Formula One 2023: McLaren fans are dark energy

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Starbucks: Jul 7, 2002; Your daily cup of fuck you.

I love Formula 1 as much as the next person, but I would rather have a Spa day than go to Spa. This is mostly because spa days are awesome, and it rains as much as Swansea in Spa.

# ? Jul 30, 2023 23:02

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# ? May 29, 2024 02:09

Judge Schnoopy: Nov 2, 2005; dont even TRY it, pal

Diet Crack posted:

You guys are loving broken - this was a good race but Hungary wasn't??

Spa was the biggest snoozefest so far

Don't get confused, those of us saying Spa was a good time also said Hungary was fun.

This thread is 10% F1 fans and 90% grumpy old fucks whinging about the 'good ol days' when a different team was dominant for a near decade

# ? Jul 30, 2023 23:15

Arc Hammer: Mar 4, 2013; Got any deathsticks?

Are there any upgrade regulations that teams have to follow during the summer break or are they allowed to go hog wild with their upgrade packages and research so long as they remain within the cost cap?

# ? Jul 30, 2023 23:22

Mokotow: Apr 16, 2012

Judge Schnoopy posted:

Don't get confused, those of us saying Spa was a good time also said Hungary was fun.

This thread is 10% F1 fans and 90% grumpy old fucks whinging about the 'good ol days' when a different team was dominant for a near decade

rude

# ? Jul 30, 2023 23:24

uninterrupted: Jun 20, 2011

Diet Crack posted:

You guys are loving broken - this was a good race but Hungary wasn't??

Spa was the biggest snoozefest so far

Tbf max wasn't in first place for a quarter of the race which is the longest I can think of in a while?

# ? Jul 30, 2023 23:32

Rinkles: Oct 24, 2010; What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

marshalljim posted:

Max is a good lad who means well (when he is winning by 20 seconds over his teammate).

after starting five places behind

# ? Jul 30, 2023 23:56

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

Arc Hammer posted:

Are there any upgrade regulations that teams have to follow during the summer break or are they allowed to go hog wild with their upgrade packages and research so long as they remain within the cost cap?

Mandatory factory shutdowns for two weeks or something I think

# ? Jul 30, 2023 23:57

Feels Villeneuve: Oct 7, 2007; Setter is Better.

I have been the forums greatest formula one fan since 1999 and "there was a good battle for 9th" has always been the primary form of bad race cope

# ? Jul 31, 2023 00:15

Frond: Mar 12, 2018

Feels Villeneuve posted:

I have been the forums greatest formula one fan since 1999 and "there was a good battle for 9th" has always been the primary form of bad race cope

# ? Jul 31, 2023 00:39

Phone: Jul 30, 2005; 親子丼をほしい。

Yeah but we�re talking about the battle for 19th

# ? Jul 31, 2023 00:42

Khablam: Mar 29, 2012

Feels Villeneuve posted:

I have been the forums greatest formula one fan since 1999 and "there was a good battle for 9th" has always been the primary form of bad race cope

You're just wrong.
2014-2020, bar subtle changes, looked like this every week

Merc: Untouchable. Applied massive amounts of sandbags because they thought people would revolt if they won races by 30s*. Sometimes they'd gently caress up this balance and actually be assailable, but usually for just one stint of a race giving someone a chance to win if it was the final stint. (or the drivers rammed each other off)
[+5-10s performance deficit that we can see by race end, obviously potentially higher if you paid attention]
RBR & Ferrari: Clear second tier, competitive with each other but ultimately fighting for #2 in the WDC and the third step of the podium on a weekend.
[60s+ usually lapped by race end]
Everyone else: no one in any other team had a shot at a ""genuine"" win or even podium.
Grid spread and car deltas were much higher, meaning many races started with all the drivers going 2 by 2 down the field or close to it.

The old fantasy league had you predict the race outcome (for the top 10) and you could just leave it the same for the whole year once you'd worked out which midfield team was 7-8 and which one was 9-10.

This is a typical early hybrid era result:

This week everyone finished on the lead lap with no safety car. Cut out Max's lead and 60s covers you to 10th place.
There are currently 5 teams, half the grid, who have been competing for race wins, podiums and poles this year. We've had drivers finish in wildly different positions all season.

If you're only watching it to see the race winner maybe just follow the sport on tiktok or something.

* - it turns out they were 100% right because your brains are all loving mush after watching Max give no fucks for optics and win by half a minute every week

# ? Jul 31, 2023 01:11

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester: Oct 3, 2000

Nobody died in Le Belgique this weekend? Surprising outcome

# ? Jul 31, 2023 01:17

FAUXTON: Jun 2, 2005; spero che tu stia bene

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

Nobody died in Le Belgique this weekend? Surprising outcome

alas the thread continues

# ? Jul 31, 2023 01:29

Frond: Mar 12, 2018

Khablam posted:

You're just wrong.
2014-2020, bar subtle changes, looked like this every week

Merc: Untouchable. Applied massive amounts of sandbags because they thought people would revolt if they won races by 30s*. Sometimes they'd gently caress up this balance and actually be assailable, but usually for just one stint of a race giving someone a chance to win if it was the final stint. (or the drivers rammed each other off)
[+5-10s performance deficit that we can see by race end, obviously potentially higher if you paid attention]
RBR & Ferrari: Clear second tier, competitive with each other but ultimately fighting for #2 in the WDC and the third step of the podium on a weekend.
[60s+ usually lapped by race end]
Everyone else: no one in any other team had a shot at a ""genuine"" win or even podium.
Grid spread and car deltas were much higher, meaning many races started with all the drivers going 2 by 2 down the field or close to it.

The old fantasy league had you predict the race outcome (for the top 10) and you could just leave it the same for the whole year once you'd worked out which midfield team was 7-8 and which one was 9-10.

This is a typical early hybrid era result:

This week everyone finished on the lead lap with no safety car. Cut out Max's lead and 60s covers you to 10th place.
There are currently 5 teams, half the grid, who have been competing for race wins, podiums and poles this year. We've had drivers finish in wildly different positions all season.

If you're only watching it to see the race winner maybe just follow the sport on tiktok or something.

* - it turns out they were 100% right because your brains are all loving mush after watching Max give no fucks for optics and win by half a minute every week

2017-2020 weren�t like this. 2016 was at least compelling with Rosberg Vs. Hamilton. This season is, really,
really, really bad dude.

2014 and 2015, yeah I guess.

# ? Jul 31, 2023 01:46

spaceblancmange: Apr 19, 2018; #essereFerrari

didn't watch

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:04

marshalljim: Mar 6, 2013; yospos

I thought I was a little bored by the Spa race but then I watched half an hour of today's NASCAR Cup Series Cook Out 400 at Richmond Raceway. F1 is perfect and the greatest sport ever.

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:05

Khablam: Mar 29, 2012

Frond posted:

2017-2020 weren�t like this. 2016 was at least compelling with Rosberg Vs. Hamilton. This season is, really,
really, really bad dude.

2014 and 2015, yeah I guess.

The '22-'23 formula so far averages 40.5 overtakes per race.
'17-20 averaged 35.9 overtakes per race, which is considerably less when you factor in how many of those were Lewis/nico/max/dan starting p18 with penalties and gaining 15 places a race alone. These new cars are exceptionally reliable.
On track overtakes were very rare inside the top 6 and overwhelmingly rare for the lead.
I swear you sphere brains have absolutely no working or long-term memory and can only engage with the thing crofty or some "The Race" article is clickbaiting you with at that given second.
Do you not remember when 21 kicked off and people were like "WTF there's been a on-track pass for the lead in an F1 race!?!?"

You had two in this race.

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:10

F1DriverQuidenBerg: Jan 19, 2014

imagine having Tony post lengths with the Tony racism removed and being nowhere near as likeable lmfao

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:13

Khablam: Mar 29, 2012

tony quidtana posted:

imagine having Tony post lengths with the Tony racism removed and being nowhere near as likeable lmfao

March 6th, 2018: "They should just remove the halo" - tony quidtana

Get back in your hole.

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:15

Rectal Placenta: Feb 25, 2011

Honestly, Aggressive Khablam has been the most intriguing thing of the season so far

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:17

Cimber: Feb 3, 2014

Jesus, the summer break seems so long already judging by this thread. When is the next race? :/

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:26

Rectal Placenta: Feb 25, 2011

Sorry, season has been cancelled

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:29

Feels Villeneuve: Oct 7, 2007; Setter is Better.

Khablam posted:

You're just wrong.
2014-2020, bar subtle changes, looked like this every week

Merc: Untouchable. Applied massive amounts of sandbags because they thought people would revolt if they won races by 30s*. Sometimes they'd gently caress up this balance and actually be assailable, but usually for just one stint of a race giving someone a chance to win if it was the final stint. (or the drivers rammed each other off)
[+5-10s performance deficit that we can see by race end, obviously potentially higher if you paid attention]
RBR & Ferrari: Clear second tier, competitive with each other but ultimately fighting for #2 in the WDC and the third step of the podium on a weekend.
[60s+ usually lapped by race end]
Everyone else: no one in any other team had a shot at a ""genuine"" win or even podium.
Grid spread and car deltas were much higher, meaning many races started with all the drivers going 2 by 2 down the field or close to it.

The old fantasy league had you predict the race outcome (for the top 10) and you could just leave it the same for the whole year once you'd worked out which midfield team was 7-8 and which one was 9-10.

This is a typical early hybrid era result:

This week everyone finished on the lead lap with no safety car. Cut out Max's lead and 60s covers you to 10th place.
There are currently 5 teams, half the grid, who have been competing for race wins, podiums and poles this year. We've had drivers finish in wildly different positions all season.

If you're only watching it to see the race winner maybe just follow the sport on tiktok or something.

* - it turns out they were 100% right because your brains are all loving mush after watching Max give no fucks for optics and win by half a minute every week

A lot of those seasons sucked rear end op. Thank you. The nintendo switch is epic.

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:31

Feels Villeneuve: Oct 7, 2007; Setter is Better.

What kind of an argument is that. "the 2015 formula one season was also bad". No poo poo idiot. Die. Die. Die!!!!

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:33

spaceblancmange: Apr 19, 2018; #essereFerrari

Feels Villeneuve posted:

The nintendo switch is epic.

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:36

Feels Villeneuve: Oct 7, 2007; Setter is Better.

It is a truly goated console.

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:37

wicka: Jun 28, 2007

Khablam posted:

The '22-'23 formula so far averages 40.5 overtakes per race.
'17-20 averaged 35.9 overtakes per race, which is considerably less when you factor in how many of those were Lewis/nico/max/dan starting p18 with penalties and gaining 15 places a race alone. These new cars are exceptionally reliable.
On track overtakes were very rare inside the top 6 and overwhelmingly rare for the lead.
I swear you sphere brains have absolutely no working or long-term memory and can only engage with the thing crofty or some "The Race" article is clickbaiting you with at that given second.
Do you not remember when 21 kicked off and people were like "WTF there's been a on-track pass for the lead in an F1 race!?!?"

You had two in this race.

The numbers spell disaster for Max at Sacrifice

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:44

Judge Schnoopy: Nov 2, 2005; dont even TRY it, pal

Lewis to Max is as Tony to khablam

Move over old man, there a new piece of poo poo to hate in town, and he's much better at it

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:44

FAUXTON: Jun 2, 2005; spero che tu stia bene

Rectal Placenta posted:

Honestly, Aggressive Khablam has been the most intriguing thing of the season so far

what a loving garbage season

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:46

Feels Villeneuve: Oct 7, 2007; Setter is Better.

The 2023 tour de france. drat what a race. Even has a Netflix special for the Amerikkkans.

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:47

Sunk Dunk: Apr 14, 2021

i just hope all of the drivers are having fun

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:48

smackfu: Jun 7, 2004

Khablam posted:

You had two in this race.

Well one overtake for the lead was due to Max taking a gearbox penalty and not starting on pole and just getting back to where he should have been.

What was the other one?

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:49

BabyFur Denny: Mar 18, 2003

smackfu posted:

Well one overtake for the lead was due to Max taking a gearbox penalty and not starting on pole and just getting back to where he should have been.

What was the other one?

Perez going past Leclerc

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:52

Jon Carbuncle: Sep 21, 2002; Soiled Meat

wicka posted:

The numbers spell disaster for Max at Sacrifice

I don�t think checo even has a 33 and a 1/3 chance though.

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:52

Panic! At The Tesco: Aug 19, 2005; FART

hold on guys just need to whip out the ol' calculator and cross reference some stats to decide if im enjoying the season lol

# ? Jul 31, 2023 02:56

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester: Oct 3, 2000

spaceblancmange posted:

didn't watch

F1 has been TD;DW since 2022 for me (too Dutch; didn't watch)

# ? Jul 31, 2023 03:06

F1DriverQuidenBerg: Jan 19, 2014

Khablam posted:

March 6th, 2018: "They should just remove the halo" - tony quidtana

Get back in your hole.

ohh no did I hurt your feelings lmao

# ? Jul 31, 2023 03:17

Sab0921: Aug 2, 2004; This for my justices slingin' thangs, rib breakin' kings / Truck, necklace, robe, gavel and things / For the solicitors seein' them dissents spin and grin / That robe with the lace trim that win.

If Max DNF's the next 5 races in a row and Checo wins and gets the fastest lap in each - we got ourselves a new season folks.

Checo WDC 2023 still happening.

# ? Jul 31, 2023 03:20

net work error: Feb 26, 2011

Just realized that with my parents cancelling their Netflix subscription I will not be watching the next season of drive to survive welp. Not signing up for that garbage just for that.

# ? Jul 31, 2023 03:21

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# ? May 29, 2024 02:09

Frond: Mar 12, 2018

Feels Villeneuve posted:

A lot of those seasons sucked rear end op. Thank you. The nintendo switch is epic.

2020 on paper looks bad but it had some really good races. Some of the best of the 1.6L era.

# ? Jul 31, 2023 04:00

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