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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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speng31b
May 8, 2010

Regarde Aduck posted:

pretty sure him and Az wanted this thread dead at one point and were really tightening the screws

A few months after the big qcs meltdown and thread reset when things were mostly fine here Az told me that the dumb poo poo they'd had to deal with in the mod forum plus his personal dislike of this thread had completely exhausted any desire he had to defend it and implied that it would be closed at the next minor inconvenience because there was no will left to defend it.

Don't really blame him, sounds like he personally hates this thread and was thrust into the position of unwilling public defender against some of the dumbest and most annoying people you can imagine.

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Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Could Jeffrey develop a way to run this thread by Central Committee? Might Radium have included a politburo in the code?

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
never trust the west

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Frosted Flake posted:

Now, when it comes to 1988-89, I don't think T-72s are an effective countermeasure to Levis and bananas, that's a part of socialist theory that needs further study.

China has studied it. The response was Dengism. It worked.

Deng ftw.

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

Orange Devil posted:

China has studied it. The response was Dengism. It worked.

Deng ftw.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
also having a population that is actually aware of how the world works outside of your socialist framework so they don't think levis and bananas are worth losing everything else

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3z841UJiVk

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

Frosted Flake posted:

e: Also, without getting too much into the inner German border and Berlin Wall, we now know definitively that the CIA was infiltrating agents into East Germany throughout that same period, so while the west has always discussed the military frontier as a way to keep people in, I don't think that's entirely true.

before the Wall went up there were campaigns of sabotage and terrorism (and also what amounted to pranks) in East Germany





source: the CIA upload of Killing Hope by William Blum lol

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Why do paranoid socialist governments always act like they're under attack and have huge state security apparatus?!

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

John Charity Spring posted:

before the Wall went up there were campaigns of sabotage and terrorism (and also what amounted to pranks) in East Germany





source: the CIA upload of Killing Hope by William Blum lol

Lmao cia victory lap. Look what we did!

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

Is the Russian plan now to just let Ukraine destroy its army against its defenses? It does seem like political support in the west is starting to fail and Russia could hold tight a year or more and the aid might get cut off. It really only takes a few EU countries to want out for Ukraine to be screwed.

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

Orange Devil posted:

China has studied it. The response was Dengism. It worked.

Deng ftw.

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

deng hopping on capital's back and steering it around with a carrot dangling from a stick

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
ride the worm

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Raccooon posted:

Is the Russian plan now to just let Ukraine destroy its army against its defenses? It does seem like political support in the west is starting to fail

where is this happening? i dont see any sign that the west are dropping ukraine anytime soon

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Al-Saqr posted:

i dont see any sign that the west are dropping ukraine anytime soon

this

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be


:hmmyes:

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Regarde Aduck posted:

also having a population that is actually aware of how the world works outside of your socialist framework so they don't think levis and bananas are worth losing everything else

Yeah if my interactions with Chinese students is representative then I got bad news about this.


John Charity Spring posted:

before the Wall went up there were campaigns of sabotage and terrorism (and also what amounted to pranks) in East Germany

Terrorism and Capitalism

Orange Devil has issued a correction as of 15:14 on Jul 30, 2023

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
I work in the lovely bit of an international college in a UK university, and my main impression of Chinese students is Jesus they all seem to be rich as hell

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

ContinuityNewTimes posted:

I work in the lovely bit of an international college in a UK university, and my main impression of Chinese students is Jesus they all seem to be rich as hell

Not all, but most of them yeah goddamn.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
Yeah sure you can attempt to pay for that coffee with a fistful of fifties

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Frosted Flake posted:

all throughout the 40's and until the late 50's the CIA was parachuting Political people

I guess you could say there were para-political

January 6 Survivor
Jan 6, 2022

The
Nelson Mandela
of clapping
dusty old cheeks


( o(

John Charity Spring posted:

before the Wall went up there were campaigns of sabotage and terrorism (and also what amounted to pranks) in East Germany





source: the CIA upload of Killing Hope by William Blum lol

lmao one of those shitheads planning, and I want this to be extremely clear, to literally carry out a terrorist attack on a civilian train that would have resulted in the death or maiming of hundred of innocent people was not only rehabilitated by the G*rman government but also, and again I need to stress that it is illegal to say bad things about them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Burianek

what a joke of a country, I don't know if T72 can win against blue jeans but they should have tried anyway

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Al-Saqr posted:

where is this happening? i dont see any sign that the west are dropping ukraine anytime soon

the requirement of unquestioning support in the media has cracked a bit, slightly critical articles have started coming out (though usually framing ukraines problems as soviet in origin)
so there is a slight trend in the direction that would allow ukraine to be cut of, but as shown with the fortification expert ff posted it has a very long way to go

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

January 6 Survivor posted:

lmao one of those shitheads planning, and I want this to be extremely clear, to literally carry out a terrorist attack on a civilian train that would have resulted in the death or maiming of hundred of innocent people was not only rehabilitated by the G*rman government but also, and again I need to stress that it is illegal to say bad things about them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Burianek

what a joke of a country, I don't know if T72 can win against blue jeans but they should have tried anyway

Controversial Legacy

In Germany, under §189 of the criminal code, defamation of the memory of a deceased person is a criminal offence which upon conviction may attract a fine or a prison term of up to two years. The Burianek case hit the headlines again in 2012 and 2013 on account of a former Stasi officer, Colonel Wolfgang Schmidt, who used his internet site to describe Burianek as a "bandit" and as the "leader of a terrorist organisation". On 27 September 2012 Schmidt was convicted under §189 in respect of the matter by a court which evidently accepted that Schmidt's characterizations of Burianek had been false and defamatory. The court ordered Schmidt to pay a fine of €1,200.

The action against Schmidt had been triggered by Hubertus Knabe, the director of the Hohenschönhausen Memorial Museum on the northern edge of Berlin. It was not the first time Knabe and Schmidt had come across one another, Schmidt already having been fined €2,100 in 2009 for calling Knabe himself a "publicly unrestrained rabble rouser" ("öffentlich und ungestraft als Volksverhetzer") in connection with Knabe's earlier work on the Stasi.

Schmidt appealed against the €1,200 fine, imposed under §189 for defaming the memory of Johann Burianek, but on 18 March 2013 the District Court rejected his appeal.Knabe welcomed the court's verdict: "I am pleased that the Justice System stands up against historical revisionism from former Stasi operatives. Even today, we must not allow the perpetrators to denigrate their victims in public." He also stressed the significance of a court decision which, for the first time, extended §189 of the Criminal code to include negative portrayals of those convicted by the German Democratic Republic.

:psyduck:

Organ Fiend
May 21, 2007

custom title

Cuttlefush posted:

i'd send the tanks in every time

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Its not like the west is going to "Give up" on ukraine, its just that what they can offer is already scaping the bottom of the barrel. The pentagon having to do accounting errors to finance large scale equipment transfers to ukraine points to them not being able to get things transferred legitimately through congress. A lot of the money thats being earmarked for ukraine is just to keep the country running and not transfer more equipment, and a lot of the money thats being set aside for equipment is to make it, often times from 4th tier MIC companies, just purchasing anything they have available at the time to send down there.

Terrible time to announce the counter offensive part 2 with the weather loving up any pushes and letting russians entrench themselves better. Saw a video of trucks going through a line with the guys dropping anti tank mines from it. Not even burying them, just tossing them at the edge of shrub line. Like an hours worth of work that will end up loving up millions of dollars of western armor.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

72923 posted:

nobody privatized syria

Real 'the libyan civil war was already kicking off when the west intervened' energy here

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Its not like the west is going to "Give up" on ukraine, its just that what they can offer is already scaping the bottom of the barrel.

I think it's just like we've got a bunch of poo poo we need to get rid of so we can sell more to the big boy mics, the waste is really the point

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
anyone who thinks this war isnt going to last another five years minimum are fooling themselves.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Al-Saqr posted:

anyone who thinks this war isnt going to last another five years minimum are fooling themselves.

trumps going to campaign on "im going to stop the war" but raytheon is going to have a suitcase full of Actual Pieces of Eight already waiting for him on the resolute desk

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I wonder if we're gonna get a repeat of a fighter pilot bombing the presidential palace as the regime crumbles

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Niger will not be allowed to fall into Russian hands. Enough! Niger is ours.

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo
tianemmen square guy asking for a ride to hungary to help defeat fascists

Buffer
May 6, 2007
I sometimes turn down sex and blowjobs from my girlfriend because I'm too busy posting in D&D. PS: She used my credit card to pay for this.

speng31b posted:

A few months after the big qcs meltdown and thread reset when things were mostly fine here Az told me that the dumb poo poo they'd had to deal with in the mod forum plus his personal dislike of this thread had completely exhausted any desire he had to defend it and implied that it would be closed at the next minor inconvenience because there was no will left to defend it.

Don't really blame him, sounds like he personally hates this thread and was thrust into the position of unwilling public defender against some of the dumbest and most annoying people you can imagine.

I'm always so curious what the characterization of that stuff was, because judging by the wider forums my best guess is there were a bunch of mods who decided the forums were a front for the war and they were gonna fight it by god.

Which I'd think would be a bigger problem for the site and its community than a thread taking a neutral position on a US proxy war. Especially given how many of that group got hit for stealth editing posts and abuse of admin powers like a year or two later.

But like, welp, what're you gonna do. I get why Az was annoyed, just... ugh.

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

speng31b posted:

A few months after the big qcs meltdown and thread reset when things were mostly fine here Az told me that the dumb poo poo they'd had to deal with in the mod forum plus his personal dislike of this thread had completely exhausted any desire he had to defend it and implied that it would be closed at the next minor inconvenience because there was no will left to defend it.

Don't really blame him, sounds like he personally hates this thread and was thrust into the position of unwilling public defender against some of the dumbest and most annoying people you can imagine.

i’m glad he’s dead

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Buffer posted:

I'm always so curious what the characterization of that stuff was, because judging by the wider forums my best guess is there were a bunch of mods who decided the forums were a front for the war and they were gonna fight it by god.

Which I'd think would be a bigger problem for the site and its community than a thread taking a neutral position on a US proxy war. Especially given how many of that group got hit for stealth editing posts and abuse of admin powers like a year or two later.

But like, welp, what're you gonna do. I get why Az was annoyed, just... ugh.

The other forums genuinely think this thread is hootin and hollerin for genocide and that we crave the deaths of Ukrainian babies. Theres occasional debate as to whether or not we're actively on the Kremlin's payroll of if we're doing it freelance. And, yes, some of them seem to think posting on SomethingAwful.com actively helps Russia... somehow. The IKs have clamped down on the most wild eyed accusations, but the sentiment is still there.

Although I guess that is fair considering I work in US defense policy and I'm the guy actively fighting against giving Ukraine F-16s. I'll see them all dead before they get one of our precious jets. Also I regularly funnel intelligence to my Russian handlers.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Anyways, its been several days since Offensive 2.0 - this time its for real, kicked off and news from the front has gotten pretty scarce. I remember breathless reports of breakthroughs to the so-called first defensive line a few days ago. Did that ever go anywhere?

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004


seek truth from facts.

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ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Orange Devil posted:

Yeah if my interactions with Chinese students is representative then I got bad news about this.



:hehe:

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