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TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
that guys a fuckin nerd


e: :byetankie: :utruck: :byetankie:

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FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
            Death is but a door. Time is but a window. I'll be back.
                          /

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Flavahbeast posted:

The Scourge of Carpathia, The Sorrow of Moldavia

Babylonian busboy, Macedonian mechanic, Jerusalem beerbrewer, Alexandrian goatskinner, swineherd of Upper and Lower Egypt, Armenian pig, Tatar goat, Kamenets hangman, Podolian thief, …

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

beer_war posted:

https://twitter.com/ScottLucas_EA/status/1686082571942174720?s=20

Goddamn, first Hersh becomes a literal meme, now this.

hersh was kinda hosed since that JFK stories and assad finished him. I remember this guy used to be way more credible. guess not.

Victis
Mar 26, 2008

Dapper_Swindler posted:

hersh was kinda hosed since that JFK stories and assad finished him. I remember this guy used to be way more credible. guess not.

idk anything about Mearsheimer prior to 2014 but he's been in lockstep with "this is 100% the West/NATO's fault" as far as Ukraine is concerned

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 14 hours!

beer_war posted:

https://twitter.com/ScottLucas_EA/status/1686082571942174720?s=20

Goddamn, first Hersh becomes a literal meme, now this.

this dude is an idiot

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

FMguru posted:

            Death is but a door. Time is but a window. I'll be back.
                          /

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/31/7413649/

quote:

Traffic on the Crimean Bridge has been blocked off in occupied Crimea. The media report on evacuation from the railway station on the bridge.
Details: The reason for the traffic stop is not specified. Those on the bridge and in the inspection area were urged to "remain calm and follow the instructions of transport security officers".

Updated: Krym.Realii with reference to Russian and Crimean Telegram channels reports about the evacuation at the Kerch-Pivdenna railway station. According to anonymous Telegram-channels, a call about a mining threat was made.

Background:

In the evening, Crimean Telegram channels reported that an air defence system had been responding in Simferopol, allegedly repelling a drone attack. Oleg Kryuchkov, an adviser to the Russian "head of Crimea", called the information "Ukrainian disinformation".
Mein monke.....

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

HonorableTB posted:

That bridge span will have to be replaced before it can support any kind of rail traffic. It has a ten foot sag in the middle of the bridge between support struts lol

They're sending out the guy that just stands there with a sign to have a photo taken





Join the army, if you fail

Look out kid

You’re gonna get hit

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

appropriatemetaphor posted:

motherland monument getting its soviet symbols removed quicker than I thought. Aug 24 scheduled completion.

https://twitter.com/United24media/status/1685714355269038080?s=20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAIyB5hjWDg

i mean, it is facing west

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1686027606158643200

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmGB6mIwuak

Lmao just casual loving racism on state TV...again.

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Flavahbeast posted:

The Scourge of Carpathia, The Sorrow of Moldavia

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

appropriatemetaphor posted:

motherland monument getting its soviet symbols removed quicker than I thought. Aug 24 scheduled completion.

https://twitter.com/United24media/status/1685714355269038080?s=20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAIyB5hjWDg

"that's nice and all but right now I'd rather the funds be spent on drones"

yeah I get where that guy's coming from, but it's still heartening to see

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
it's also not like you can fire the construction workers and hire a bunch of qualified mechanical and aeronautical engineers. or decommission the cranes and turn those into pistons for drone parts.

plowshares into swords this ain't

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
https://twitter.com/douglaslondon5/status/1683912123775082509?s=20

https://twitter.com/BrianWellbelove/status/1682677434368372736?s=20

more dead billies

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1686135173161648130#m
Kharkiv was once again attacked, this time with more suicide drones. There are hits on the infrastructure. Explosions were also reported in Kramatorsk.

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

"Spyware billionaire"?

god please help me
Jul 9, 2018
I LOVE GIVING MY TAX MONEY AND MY PERSONAL INCOME TO UKRAINE, SLAVA
I wonder again why exactly the billionaires are getting killed. Did they show even a slight disappointment about the war?

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Should I hand it to Putin for killing a bunch of billionaires because he's terrified of losing power....?

I feel like that would be handing it to ISIS.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.
we probably just found out who backed pringles

weg
Jun 6, 2006

Reassisted Retrogression

god please help me posted:

I wonder again why exactly the billionaires are getting killed. Did they show even a slight disappointment about the war?

Local autocrat has one weird trick to convert private capital into government funds. Oligarchs hate him!

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
Going back to the bridge discussion earlier, Kherson cat agrees with my assessment

HonorableTB posted:

Yeah, which would divert more traffic than usual over to the rail bridge, which just got hit as well. Unless the road bridge is repaired enough to handle the weight of armor and supply trucks, those have to go by rail which is now impossible, so now they have to deploy around the other side of the peninsula near Kherson and that's a swampy shithole of a bottleneck



The area near Chaplynka is within Ukrainian artillery range from Kherson so any supplies going that way would risk being shelled

Any military on the planet would take pontoon bridges over permanent bridge structures as far as disrupting logistics and maneuver goes. Unfortunately pontoon bridges at this point would probably be more useful to Russia than the real bridge because Ukraine won't waste HIMARS or Storm Shadows on a pontoon bridge (in my opinion) and they aren't within normal artillery distance of that crossing. Of course I'm not Zaluzhny so I could be totally wrong but that's how it looks to me

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1686013124971823104?s=20

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
Lol but it's totally Ukraine snatching people off the street and forcibly conscripting them :rolleyes:

https://kyivindependent.com/intelligence-russia-has-forcibly-mobilized-up-to-60-000-men-in-occupied-territories/


quote:

Since the beginning of 2022, Russia has forcibly mobilized from 55,000 to 60,000 men in the occupied territories of Ukraine, military intelligence spokesperson Andrii Cherniak said on July 30.

"The occupiers caught people on the street, they came to the few businesses that were still working and forcibly took people away - they simply dressed the people up and sent them to the front," Cherniak told Donbas Realii, a project of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty.

"They (Russian forces) promised that the mobilized would be on the second or third line, but in reality, people ended up on the front line."

In particular, Russia is mobilizing students residing in occupied Ukrainian cities into its military, according to the intelligence official.

"A person went to class in the morning and two days later they are already fighting (against Ukrainian forces). Strictly speaking, Russia does not consider the residents of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts as human beings, so the occupiers do not care, the laws do not apply. The only real possibility [to survive] is to surrender immediately, at the first opportunity," Cherniak added in the interview.

Russia currently occupies parts of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, and Mykolaiv oblasts as well the entire Crimean peninsula.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Nelson Mandingo posted:

Should I hand it to Putin for killing a bunch of billionaires because he's terrified of losing power....?

I feel like that would be handing it to ISIS.

If you think Putin's the only person who can assassinate people in Putin's Russia lol.


There's an entire factional war occuring in the background at all times. Between oligarchs, divisions of government and local regions. Everyone is constantly vying for power in the higher levels and sometimes knifing an enemy is the best way to achieve goals. Sure some of these are getting killed by Putin, but others may be hits against his apparatus.

You just can't tell until more evidence arises, but chemical gas poisoning is basically straight out of the FSB handbook so it's likely.


Here's a book I recommend picking up for some leisure reading.

From Russia with Blood: The Kremlin's Ruthless Assassination Program and Vladimir Putin's Secret War on the West https://a.co/d/422M898

Its a fairly good depiction of how the state operates as a whole and also how the government uses different groups for different levels of assassination.

It's also got a couple extremely insane stories inside of it in terms of intricate ways Putin has assassinated people.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Aug 1, 2023

Zeromus
Dec 11, 2004

HonorableTB posted:

Going back to the bridge discussion earlier, Kherson cat agrees with my assessment

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1686013124971823104?s=20

Nice, I hope Russia gets completely hosed. Just their whole military structure collapse in Ukraine.

edit: Motherfucker, I make like 3 posts in 10 years and wasn't even rewarded a Hillary Avatar. Disappointed.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006
Some bridge related comedy:



as an aside, I don't think Ukraine has ever launched more than 4 storm shadows at once and all the pantsir "shoot down" videos they've released seem to conclude with the storm shadow hitting it's target...

Oscar Wilde Bunch
Jun 12, 2012

Grimey Drawer

Easy, there's a consequence to being attached to Putin's pants, joke there for the first one.

For the second, maybe he really did have cancer (that someone probably gave him)? What's the chances of anti Putin factions offing people as well?

Rad Russian
Aug 15, 2007

Soviet Power Supreme!

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

There's an entire factional war occuring in the background at all times. Between oligarchs, divisions of government and local regions. Everyone is constantly vying for power in the higher levels and sometimes knifing an enemy is the best way to achieve goals. Sure some of these are getting killed by Putin, but others may be hits against his apparatus.

And almost all of Russia's billionaires are virtual billionaires by virtue of Putin making them a vassal and giving them ownership of a specific company or industry. If they die, another one will simply be appointed to take their place (and become a billionaire overnight).

Even though all the big vassals owe their whole existence to Putin, the next layer of vassals in the mafia system is harder to pinpoint with loyalty. They might be more loyal to another bigger vassal who gave them their position vs Putin directly. Basically, medieval drama plays out if there are in fact multiple factions forming.

Rad Russian fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Aug 1, 2023

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 14 hours!
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1686181662172827648

Bluemillion
Aug 18, 2008

I got your dispensers
right here

HonorableTB posted:

Going back to the bridge discussion earlier, Kherson cat agrees with my assessment

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1686013124971823104?s=20

Uh, why aren't they supplying the southern front from the eastern border with Russia?

tiaz
Jul 1, 2004

PICK UP THAT PRESENT.


Zelensky's Zealots

Bluemillion posted:

Uh, why aren't they supplying the southern front from the eastern border with Russia?

They do but those highways and rail lines are within range of the longer-range weapons available to Ukraine (from Ukrainian-controlled territory). It's not a death sentence but it is desirable to avoid.

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 14 hours!
Honest question - wouldn't it be better to use the drones to target military bases in Moscow where they store missiles and drones, rather than aiming them at government buildings? I know that Ukraine wants to scare Russians to convince them to protest against the war and have Putin pull out, but I think it's just going to make them angry and not help much in the long run

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

Bluemillion posted:

Uh, why aren't they supplying the southern front from the eastern border with Russia?

Ukrainian railroads are a different gauge than Russian ones and Ukraine specifically spent a lot of time, money, and energy tearing up railroad crossings from Russia into Ukraine to make it harder for an invasion to move supplies by rail in the event Russia captured Ukrainian railway hubs. Ukrainian gauge is 1520mm (known as broad gauge) and Russia uses 1524mm and is called the "Russian gauge" because Russia was paranoid about invaders using Soviet railways, ironically. Even if they used every bit of logistics capacity on the border of eastern Ukraine and western Russia, they'd still hit that bottleneck. It's one of the reasons why they jumped off the invasion in the east after moving in to occupy Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts first where they already had control. It let Russia use the Ukrainian rails and rolling stock to aid the initial push

HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Aug 1, 2023

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!

they painted giant googly eyes on it

incredible

Carlos Lantana
Oct 2, 2003

I'm really sorry, your avatar is giving me a boner and while that is perfectly OK and I don't want to kink shame anyone, its making me feel really weird getting a boner in a Trump thread.

Sincerely,

Jailbrekr
Huffing xenon is a thing in Russia
Hamilton did a bit on it and says he's never been higher.

Zippy the Bummer
Dec 14, 2008

Silent Majority
The Don
LORD COMMANDER OF THE UKRAINIAN ARMED FORCES
https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1686172253304582149

The furry lovers Bravely attacked a Russian bush in the high intensity combatzone of Bilhorod Oblast. The fairly stationary bush became an easy target and it's remains are located at 50.43929, 35.9069. To get an understanding for their bravery, the border is 2km away. pic.twitter.com/T3hxWujHFe

— Def Mon (@DefMon3) August 1, 2023


------------

Ramzan's boys blew up a shrub in russia



appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

Bluemillion posted:

Uh, why aren't they supplying the southern front from the eastern border with Russia?

Rail line basically goes through Donetsk very close to the frontline so Ukraine would blow up all their trains by clicking the "logistics strike" button. Picture yoinked from a X post

Bertha the Toaster
Jan 11, 2009
If this is true it really sells the message of "we did it once with ease and we can do it again any time we want".
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1686195481905410049

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


large hands posted:

Some bridge related comedy:



as an aside, I don't think Ukraine has ever launched more than 4 storm shadows at once and all the pantsir "shoot down" videos they've released seem to conclude with the storm shadow hitting it's target...

Really easily explained, comrade: one Pantsir shot down the first missile 50 miles out, another Pantsir shot down the Storm Shadow as it closed to 25 miles from the target, and a final Pantsir shot the missile down 1 mile from the target and ultimate point of impact.

This happens four times, in a brilliant display of what air defence doing? Twelve confirmed intercepts!

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Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Agent Blyaty-Seven strikes again.

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