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Desantis's campaign message is "I'm a republican, not Trump"
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# ? Jul 27, 2023 12:57 |
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# ? May 11, 2024 10:48 |
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DeSantis's campaign is the "liberals liberals liberals" cartoon, only with "woke woke woke" instead.
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# ? Jul 27, 2023 13:23 |
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Trump's 2nd Term, No Trump. Or Become Florida, Or Else...
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# ? Jul 27, 2023 18:14 |
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people make cracks about states like Ohio or Jersey but goddam, becoming more like Florida sounds downright ominous, even from a fellow lovely red state
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# ? Jul 27, 2023 18:22 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:people make cracks about states like Ohio or Jersey but goddam, becoming more like Florida sounds downright ominous, even from a fellow lovely red state Agreed. As a resident I can tell you that the state (or at least where I live) is getting dumber, meaner and less affordable but, in conservative ideology, is held up as a shining beacon of Freedom because they stayed open for business during Covid and only 89,000 people died. The worst thing happening here, that's especially related to the free market, is that pretty soon it will become impossible to insure a home, and not just on the coast. Which is gonna get real weird legally when mortgage owners are required by law to have it but no company in the country will offer it. I'm wondering what happens then? My understanding is that the bank just buys it somewhere for you but that doesn't sound too great and I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that it will be just a tad expensive. DeSantis is doing jack poo poo about it (too busy fighting Disney and schools) and I'm not sure what can be done short of some kind of non profit/public option model but that's a non starter for the free market conservatives here.
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# ? Jul 28, 2023 01:16 |
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Florida is going to become physically unlivable, half underwater and the rest envying the drowned, possibly in our lifetimes. The only thing worth planning for long-term is resettlement.
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# ? Jul 28, 2023 03:10 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Agreed. As a resident I can tell you that the state (or at least where I live) is getting dumber, meaner and less affordable but, in conservative ideology, is held up as a shining beacon of Freedom because they stayed open for business during Covid and only 89,000 people died. Also it bears reminding everyone that DeSantis literally covered up COVID death numbers including imprisoning people who tried to accurately report them, so is that 89,000 number even real?
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# ? Jul 28, 2023 06:22 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Agreed. As a resident I can tell you that the state (or at least where I live) is getting dumber, meaner and less affordable but, in conservative ideology, is held up as a shining beacon of Freedom because they stayed open for business during Covid and only 89,000 people died. There already is a non-profit/public insurer in Florida, but it is only available if you can't get a policy from anyone else. FEMA redid their flood insurance policies in 2021 to stop fully subsidizing people who build in flood zones and make claims every 3 years, so now the Florida state fund is slowly on track for bankruptcy because the state government knows it is a losing battle and doesn't want to raise taxes to dump in there. Going to be interesting to see how that looks in 15 years.
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# ? Jul 28, 2023 13:54 |
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Ron DeSantis and Rick Perry are the most bizarrely successful politicians who can win elections in huge states, raise millions of dollars, and convince other people that they should vote for them/not run against them, but apparently completely melt down as soon as they leave their state. https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1684690327750254592
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# ? Jul 28, 2023 14:20 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Ron DeSantis and Rick Perry are the most bizarrely successful politicians who can win elections in huge states, raise millions of dollars, and convince other people that they should vote for them/not run against them, but apparently completely melt down as soon as they leave their state. Not knowing what an ICEE is should disqualify him from Florida office let alone president
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# ? Jul 28, 2023 15:00 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Agreed. As a resident I can tell you that the state (or at least where I live) is getting dumber, meaner and less affordable but, in conservative ideology, is held up as a shining beacon of Freedom because they stayed open for business during Covid and only 89,000 people died. It's nice to know that floridians notice that. We go over to Pensacola area a lot both for work and to just chill in some non-swamp beaches. And it's crazy how people just... become floridian when you get past Biloxi and Mobile. I don't like making judgements based on what state someone is in, but something is rotten in the state of Florida. Different from the standard deep south vibes. I guess there's a reason it has given us a lot of our cartooniest GOP politicians in recent years. And I'm counting Trump there, Queens by birth but floridian at heart. Mean and dumb is a good descriptor. If we must elect a president from this gator-infested hell we call the gulf coast, I nominate the mouldering bones of Huey Long, last decent guy we produced.
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# ? Jul 28, 2023 15:21 |
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Angry_Ed posted:Also it bears reminding everyone that DeSantis literally covered up COVID death numbers including imprisoning people who tried to accurately report them, so is that 89,000 number even real? I mean Desantis is bad on covid because he's a leader in making vaccines a culture war issue. He's (partly) responsible for a large fraction of 2021 and later covid deaths even in blue states, in a way that several other Republican governors who also did nothing to mitigate covid aren't. I don't know how much there is with the dashboard stuff, Desantis clearly behaved badly but Rebekah Jones is a grifter and it's not like Florida's reported covid deaths are particularly low.
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# ? Jul 28, 2023 15:27 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:As long as Trump is still in the race, running your campaign message as "Trump is great, Trump won the election in 2016 and 2020, he is being railroaded, even though I definitely think he won in 2016 and 2020 I also think he might be unelectable and you should vote for me because I am almost as great as Trump" is going to be a losing strategy. A noun, a verb, and woke. Thats 6 words but close enough. Edit: He's running a hard right campaign with his "war on woke" taking on cultural issues and positioning himself to the right of Trump. He's also positioning or trying to position himself with the nazi right wingers with his weird internet videos. I feel like his campaign is basically conservative culture personified. gurragadon fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Jul 28, 2023 |
# ? Jul 28, 2023 15:33 |
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BiggerBoat posted:The worst thing happening here, that's especially related to the free market, is that pretty soon it will become impossible to insure a home, and not just on the coast. Which is gonna get real weird legally when mortgage owners are required by law to have it but no company in the country will offer it. I'm wondering what happens then? My understanding is that the bank just buys it somewhere for you but that doesn't sound too great and I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that it will be just a tad expensive. This is what I worry about, I'm in Pensacola and my rates for a home built in 1959 is now 7800 a year. I'm lucky I bought this house when prices were low, I couldn't fathom paying 300K and up to live in this horrible state. The state is getting worse because a lot of boomers are moving down here from other areas, driving prices through the roof and adding to an already dense conservative mind set.
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# ? Jul 28, 2023 16:55 |
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Just a ridiculous strategy https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1685210358770712576
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# ? Jul 29, 2023 10:36 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:There already is a non-profit/public insurer in Florida, but it is only available if you can't get a policy from anyone else. FEMA redid their flood insurance policies in 2021 to stop fully subsidizing people who build in flood zones and make claims every 3 years, so now the Florida state fund is slowly on track for bankruptcy because the state government knows it is a losing battle and doesn't want to raise taxes to dump in there. Going to be interesting to see how that looks in 15 years. That's correct. It's means tested or something close where you can only get it if competing policies are 30% or above the subsidized rate. My uneducated guess is that the insurance companies that do insure will just quote that rate. And 30% is pretty high.
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# ? Jul 29, 2023 11:45 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Ron DeSantis and Rick Perry are the most bizarrely successful politicians who can win elections in huge states, raise millions of dollars, and convince other people that they should vote for them/not run against them, but apparently completely melt down as soon as they leave their state. It's because there's no local media anywhere anymore, so the bar is subterranean for state level politicians. They never actually face a grilling, or quite often voters. Even in Texas or Florida. It's the exact same situation that led to Sarah Palin - as soon as there's scrutiny they're revealed to not be able to stand up to it, but they've never actually been scrutinized before.
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# ? Jul 29, 2023 12:57 |
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Charlz Guybon posted:Just a ridiculous strategy This seems like a loser strategy from a campaign desperately trying to make something happen. Harris isn't even all that visible in public. Also, at some point you have to OFFER something to the American public.
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# ? Jul 29, 2023 15:28 |
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I mean Desantis' staffers are all groypers and his campaign is at war with the five black Republicans in congress over whether slavery was actually good. It's not mysterious why he's trying to run against Harris. (not that it'll work)
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# ? Jul 29, 2023 19:07 |
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Charlz Guybon posted:Just a ridiculous strategy I'm not sure doubling down on vendettas against black people is a nationally winning strategy, Ron.
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# ? Jul 29, 2023 21:08 |
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DeSantis seems to be running a winning strategy for Harris.
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# ? Jul 29, 2023 21:21 |
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EDIT: misread a chart, disregard
Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Jul 30, 2023 |
# ? Jul 30, 2023 01:47 |
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It’s so painful https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1685258208586223618?s=46&t=JBd6ZXmGQ3LmWL-ineTnAA
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# ? Jul 30, 2023 15:43 |
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FizFashizzle posted:It’s so painful Patrick Bateman-rear end candidate
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# ? Jul 30, 2023 16:48 |
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That's a pretty good "terminate smile.exe" right as he walks away
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# ? Jul 30, 2023 16:49 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:DeSantis seems to be running a winning strategy for Harris.
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# ? Jul 30, 2023 16:55 |
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SithDrummer posted:Sounds like a very strategic aim at getting the VP nom He might be thinking along those lines, but it won't work. Trump is the most childishly petty rear end in a top hat ever to live and will never forgive DeSantis for daring to challenge him. At absolute best, he'd end up this cycle's Chris Christie, turned into an errand boy and humiliated at every opportunity until he quits.
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# ? Jul 30, 2023 18:26 |
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he's not thinking along those lines at all lol besides being mortal enemies and a personality clash, a trump/desantis ticket would forfeit electoral votes from florida
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# ? Jul 30, 2023 18:33 |
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Yeah Harris is just the natural foil for Desantis’s anti-woke agenda. It’s much more natural for him to attack a black woman with a name he can intentionally mispronounce than a white man. And it’s clear to his would be supporters what it’s really about.
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# ? Jul 30, 2023 18:39 |
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Giving me Clint Eastwood RNC empty chair vibes.
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# ? Jul 30, 2023 18:44 |
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FizFashizzle posted:It’s so painful Video is painful but still technically fulfills the 'candidate you can have a beer with' requirement.
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# ? Jul 30, 2023 19:08 |
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A candidate it is physically possible to have a beer with.
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# ? Jul 30, 2023 20:48 |
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shithead makes Larry David look like a smooth operator
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# ? Jul 30, 2023 20:49 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:A candidate it is physically possible to have a beer with. I have a beer within close proximity of a being called Ron DeSantis, politician.
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# ? Jul 30, 2023 23:02 |
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We sure this isn’t just a right wing grift? https://twitter.com/jstein_wapo/status/1686044267704160257?s=46&t=JBd6ZXmGQ3LmWL-ineTnAA
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# ? Jul 31, 2023 23:38 |
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Extreme Jeb energy from DeSantis:quote:For $1, New Hampshire voters were invited to drink beer with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Saturday in Concord. quote:Audience Member: I'm 15 and a member of JROTC. I really want to continue my family's tradition of military service when I become an adult, but I struggle with major depressive disorder. I can't legally vote, but I -- quote:Later that evening, in Osceola, an 82-year-old farmer told DeSantis that he tends fewer acres since his wife died of cancer five years ago, and asked about the candidate’s thoughts on ethanol, a corn-based renewable fuel used in cars. quote:DeSantis defended his personal touch in an interview with NBC News last week, arguing that critics are off-base when they say he has difficulty connecting. https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/1686179239974813696
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# ? Aug 1, 2023 19:12 |
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i think desantis hit a 45% chance of winning on predictit
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# ? Aug 2, 2023 04:47 |
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It's always a great sign to burn through so much staff so early in a campaign. Not at all humiliating! https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/08/ron-desantis-replaces-campaign-manager-00110253
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# ? Aug 8, 2023 16:42 |
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I'm not an expert but I don't think the manager is the problem.
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# ? Aug 8, 2023 17:07 |
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# ? May 11, 2024 10:48 |
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Ron DeSantis replaces Ron DeSantis with new candidate in DeSantis campaign.
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# ? Aug 8, 2023 17:10 |