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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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Opiumden34 posted:In the market for a GTI, probably new. I just cannot decide if I'd want the DSG or a manual. I've driven manual all my life, and don't drive much in slow traffic areas. I at least think I have my ideal color decided. for the price of a new GTI you could prolly find a manual mk7 and also a DSG one for the days you feel lazy
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Aug 2, 2023 18:57
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Imperador do Brasil posted:
i also call it the fistyboi when i want to be obnoxious but 
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Aug 2, 2023 18:57
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Since “FIESTA” is taken as a license plate in Michigan, I thought about getting the license plate “EL PARTY” I got DA F0RD instead, but part of me still dreams
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Aug 2, 2023 19:12
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I know the DSG is slightly faster, but I'm not racing my GTI and I've had zero regrets going with the manual in my mk7.5
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Aug 2, 2023 19:19
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Ok Comboomer posted:for the price of a new GTI you could prolly find a manual mk7 and also a DSG one for the days you feel lazy AND it'll have buttons. But having driven my Dad's mk7, it's a hell of a manual box.
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Aug 2, 2023 19:54
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Jean-Paul Shartre posted:AND it'll have buttons. But having driven my Dad's mk7, it's a hell of a manual box. and the 7.5 looks better than the Mk8 although if you were serious about 2-for-1ing it I might go for DSG GTI and look for a FiST instead of a manual GTI, but I might not go with the FiST over one as my only daily if I prioritized creature comforts. If your budget were higher I'd say Mk7.5 DSG GTI + manual ND2 MX5/current-gen BRZ trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Aug 2, 2023 |
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Aug 2, 2023 20:05
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I went from a manual civic si to a DSG GTI and I have no regrets. DSG is a really nice middle ground between fun and convenience for me, and not having to worry about a clutch replacement when my warranty runs out and I start modding the car is nice too. Really the only thing I miss about the Si is it felt more planted in turns than the GTI does, but I'll eventually fix that.
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Aug 2, 2023 21:40
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prom candy posted:I went from a manual civic si to a DSG GTI and I have no regrets. DSG is a really nice middle ground between fun and convenience for me, and not having to worry about a clutch replacement when my warranty runs out and I start modding the car is nice too. Really the only thing I miss about the Si is it felt more planted in turns than the GTI does, but I'll eventually fix that. lol you think a DSG is more durable and cheaper to run than a clutch manual
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Aug 2, 2023 21:44
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Was about to say, I'd be a lot more worried about a DSG out of warranty than a clutch.
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Aug 2, 2023 21:46
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The DSG is not going to fail anytime soon unless you do something terrible, but also it is covered under warranty, a clutch is not covered under warranty. The maintenance on the 7-speed is change fluid at 80k miles.
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Aug 2, 2023 22:00
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If you can’t fart tune a manual GTI then I don’t care. (lowkey still wish I had got a DSG one instead of getting the FiST sometimes)
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Aug 2, 2023 22:11
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There isn’t a day that goes by where I’d rather have a GTI than the FiST. I know the GTI is a nicer and more refined car but that’s not what I want in a hot hatch! I want a nice-enough interior and giggles every time I push the skinny pedal.
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Aug 2, 2023 22:25
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Rusty posted:The DSG is not going to fail anytime soon unless you do something terrible, but also it is covered under warranty, a clutch is not covered under warranty. The maintenance on the 7-speed is change fluid at 80k miles. I dunno about USA but the VW warranty here exclude wear on the clutch packs in a DSG just as it would exclude wear on the clutch in a manual car. You're covered for defects either way, just not wear.
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Aug 2, 2023 22:30
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dissss posted:I dunno about USA but the VW warranty here exclude wear on the clutch packs in a DSG just as it would exclude wear on the clutch in a manual car. You're covered for defects either way, just not wear. Imperador do Brasil posted:There isn’t a day that goes by where I’d rather have a GTI than the FiST.
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Aug 2, 2023 22:53
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Rusty posted:Clutch plates on the DSG are included as they are not considered a wear item. I'd love to see how you'd get on with making a claim on that It's kinda moot anyway as no one is going to be doing their clutch in inside the warranty period anyway unless they're seriously abusing the car/or have added power
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Aug 2, 2023 23:05
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dissss posted:I'd love to see how you'd get on with making a claim on that
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Aug 2, 2023 23:16
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With an engine tune most places suggest also doing a DSG tune, or replacing the clutch in a manual. I don't think I've seen anywhere say the DSG can't handle it (presumably because it's better at shifting)
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Aug 3, 2023 02:02
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devicenull posted:With an engine tune most places suggest also doing a DSG tune, or replacing the clutch in a manual. I don't think I've seen anywhere say the DSG can't handle it (presumably because it's better at shifting) Also FWIW, the reason the clutch plates are not a wear item on the DSG is because it is the ECU slipping the clutch, not you, so any damage done is done by the ECU. The only way they could snag you on something like that is if they found out you were towing something. Rusty fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Aug 3, 2023 |
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Aug 3, 2023 02:33
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Is there any real benefit to the price bump between the golf R and Gti? I dont live anywhere that has snow or consistent rain so i dont think AWD will be needed, i dont know what else i get other than a slightly nicer interior. Also the GTI here where i pice has physical volume and power knobs Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Aug 3, 2023 |
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Aug 3, 2023 05:51
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Al-Saqr posted:Is there any real benefit to the price bump between the golf R and Gti? I dont live anywhere that has snow or consistent rain so i dont think AWD will be needed, i dont know what else i get other than a slightly nicer interior. It's AWD, the power bump, and the feeling you get when you pull up next to a GTI at a light, nothing more. Unless you're a Eurocommie, in which case you can get the R wagon.
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Aug 3, 2023 07:25
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Ok Comboomer posted:lol you think a DSG is more durable and cheaper to run than a clutch manual If I was looking for long-term cheap I wouldn't be driving a german car at all. My point was the stock clutch in the manual apparently can't handle the extra torque from tuning, at least according to some people.
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Aug 3, 2023 14:24
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Hey
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Aug 3, 2023 15:36
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Dr. Lunchables posted:Hey Not sure if it includes the B6-B7, but one of the 2.0T engines was involved in a (successful) class-action lawsuit because it was so unreliable.
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Aug 3, 2023 16:09
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Dr. Lunchables posted:Hey My parents easily sunk $25k of maintence and repairs into a B6. Lovely car, but always broken, and always expensive. You can find some pretty cheap B8s, and they’re a hell of a lot more reliable.
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Aug 3, 2023 16:39
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Imperador do Brasil posted:There isn’t a day that goes by where I’d rather have a GTI than the FiST. Oh I adore it for all the same reasons, I bought mine new while cross-shopping against the GTI. It’s just my only car and to Rusty’s point I also have a bike that does the big dumb adrenaline stuff for me. That might play into my moments of weakness wishing for a little more refinement and not having to row my own in traffic.
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Aug 3, 2023 17:21
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If you look at the amount of DSG clutch surface area compared to a manual it'll be pretty clear why they last a long time and can hold a bunch of power in comparison, it isn't just because the computer is controlling it. They're a multiplate wet clutch in a similar setup to a motorcycle.
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Aug 3, 2023 17:22
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BlackMK4 posted:If you look at the amount of DSG clutch surface area compared to a manual it'll be pretty clear why they last a long time and can hold a bunch of power in comparison, it isn't just because the computer is controlling it.
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Aug 3, 2023 17:28
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BlackMK4 posted:If you look at the amount of DSG clutch surface area compared to a manual it'll be pretty clear why they last a long time and can hold a bunch of power in comparison, it isn't just because the computer is controlling it. VW was wise to never try selling the dry clutch 7 speed in North America - that was the really problematic one.
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Aug 3, 2023 19:06
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DSG tunes are recommended when you really start making power, the manual transmission needs an upgraded clutch before you even think about doing any hp mods.
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Aug 3, 2023 22:00
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Head Bee Guy posted:My parents easily sunk $25k of maintence and repairs into a B6. Lovely car, but always broken, and always expensive. my 2014 S4 needed $500-1000 every 3 months until I sold it to avoid the $2000 it needed now and $4000 it needed soon Great car but a drat money pit
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Aug 3, 2023 23:14
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I exploded the shoulders on my PS4s after 4 track sessions on the FoRS Decided I needed some more camber to help prevent shoulder wear so this is all going on soon Mountune springs for a 1/2 inch drop all around, maintaining stock rake angle, ground control camber plates and my buddy is sending me some real lightly used 2018 version 3 revision front oem dampers.  Also new meats obviously, Kumho V730s.  Excited for next track day, in Sept. Sipher fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Aug 3, 2023 |
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Aug 3, 2023 23:22
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My spouse backed into someone while parallel parking my GTI this morning. No one was hurt thankfully and the other fellow’s car is largely undamaged (got in touch, he said it wasn’t a problem) but I have a fun little dent and paint damage right above my left rear wheel. Naturally this is the panel that’s one large piece and wraps up over the car. Doubly nice is that it’s on a fold so they likely can’t just pop it out. This is going to goddamn suck isn’t it?
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Aug 4, 2023 19:13
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Warbird posted:My spouse backed into someone while parallel parking my GTI this morning. No one was hurt thankfully and the other fellow’s car is largely undamaged (got in touch, he said it wasn’t a problem) but I have a fun little dent and paint damage right above my left rear wheel. Naturally this is the panel that’s one large piece and wraps up over the car. Doubly nice is that it’s on a fold so they likely can’t just pop it out. This is going to goddamn suck isn’t it? Might still be worth going to a PDR shop to see what they can do. Some fuckface in an Expedition slammed their door into the side of my RSX right on the apex of the crease over the rear wheel and the PDR shop I went to mostly fixed it. If I got a light on it at the right angle I could see a little ripple because I knew where to look but it was fine from 10 feet away and most importantly didn't piss me off every time I looked at it when walking back to the car.
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Aug 5, 2023 01:20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_FFJj_s1Rs linus replaced his taycan with a gr corolla
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Aug 7, 2023 12:47
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https://youtu.be/iWNTeLpn8Uw
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Aug 7, 2023 21:00
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There’s a guy that comes to car meets near me that has a K20 swapped Fit. It looks like insane fun, but that engine bay is cramped as hell. He had to notch the radiator support to fit it in.
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Aug 7, 2023 21:10
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Hasport is like two miles from where I live, super cool dudes and easy to talk to. Also really willing to help with whatever hairbrain project you're cooking up involving a Honda motor, they made mounts to put a K20C with CTR transmission into a local NSX track car and are doing the mounts to put a K20C with CTR transmission into my friend's Exige track car.
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Aug 7, 2023 21:17
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My parents don't understand me and I need to vent. (I am forty years old and live on my own.) I want to upgrade my FiST to a tune that will add 40HP and 82ft# torque. First, I am going to throw 16s on it and brace the suspension so it's not too noodly. My family does not understand. They are habitual base model Yaris enthusiasts. The only reason they no longer buy base model Saturns is because Saturn no longer makes cars. "but why?!" they cry. "Because 82 foot pounds of torque." I am so alone.
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Aug 15, 2023 15:46
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Wroughtirony posted:My parents don't understand me and I need to vent. (I am forty years old and live on my own.) tbh I wouldn’t do it. It’s an EcoBoom, and I’ve never felt comfortable putting more go into them Suspension upgrade and thicker tires is all I need
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Aug 15, 2023 16:11
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I think I took about 5k miles of life from my clutch on the way home on a missed shift. It smells so bad in my garage right now.
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Aug 15, 2023 23:03
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