is the Monkey King for all Cathay as the FLC and the other is Aekold for Tzeentch?
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Jul 29, 2023 13:57
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Aekold is pretty much confirmed from the tease they did for it a bit ago, yeah. A frontliner champion of Tzeentch? That's pretty much Aekold and no one else.
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Jul 29, 2023 14:51
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I'm both surprised and not surprised by the Jade Dragon add - like yeah the factions whose marquee feature is leaders who are shapeshifting dragons gets another shapeshifting dragon. On the other hand some of the early speculation of this DLC leaning in on Kislev and Cathay's more fantastical elements was pretty appealing. Not that any of that is ruled out but Monkey King would have been a nice contrast to another spoiled dragon kiddo.
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Jul 29, 2023 14:53
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Yuan-Bo seems like he could be interesting, since based on his lore he's: - Based in the Central Provinces - The big Cathay Magic Guy, compared to Miao's ranged unit emphasis and Zhao's melee unit emphasis - Loves astromancers, hates alchemists - Canonically dies to a Bret lord on a grail quest (which could be an opportunity for them to inject a Bret minor into the region as his starting enemy and break up the monotony of rat/rat/vamp/vamp/cath/cath/cath/cath/cath/cath/cath/cath/lizard/druchii) So that's exciting. On my wish list for the DLC/Cathay rebalance/rework when the DLC comes out: - Do something about the Bastions/invasion mechanic in IE, it makes 0 sense for anyone but Miao to deal with it and if you want to model "there's chaos at the door constantly!" congrats you already have Vilitch, a vassal Norscan, and chorfs visible on screen up there and Kholek just off-screen ready to be a poo poo - Severely limit the scope of the yin/yang balance mechanic, right now it dictates your buildings and your technology and your recruiting on the tac map and in combat basically means "your units stay in formation or they're just shittier now" which for cav and fliers means you either get weaker doing your job, babysit units that don't help it (which you gotta recruit somewhere too, good luck finding the space), or ignore it, which is always a mark of a GREAT mechanic - Give the Cathay LLs quest battles for items. Literally even one per LL would make them feel more complete than the current state, which is, they've got a ton of mechanics hiding that they weren't ready for IE
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So do all these Cathay characters have any pre-existing lore, or is this just GW and CA making this up as they go along?
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Chernobyl Peace Prize posted:Yuan-Bo seems like he could be interesting, since based on his lore he's: Wait he dies? Where is that from?
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Jul 29, 2023 15:09
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Yuan Bo does seem like a good pick to expand on Cathay’s core faction identity rather than trying to bolt a Monkey Warrior subfaction to it right at the get-go
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orangelex44 posted:Wait he dies? Where is that from? According to his wiki page, a novel from 2005 I guess? https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Yuan_Bo
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Chemtrailologist posted:So do all these Cathay characters have any pre-existing lore, or is this just GW and CA making this up as they go along? lol
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Tzeentch is fun as hell and cathay... Well I like their spell mastery access and the way their troops look in formation
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So that is definitely some out of date lore, since they revised Cathy and basically discarded 90% of what came before. Still like you said, it would be a nice nod and excuse to have a minor questing bret faction in the region.
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Jul 29, 2023 16:23
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put him in Brettonia, right next to the Red Duke.
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More weird dragon morons is good imo, especially if they look like Ma Chao in dynasty warriors
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Jul 29, 2023 16:36
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Yeah assume any pre-WH3 Cathay lore doesn't exist lol even the great maw event plays a bit different given the dragon emperor back then was just A Dude
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Jul 29, 2023 16:53
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having him die to some random French idiot makes his self important attitude very funny so that should remain canon
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JBP posted:Spent fifteen minutes trying to pick a faction to play after wrapping norsca and chaos. Hovered over rats and orcs, something new you know maybe I'll I AM PRINCE AND EMPEROR. *Nods approvingly* Also I'll buy the new DLC anyway but I wish it was the monkey king 
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Tiler Kiwi posted:having him die to some random French idiot makes his self important attitude very funny so that should remain canon Colisse! Tabarnak!
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SteelMentor posted:https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/1685213616771911680?s=20 Has the most detailed look yet at Onyx Crowmen. They’re constructs made directly from the winds of magic by the Moon Empress. I think they were described in the Tamurkhan book as statues, but here they’re hosed up little guys who have a magical aura that makes people ignore them. There’s even an illustration of one. Fun!
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So for potential new units for Cathay we have from the ebook: Wu-xing Monks Crowmen things Gate Master Lord/Hero Wardrum of Shang-wu Jade Warriors with Spears
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Jul 29, 2023 17:49
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Onyx crowmen as a low model count, flying unit with stalk and maybe armor piercing and magical attacks?
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I can never log in to the CA account at that link, just constantly authorising... not a great loss I'm sure!
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i differ from that above poster cuz i think ying yang is good but they really should have provided both yin and yang for every unit type. no horse archers means cathay land cav is just bad forex prolly will get a fix this dlc
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Jul 29, 2023 18:05
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bob dobbs is dead posted:i differ from that above poster cuz i think ying yang is good but they really should have provided both yin and yang for every unit type. no horse archers means cathay land cav is just bad forex
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I’m much more interested in what they do to the campaign mechanics for tzeetch, Cathay, and kislev than the lords. They all deserve some serious tweaks and added depth. They likely won’t come back around on those 3 after this for a long time, if ever (before the end of active development). I probably will skip this dlc too. I’ll take the free 4.0 changes and wait for winter sale, where I will likely pay full price for the 5.0 dlc bc empire and dwarfs cmon. Also would be nice to see nurgle get some fun new units and a serious upgrade for their campaign mechanics.
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Hmm, definitely sounds like this DLC isn't gonna be the "outlaw" subfactions like everyone assumed, so maybe no Baba Yaga after all.
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