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Terry van Feleday posted:I've actually decided to go back & watch the earlier 3 seasons of Bandori in advance of MyGO and it's been... An interesting experience. The 1st season I just found mediocre all around, after that it gets... Well, structurally it's a bit of a mess, and even as someone who has no beef with CG anime I think it's mostly just kind of ugly, but I find it oddly engaging. Season 1 sits in a weird spot of being (up until MyGO at least) the most easily digestible series as it's only focusing on one band of five characters, but it's also with the most plain of the groups - a lot of their more interesting bits got shaved off when the franchise was rebooted before the anime and game released. I didn't watch it until a pre-season 2 debut groupwatch because even back then most fans said it wasn't entirely worth the time to watch unless you're a big Poppin'Party fan. It's fine, and it does hit some emotional beats that MyGO grabs and runs even further with, and is also the only other of the series to give a more live feel to the music performances (seasons 2 and 3 just drop the studio recordings in) And agreed, even with the introductory episodes of the game-first bands, season 2 ends up messy and the air date gap between it and season 3 due to a delay didn't help the story flow at the time. There's a lot of changes I'd personally do to fix season 2/3 so it flows better, but at the expense of any sort of long introduction to the game-first groups...which honestly D4DJ did with its recent second season and it sort of worked, All Mix had other issues that made me rate it relatively low.
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KariOhki posted:Season 1 sits in a weird spot of being (up until MyGO at least) the most easily digestible series as it's only focusing on one band of five characters, but it's also with the most plain of the groups - a lot of their more interesting bits got shaved off when the franchise was rebooted before the anime and game released.
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Jul 31, 2023 15:31
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Terry van Feleday posted:I'm actually curious about this since I'm not at all familiar with the history here, can you tell me a bit more about this & what was changed? The original story was written as a light novel and adapted into a manga under the title BanG_Dream! (note the underscore) between 2015 and 2016. The overall tone of the series, which only involved Poppin'Party, was darker - Kasumi had more shades of depression over having no real path in life and was bullied, both Arisa and Saya had deceased parents, Tae was more shy, Rimi was a...ninja (I think also not well off financially?). After the reboot, everything was brightened up somewhat, while each of the characters still had issues finding their way, it wasn't as heavy, with Saya's arc in season 1 regarding her mother's sickness and CHiSPA being as sad as things tend to get. I don't know if there was ever any official reason given for why the franchise got a reboot and the original materials weren't officially translated and also never fully picked up by fans. MyGO basically takes what Poppin'Party was originally about and follows it completely through, and does so very well.
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Jul 31, 2023 16:45
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Dark Gathering ep1 and 2 was good, episode 3 I was kind of losing the vibe. But episode 4 is getting good again now that the characters are actually doing college things
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Jul 31, 2023 17:04
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GateOfD posted:this freaking cold open of Zombie 100 ep4 boring ep tbh really hoping the gang gets together soon, this one didn't even have the saving grace of introducing a new permanent cast member. it felt like it spent 20 minutes trying to find insight in asking a question that ep 1 raised pretty well on its own already (what do you want to do with your life -> what was your dream)
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Erg posted:boring ep tbh It probably didn't help that the eventual tension in the episode wasn't exactly great either. Like, this isn't exactly a serious zombie series so expecting it to be entirely consistent in the presentation of zombies isn't in the cards - and that's entirely fine - but come the gently caress on. You're telling me that after 3 episodes of everyone turning insanely quickly after a single bite, your tension this episode is coming from someone who just magically didn't turn for many hours before immediately flipping at an extremely inconvenient time? To say nothing of the group being incredibly insistent of checking THESE new arrivals for bites, but apparently never bothered to check the other arrival. From what I know of the series it's mostly up from here, but this definitely came across as something of a low point.
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Aug 1, 2023 01:27
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Zom 100 is pretty disappointing after that first episode. Probably won't continue watching.
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Aug 1, 2023 07:12
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If it didn't end up in "any woman that show any shade of kindness to the protagonist is going to die" i would have been less prone to just drop it. I'm giving it another episode to pull up. On the other end, lv1 demon lord has been spinning its wheels so much i dropped ti.
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SlowBloke posted:On the other end, lv1 demon lord has been spinning its wheels so much i dropped ti. They stopped spinning their wheels and started moving the plot forwards with the episode that just dropped, lol
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Aug 1, 2023 09:54
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:They stopped spinning their wheels and started moving the plot forwards with the episode that just dropped, lol Given the current sets of episodes they don't look like they'll pull an interesting le carrè spy story. The worldbuilding is sorta all over the place which is also another item i'm not terribly fond of.
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Aug 1, 2023 11:34
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Erg posted:boring ep tbh It won’t. At the pace it’s been going it’s going you aren’t going to get the full cast for a bunch of episodes yet. It took a long time for the manga to get the final character. It’s also going to keep addressing that question but in different situations and with different people and how they think/respond to it. While Akira is free of the company, he still doesn’t know what chasing his dreams looks like and so the show is going to constantly go back to him thinking about how he sees this in others and what he needs to do to get there.
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Aug 1, 2023 13:03
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dreams: sex with women how he gets there: gently caress woman difficulties: women die??? me sad  solution: women think like me??? hypothesis: not care women die if not think like me yaaaaaay
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Aug 1, 2023 13:39
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still in with Zom 100, like the vehicle on how different people respond to a life threatening crisis like this. in this case, get drunk as hell and some sexy time. there was a small thing where his friend helped to pull him out of a funk at the end where he might not be able to recover as fast. i don't know why people are expecting this series to be like The Last of Us or something
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Aug 1, 2023 15:47
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Tekken 3 Xiaoyu had the best ending https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzhoaqL8jD0
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I finally got around to starting BanG Dream MyGO and holy poo poo this 1st episode already absolutely rules lmao. 100% living up to the hype and then some
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Sakurazuka posted:Tekken 3 Xiaoyu had the best ending What did I just watch
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Terry van Feleday posted:I finally got around to starting BanG Dream MyGO and holy poo poo this 1st episode already absolutely rules lmao. 100% living up to the hype and then some I’ve watched 5 episodes so far and I’m completely on board.
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Kwyndig posted:What did I just watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b77ij3YPadM
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Man, I don't know what's going on with Helck. It's got this weird schizophrenic vibe where they can't seem to decide what loving genre they are in. The audio mixing is loving awful in that all the background music/sounds are super muted and feel like you're underwater. You can barely hear the BG music half the time, even if you're listening for it, which just leads to that weird feeling empty quiet vibe when it's apparently supposed to be a high-stakes fight. It feels, like, super cheap and scattershot. I really am not getting why people were so excited for this show at all.
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It was always misplaced hype coming from people liking the source material, which itself isn't something I'd call consistent in tone early on or groundbreaking generally.
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Sakurazuka posted:Tekken 3 Xiaoyu had the best ending Nobody does it like Tekken.
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Nitrousoxide posted:The audio mixing is loving awful in that all the background music/sounds are super muted and feel like you're underwater. I mean, these aspects weren't exactly part of the manga
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GateOfD posted:still in with Zom 100, like the vehicle on how different people respond to a life threatening crisis like this. in this case, get drunk as hell and some sexy time. there was a small thing where his friend helped to pull him out of a funk at the end where he might not be able to recover as fast. I don’t want it to be like the last of us, I want it to be fun like the first 2.5 eps like the low point of this show so far was spending 5 minutes trying to make some poignant death scene out of a girl who clearly existed to just spoon feed the theme of the ep The op makes it so obvious which characters you’re supposed to care about that it deflated any chance that scene had of landing
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Nitrousoxide posted:Man, I don't know what's going on with Helck. It's got this weird schizophrenic vibe where they can't seem to decide what loving genre they are in. The audio mixing is loving awful in that all the background music/sounds are super muted and feel like you're underwater. It's like lucifer and the biscuit hammer, good source material, subpar adaptation. It's not that big a mystery.
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caught up with everything this afternoon zom 100 hasn't ever really done anything as interesting or fun as it could have with the idea of its lead being happy about living through a zombie apocalypse because of being in a black company and i viewed the problems of the last episode as just more of the same in that regard. it looks great and the concept is fun, but i think it's worse than it feels like it should be, which is a bummer. the last episode of helck was rougher than the rest (some of the shots of people flying where they just kinda slid static images of characters around the screen were really bad) but i'm kind of interested in what happens next after the portal and it's just barely good enough for me to blow 20 minutes of my life on. should probably just read the manga.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Man, I don't know what's going on with Helck. It's got this weird schizophrenic vibe where they can't seem to decide what loving genre they are in. Production stuff aside, this was always my worry with any possible adaptation--Helck veers between silly gags and shonen action, sometimes in the same scene, and while it's effective in the manga it's probably tough to pull off in animation. If you find that contrast offputting, it's not going to get any better. quote:I really am not getting why people were so excited for this show at all. We liked the manga and wanted to be optimistic...
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Endorph posted:dreams: sex with women lmao
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Helck was okay this week. Some of those zoom out shots from the winged warrior dude were kinda jank though, really blurry up close before they panned back.
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Captain Invictus posted:people who read the manga know what happens in it and know it's good, while the anime adaptation apparently is floundering So it's another garbage adaption? Sigh...why am I not surprised.
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later on the manga gets into very flashy, large scale battles and i do not think this adaptation can handle it. oh well, it's watchable at least.
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it's helck with average animation. it's nowhere near as busted as what i saw of the biscuit hammer anime
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Agronox posted:We liked the manga and wanted to be optimistic... It's this, nothing more complicated going on. I'm still enjoying the show and will continue watching because it's not offensively bad it's just not amazing. Tales of Woe posted:it's helck with average animation. it's nowhere near as busted as what i saw of the biscuit hammer anime ...yet 
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I'll give the Helck manga a shot instead of the anime. I don't want to dislike it and since this one got such gushing praise I'm willing to give the other medium a shot.
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I think the Helck manga is good, but you also have to recognize the praise for it as being a product of the excitement of when it was coming out at a rate of like a chapter a day, particularly during a very memorable and important part of the story. It's as much the memory of the experience as the quality of the story itself. Still a good read though, and the general art style is one of my favorites. The art style is simple but with sufficient detail and uniqueness to characters.
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Tales of Woe posted:it's helck with average animation. it's nowhere near as busted as what i saw of the biscuit hammer anime It's this. The Helck adaptation is low budget, but for the most part the scene composition and directing is competent if nothing flashy. Biscuit Hammer failed at even these basic things, lacked basic weight and momentum, among other issues.
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chumbler posted:I think the Helck manga is good, but you also have to recognize the praise for it as being a product of the excitement of when it was coming out at a rate of like a chapter a day, particularly during a very memorable and important part of the story. It's as much the memory of the experience as the quality of the story itself. Still a good read though, and the general art style is one of my favorites. The art style is simple but with sufficient detail and uniqueness to characters. I finished reading it again a while and the story holds up and was still amazing. This whole convo reminds me of an anituber noticing an unsual trend recently where even when seasons are stacked, discussion for shows is very lukewarm and shows that would normaly get 1k upvotes and hundreds of comments barely break those at times. I think lack of quality control in terms of adaptions for anything that isn't already a behemoth seller(and even then that's not a guarantee) isva huge factor.
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There’s always been lack of quality control on stuff. We got absolute garbage back in the day as well. It’s just that there’s that much more of it. So not only are your chances of things going wonky better, but people don’t chat as much because you can only comment so much on generic isekai #217. Then you actually have keep up with the shows you want to watch, so yeah, there’s not a lot of discussion unless the show is really good and warrants it.
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Yeah Helck translations came out at the rate of like a chapter a day early on which made it a pretty breezy experience. The show has at this point spent 4 weeks on not-exactly-revolutionary genre parody stuff and medium-burn "Helck is a good boy with mysterious past, Vamirio is suspicious" mystery-building but Helck himself is still kind of a cipher which means most of your investment is gonna depend on how much tolerance for the genre parody stuff you have, how much you're willing to care about the mystery for its own sake and how charmed you are by Helck's innate good boy-ness. Aside from that most of the love for Helck is mostly just "charming genre parody that takes a serious turn and has a surprising amount of heart," if you're not into the first couple episodes then I dunno that the show's necessarily gonna do anything to change your mind but I do think the cast quickly grow into characters worth caring about. Also it does this revolutionary thing where the male and female lead are friends and their developing relationship and respect for each other forms the emotional core of the entire story and that's it they're just friends. BlitznBurst fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Aug 2, 2023 |
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