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Carthag Tuek posted:dwarves are just little people, theyre fine. its the finns who do weird troll magic
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zedprime posted:Oh, so that's what people mean when they think 3D Megadoodoo is trolling when he is just earnestly finnposting. akkurat
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zedprime posted:Oh, so that's what people mean when they think 3D Megadoodoo is trolling when he is just earnestly finnposting.
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canyoneer posted:me and my friends would have killed gandalf with hammers I can tell you that much Gandalf is an angel and no mortal man could possibly come close to killing him, with hammers or otherwise.
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doverhog posted:Gandalf is an angel and no mortal man could possibly come close to killing him, with hammers or otherwise. So was Saruman and he was murdered by Wormtongue
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His spirit survives and sort of fucks off being unable to return to valinor.
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thetoughestbean posted:So was Saruman and he was murdered by Wormtongue He gave up his sacred charge and lost the favor of God, and the Valar. Wormtongue was able to murder Saruman only after he had been corrupted, defeated, had his staff broken by Gandalf, and then further lowered himself to go attack the Shire. That happened after the Ring was destroyed and Sauron had lost. Saruman through his own actions gave up all his divine powers, and after he was killed Manwe sent a wind to deny his spirit from ever returning to Valinor. It's a tragedy really, one of many in Tolkien's writings. *it was effectively suicide doverhog has a new favorite as of 04:46 on Jul 29, 2023 |
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verbal enema posted:Oh DM not DOM my bad whoopsie To be fair Dungeon Master can be ambiguous at the best of times. thetoughestbean posted:Wasn’t All The King’s Men based on the career of Huey Long? Not to get too much into the weeds but that can be a pretty decorum-poisoned way of putting 'actually willing to do things to help people', which is increasingly what 'authoritarian' gets used to mean.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Not to get too much into the weeds but that can be a pretty decorum-poisoned way of putting 'actually willing to do things to help people', which is increasingly what 'authoritarian' gets used to mean. Long had his bodyguards kidnap a man! He almost certainly committed election fraud!
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thetoughestbean posted:Long had his bodyguards kidnap a man! He almost certainly committed election fraud! King poo poo
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Biplane posted:King poo poo Yes that’s the problem
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thetoughestbean posted:He almost certainly committed election fraud! The same applies to JFK. You gotta play the game, friend.
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What do you think police are even for?
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Ghost Leviathan posted:To be fair Dungeon Master can be ambiguous at the best of times. this is why theres no english word meaning "risible; crazy guy; odd snail"
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LBJ blatantly cheated in the 1948 Senate primary, but because it’s a primary, nothing about it was illegal.
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Platystemon posted:LBJ blatantly cheated in the 1948 Senate primary, but because it’s a primary, nothing about it was illegal. well also because it was politics. thats the greek word for "cheating is okay" or "its not cheating" (sources differ)
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Carthag Tuek posted:yeah lot of battle scenes on the Hammar stones but no hangings that i can see There is`nt necessarily a contradiction between hyper-violent machismo and accepting women leaders or even non-binary leaders. On the other hand they would probably not follow a straigth cis-man if he tried to stop his warriors from raping and killing women and children after a battle.
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gandalf was a dwarf in norse mythology, tolkien got a lot of names and stuff from there and elsewhere
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Baudolino posted:There is`nt necessarily a contradiction between hyper-violent machismo and accepting women leaders or even non-binary leaders. true. i was just trying to say that you cant map their norms one-to-one to ours. both are poo poo, in overlapping ways
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Rappaport posted:The same applies to JFK. You gotta play the game, friend. Yes and that was bad too. But Long kidnapped a guy. He remade Louisiana into his own personal fiefdom, giving himself the power to call in the National Guard for any reason. He would reward sycophants and would go out of his way to destroy any critics. His response after an assassination plot was uncovered was to make criticizing him illegal! That’s the action of a demagogue.
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So we all agree Huey Long was cool
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thetoughestbean posted:Yes and that was bad too. But Long kidnapped a guy. Everybody wanna be a leftist till it's time to do leftist poo poo smh
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The Marxist-Blanquist-Boulangerist-Longist faction has logged on
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iwentdoodie posted:Everybody wanna be a leftist till it's time to do leftist poo poo smh I really don’t think wrapping the institutions of the state around your specific personality is particularly leftist.
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Jeffrey hasn’t updated the rules with the true definition yet, so it’s pretty much open season
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The Kingfish ends up feeling weird politically because he is one of the very rare examples of an authoritarian populist who actually did make things better for the people under him and wasn't using the rhetoric just to enrich himself or start killing minorities. And yeah, I hate that Kaiserreich lumps him in with Big Business and the loving Klan.
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Baudolino posted:There is`nt necessarily a contradiction between hyper-violent machismo and accepting women leaders or even non-binary leaders. It should also be said being rich and powerful will make you an exception to the rules a lot of times. Like the emperor Hardrian was openly gay and people didn’t like it but ultimately what are you gonna do about it
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Baudolino posted:There is`nt necessarily a contradiction between hyper-violent machismo and accepting women leaders or even non-binary leaders. Oh please, they would definitely follow a straight cis-man trying to stop them from raping and killing women and children after a battle. They would follow because the guy most likely still has the command of a bigger bunch of their warrior friends; friends that really do not want their dumb rampaging friends to destroy the most precious loot for the warband!
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Huey Long is such a morally grey figure.
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Woolie Wool posted:The ancient Norse warrior elite did not have any concept of "homosexuality", much of what we consider gay is stuff they would disapprove of, but to them it would be "argr", which is betraying the Bro Code by letting oneself be penetrated--so tops are OK, war rape of dudes is badass, but bottoms are reprehensible and equivalent to wizards, who are also unmanly and evil. We don't really know what concept the ancient norse warrior elite had about homosexuality. Aside from a few rune stones we don't have any contemporary written records. Anything we know about that period is based on archaeology and texts written several centuries after the viking age ended.
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FreudianSlippers posted:The Alf in Gandalf is "álfr" or elf in the original text because to the Norse Elf probably meant something more akin to minor diety or powerful supernatural being instead of being a separate race as we would understand it today. The wand in Gandalf means "wand" or "staff". Gandalf was a mythological dwarf, but wand-elves are also a type of being in Beowulf. It's interesting to read Beowulf and see references to orcs and to Middle Earth. Tolkien was a huge fan.
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He was the foremost scholar on it.
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Zudgemud posted:Oh please, they would definitely follow a straight cis-man trying to stop them from raping and killing women and children after a battle. They would follow because the guy most likely still has the command of a bigger bunch of their warrior friends; friends that really do not want their dumb rampaging friends to destroy the most precious loot for the warband! I mean trying to do that is how the usurper Emperor Postumus died. And the city they wanted to sack was his capital
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Platystemon posted:Huey Long is such a morally grey figure. Long wasn’t opposed to the Nazis though. He was an isolationist who opposed foreign intervention. He didn’t approve of them, but he wouldn’t have taken actions against them
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean trying to do that is how the usurper Emperor Postumus died. Yes, and his warriors would have let him live if he had simply offered them the citizens of his capital as slaves, just as a fair slaver lord would. 
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Don't liken me to that son of a bitch Hitler. Anybody that lets his public policies be mixed up with religious prejudice is a plain goddamn fool.
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Alhazred posted:We don't really know what concept the ancient norse warrior elite had about homosexuality. Aside from a few rune stones we don't have any contemporary written records. Anything we know about that period is based on archaeology and texts written several centuries after the viking age ended. Amusingly enough, we do know their opinion on white nationalism/racism. Or at least we can infer that they didn't care for it since they were perfectly fine with raiding the British Isles for slaves to be sold to the Caliphate. In fact, this venture was so profitable and so much more sustainable than regular plundering that different Viking groups fought each other over who would get to raid for slaves in parts of Ireland several times. IIRC, Dublin was actually founded as a viking slave market.
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I mean that’s most people. A white identity is rather new all things considered. You were identified by where you came from (or your family at large) by basically all groups for most of history
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Yeah it one hundred percent has nothing to do with nationalism, whiteness or race. Slaves were just a thing that was viked along with like cookware, good metal and livestock
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