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maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
My roommate went from a one layover flight from LAX to Mississippi for a school to 7 layovers and 21 hours of travel because 7 layovers was $10 less. The civilians involved in anything related to travel are just bad people

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Cerekk
Sep 24, 2004

Oh my god, JC!

maffew buildings posted:

My roommate went from a one layover flight from LAX to Mississippi for a school to 7 layovers and 21 hours of travel because 7 layovers was $10 less. The civilians involved in anything related to travel are just bad people

I'm not saying your roommate is a liar, but the city pair bidding formula strongly weights lower number of layovers (even at higher price), and also I have never seen DTS even return a result with more than 2 stops in CONUS

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


DTS poo poo the bed on me over cancelling a flight due to back to back orders and it took me 5 weeks of calling ever other day until it was deemed important enough to get someone with the proper authority to nudge the system to allow me to create a voucher.

“Just ignore the requests to pay off your card you got 70 days”.

Hrm.

Deus Ex Macklemore
Jul 2, 2004


Zelensky's Zealots
I had a fun time years ago in the era of paper tickets. My ex And I were PCSing from Connecticut to La Madd. We were supposed to go from Hartford to Cincinnati to Rome. After we boarded the plane in Hartford the weather in Cincinnati was so bad that we couldn't take off, so they brought us back to the terminal and we all unloaded. That's great, but I still have to get to Italy.

The next day I drove down to Groton and went to the travel desk and explained what happened. The clerk said she needed to see the ticket so I gave the paper tickets back to her. She looked at them and looked at me and said, this isn't the whole ticket, it's only the boarding pass.

I told her that the airlines kept the ticket because we got on the plane but couldn't take off. She slid the tickets back to me and very smugly said, well I can't do anything for you because there's no way to prove that you didn't use these tickets.

I look at her and said, yes you're correct. I'm in Rome right now.

She realized what was going on then and very happily got us rescheduled.

Plus we were taking two cats with us so now we had to go through the process of getting them back in the crate for a long flight 2 days later. Also The ship was out to see so I couldn't get a hold of anybody to let them know I was going to be late and I was in an extreme panic thinking I would be marked UA. I was not.

Cerekk
Sep 24, 2004

Oh my god, JC!
When the submarine force was getting ready to put women on subs, they picked a batch of O-3 supply officers to go onboard as department heads at the same time as the brand new nuke Ensigns and serve as experienced mentors and advocates for women during the integration process.

Then like 4 of them got caught defrauding the government by loading up their DITY moving trucks with water-filled air mattresses right before getting the "full" weight and they had to find a new batch of supply officers.

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


So back in the day I got orders to a C school while underway. No biggie, we pull into Cartegena and I have a few days of liberty then wave goodbye to the ship and get into a taxi to the airport. At the airport, they tell me I don't have a ticket (in very broken english). I keep saying basically, "I must have a ticket, here are my orders and here is my ticket info, I need to get on that plane."

Eventually the poor lady behind the counter gives up and I get on the plane. Point. Me.

We fly to Bogota, it's a very nice flight. They let us out on the tarmac and we get into a bus. I end up meeting up with a guy who is bilingual on the bus from deplaning to the 'real' terminal. He ends up behind me in line for the next counter where again I am told I don't have a ticket. Some more back and forth in very broken english (and my near zero spanish) and the guy behind me steps in to help translate. Excellent, now we get somewhere. Turns out the government ordered my tickets but never paid for them. Easy, just pay for the tickets. Except I am a broke rear end E-3 at the time, with no gov travel card, and nowhere near enough money in my account to pay for these tickets. I probably could have paid for them but then that liability would have been on me and as we all know getting reimbursed is always easy. So I stand my ground and keep saying, "Well, I have these orders and I have to get on the plane." Eventually, they also relent, and on I go. I even got an exit stamp for leaving the country. Even my luggage makes it, which is perfect. Point. Me.

Plane lands in Atlanta/Heartsfield and the customs agent starts giving me poo poo. Exit stamp, no entry stamp. No paid ticket. One way trip. etc. He's even skeptical after I hand him my orders, bro I'm on military orders if I wanted to smuggle coke I'd have just kept it in my bunk. I am also thinking that my luggage is for sure going to pop on some scanner for either explosive residue or drug residue.

Eventually get past customs and to another gate where they really won't let me board without a paid ticket, no amount of orders-pointing or shoulder-shrugging will make due, so I toss this flight on my credit card and on I go. My luggage even makes it. Everything is coming up millhouse.

Land in Newport News. Now, I am wearing shorts and a t-shirt, and the heaviest thing I packed is a light windbreaker. it was a Caribbean patrol why would I pack heavy poo poo? I didn't anticipate C-school in Virginia in November. So I'm pretty cold. Whatever, I have some warm uniform stuff, ODUs are plenty warm and it's an inside class. But, my luggage never made it out of Atlanta. Point...Not me.

Now I am a smart enough guy to run to the exchange before reporting to class, but the best I can find is a Coast Guard Hoodie and Coast Guard Sweatpants. So everyone else is in Tropical Blue, Long uniforms and I'm in the CG dependent special. Instructors come in and I am prepared for an rear end chewing but they just laugh and go "Somebody's luggage is hosed every class."

It ended up being a really good school, and was well worth it but definitely wouldn't want to do that travel again.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
Thats just a classic, water jugs and cinder blocks. Hardly fraud at all, unless you're loading like 3 tons worth.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Cerekk posted:

Then like 4 of them got caught defrauding the government by loading up their DITY moving trucks with water-filled air mattresses right before getting the "full" weight and they had to find a new batch of supply officers.

This is still a famous incident, I guess they specifically warn the female O's before they report to sub school about it.

Elendil004 posted:

Plane lands in Atlanta/Heartsfield and the customs agent starts giving me poo poo. Exit stamp, no entry stamp. No paid ticket. One way trip. etc. He's even skeptical after I hand him my orders, bro I'm on military orders if I wanted to smuggle coke I'd have just kept it in my bunk. I am also thinking that my luggage is for sure going to pop on some scanner for either explosive residue or drug residue.

I flew out to meet my first boat in Haakonsvern circa 2014.

3 year later, deployed to EUCOM again, I got news that my dad died, a couple weeks later we BSPd in Tromsø to load some dudes for the next mission, and I got off the boat to fly home, one of our officers who was coming back to the boat shoved my plane tickets in my hand as we crossed paths in the p-way.

At customs in Oslo, they were pretty upset that I had, apparently, flown into Norway, stayed there without a Visa for 3 and a half years, and was only now trying to leave. My story of "I got on a submarine, left, and came back by submarine" was a little suspicious. A quick call to the local NATO rep had a copy of my NATO orders faxed over from 6th fleet in short order, but I love telling the story of being detained by Norwegian authorities for illegal immigration.

Cerekk
Sep 24, 2004

Oh my god, JC!

M_Gargantua posted:

Thats just a classic, water jugs and cinder blocks. Hardly fraud at all, unless you're loading like 3 tons worth.

Apparently the Navy did not find the "it was only minor fraud" argument compelling coming from officers whose job it is to disburse the government's money

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

Dang, dealing with customs must be different than the last time i flew international.

20 years ago your military id was the only thing you needed, they would escort you through customs without a single stop or question, getting through customs literally took however much time to walk through the hallway.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Cerekk posted:

Apparently the Navy did not find the "it was only minor fraud" argument compelling coming from officers whose job it is to disburse the government's money

Having a CHOP willing to commit fraud to get you what you need is a positive quality.

The real issue is they weren't good enough at fraud.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Flyinglemur posted:

I told her that the airlines kept the ticket because we got on the plane but couldn't take off. She slid the tickets back to me and very smugly said, well I can't do anything for you because there's no way to prove that you didn't use these tickets.

I look at her and said, yes you're correct. I'm in Rome right now.

I had a guy who got this same line recently while trying to get reimbursed for a plane ticket he bought (long story short, it was TDY in conjunction with leave and totally within bounds of the JTR). "Well that's only the emailed receipt, I need the actual boarding pass to prove you didn't just get the ticket refunded and pocket the money". I couldn't loving believe it. Like, what, he canceled the ticket and then hitchhiked back across the country?

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

I nearly got detained at SFO flying back to Norway in 2007, because I forgot that the XO gave me a NATO travel order for a reason. They were very curious about how I got into the country without any record of it happening :v:

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

titties posted:

Dang, dealing with customs must be different than the last time i flew international.

20 years ago your military id was the only thing you needed, they would escort you through customs without a single stop or question, getting through customs literally took however much time to walk through the hallway.

When I flew on orders (no passport) to Italy it was way smoother than I thought it would be, but the airport was right next to a naval base so I assume they saw that a lot.

I work with a guy who was flying on orders and got detained in Saudi Arabia for 14 hours and didn't have a pleasant experience.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

PneumonicBook posted:

When I flew on orders (no passport) to Italy it was way smoother than I thought it would be, but the airport was right next to a naval base so I assume they saw that a lot.

I work with a guy who was flying on orders and got detained in Saudi Arabia for 14 hours and didn't have a pleasant experience.

Happened in de Gaul, once. Not 14 hours, but the customs guy was like "gently caress your ID and orders that isn't a real passport"
That's why I always carry my official passport, just in case I run into that one official who decided to gently caress with the GI that day.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

Stultus Maximus posted:

Happened in de Gaul, once. Not 14 hours, but the customs guy was like "gently caress your ID and orders that isn't a real passport"
That's why I always carry my official passport, just in case I run into that one official who decided to gently caress with the GI that day.

Last time I was in France, I stepped off a boat, carrying a gun.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Considering the amount of poo poo I’ve caught from American customs in my life, lol, lmao

Pulled into Miami on a cruise ship once, and while the USCG did the port state control immigration decided they needed to fingerprint the entire loving crew.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Wibla posted:

Last time I was in France, I stepped off a boat, carrying a gun.

Thank you for your service Captain Miller

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

Cerekk posted:

I'm not saying your roommate is a liar, but the city pair bidding formula strongly weights lower number of layovers (even at higher price), and also I have never seen DTS even return a result with more than 2 stops in CONUS

congrats on never dealing with the civilians who do admin for the naval construction force my man

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

We got told we were gonna pull into Brest, like, over a dozen times. We never did.

OPAONI
Jul 23, 2021

Elviscat posted:

We got told we were gonna pull into Brest, like, over a dozen times. We never did.

They meant Breast. Your mother was onboard.

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

Elviscat posted:

We got told we were gonna pull into Brest, like, over a dozen times. We never did.

For sale: Brest port, never moored

Thronde
Aug 4, 2012

Fun Shoe
I'm exiled from Qatar for life for Arms smuggling :smuggo:

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

Elviscat posted:

We got told we were gonna pull into Brest, like, over a dozen times. We never did.

That's where we pulled in, on the way to the med for OAE :v:

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

titties posted:

Dang, dealing with customs must be different than the last time i flew international.

20 years ago your military id was the only thing you needed, they would escort you through customs without a single stop or question, getting through customs literally took however much time to walk through the hallway.

In 2008, we spent an hour on a C-17 after landing at home station. Then three hours sitting on the floor of a hangar. The squadron's families were sitting in an auditorium waiting, because it was too hot to let them greet us on the ramp (which Customs would not have allowed anyway).

Same Customs office had a former AWACS crewmember who love to do stupid poo poo like pull interior panels off E-3s returning from overseas, because he "knows where people stash stuff." He never found a loving thing worse than a kinder egg.

Godholio fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Jul 31, 2023

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Godholio posted:

Same Customs office had a former AWACS crewmember who love to do stupid poo poo like pull interior panels off E-3s returning from overseas, because he "knows where people stash stuff." He never found a loving thing worse than a kinder egg.

The best places to smuggle stuff on an airplane aren’t inside the cabin of the airplane.

bloody ghost titty
Oct 23, 2008

MrYenko posted:

The best places to smuggle stuff on an airplane aren’t inside the cabin of the airplane.

Is it inside the aircrew

windshipper
Jun 19, 2006

Dr. Whet Faartz would like to know if this smells funny to you?

bloody ghost titty posted:

Is it inside the aircrew

That’s where I like to smuggle my booze!

Jimmy Smuts
Aug 8, 2000

windshipper posted:

That’s where I like to smuggle my booze!
Can one get drunk off of airplane fluids like with Russian aircraft? I'm tracking that inhaling a bunch of aircraft O2 in order to kill a hangover is a thing.

Burt
Sep 23, 2007

Poke.



I was once working on a rig offshore Israel. Flew into Tel Aviv, go to immigration, stamp stamp, "Welcome to Israel, enjoy your stay," thanks very much, off I go.

Drive down to Ashdod, go out to rig, do the necessary for a couple of weeks, come back in on the boat at Ashdod about 7 in the evening.

Go to immigration, lone heavily pregnant lady with zero English at the counter, hand over passport. The same passport that has a multiple entry Iraqi visa.

I got out of there at 4am.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Jimmy Smuts posted:

Can one get drunk off of airplane fluids like with Russian aircraft? I'm tracking that inhaling a bunch of aircraft O2 in order to kill a hangover is a thing.

Oh that is ABSOLUTELY a thing.

AWACS uses SF6 in the radar system, but that just fucks with your voice like an anti-helium.

Mr. Bad Guy
Jun 28, 2006
CG division is inventorying all of our remaining small arms before we give them to another ship, and I made a joke, asking about how many they're allowed to lose track of before its a problem and their LPO absolutely demolished me with, "you are the last person that should be involved in any way with this process, haven't you learned your lesson?" I'm so glad I didn't actually lose rank over it, I don't know if ide be able to laugh about it then. I told him if it turned out they actually had extras they needed "taken care of", he knew who to find me.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Mr. Bad Guy posted:

CG division is inventorying all of our remaining small arms before we give them to another ship, and I made a joke, asking about how many they're allowed to lose track of before its a problem and their LPO absolutely demolished me with, "you are the last person that should be involved in any way with this process, haven't you learned your lesson?" I'm so glad I didn't actually lose rank over it, I don't know if ide be able to laugh about it then. I told him if it turned out they actually had extras they needed "taken care of", he knew who to find me.

Not only owning it but skating on the edge.

Mr. Bad Guy
Jun 28, 2006
Precedence has been set, now I'm the SME.

Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019


Username/post combo, A+++++ WDBWA.

TheWeedNumber
Apr 20, 2020

by sebmojo

Mr. Bad Guy posted:

CG division is inventorying all of our remaining small arms before we give them to another ship, and I made a joke, asking about how many they're allowed to lose track of before its a problem and their LPO absolutely demolished me with, "you are the last person that should be involved in any way with this process, haven't you learned your lesson?" I'm so glad I didn't actually lose rank over it, I don't know if ide be able to laugh about it then. I told him if it turned out they actually had extras they needed "taken care of", he knew who to find me.

disassembling guns on watch guy?

LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

TheWeedNumber posted:

disassembling guns on watch guy?

Correct.

TheWeedNumber
Apr 20, 2020

by sebmojo

i thought he wasn't CG?

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?
I'd imagine it's CG as in guided missile cruiser and not Coast Guard.

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Mr. Bad Guy
Jun 28, 2006
CG division - Combat (Systems) Guns, even though they're Weapons department, because Surface Navy, lol. I'm CM, Combat (Systems, also Weapons department) Missiles. I was just shooting the poo poo with them.

Robert Facepalmer posted:

Username/post combo, A+++++ WDBWA.

DBW?

Mr. Bad Guy fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Aug 3, 2023

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