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DreddyMatt posted:Bro you'll have to tell me why places become ghettos, coz it's a sociological thing I've not studied. Ok, so, you realise that's going to involve splitting up the community, right? Taking the kids away from their friends, scattering them so they can't maintain a sense of cohesion? Breaking up extended families, all that poo poo. That really sounds a lot like deliberate cultural erasure to me, that sounds pretty hosed up. Now if you don't do that, you let people settle in one place, keep their existing relationships etc, what's the plan for stopping the surrounding people from treating them like dogshit? Because if you can't sort out prejudices keeping people from employment, having a good school life in the schools you want them to go to, general mistreatment from others, then you're going to create a ghetto, a place where "undesirable" people live and which is shunned by people with money and power, it's what happens very frequently with all kinds of minorities. And it happens because, as I keep saying, the problem is with the hegemonic society. You need to stop society from wronging people first because if you don't then anything else you try is going to be utterly destroyed by those same behaviours from society.
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forkboy84 posted:It's true, Corbyn didn't lose because he essentially triangulated on the messaging to try & appease a PLP that was never going to be appeased by him & were intent from day 0 in wrecking his leadership, or a media that went in lock-step from day 1 to paint him as a bigot & a madman who hate Britain or any of the dozen other reasons I could come up with. He lost because of low effort sarcasm on an internet forum used by a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of 1% of the electorate. Genius. sorry, I missede this, but people who vote read this forum I know all this poo poo about corbyn was bs. u know it too. That does not matter. I don't know how I will vote in the next general. I was happy to vote for labour with corbyn. with starmer idfk. maybe he is just 'clowning' it to get the loving sun vote. idk. maybe not. maybe he jenuinly is this much of a prick. I console mysrelf that I don't live in a marginal. This is prime kent/se votor territory. I would put money on helen grant being my next mp if I was a gambling man. so yea, idk how i will vote, but atleast part of the reason that left-wing labour lost was because of smug loving pricks like him, looking down their nose at ppl.
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Maximum Pepsi posted:If i was the type of c8unt who was wavering between starmers labour, or the tories, your cuntish point scooring might have just tipped the balance (in the wrong way) If you're wavering between those two parties it doesn't make a meaningful difference which way you fall hth
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Maximum Pepsi posted:cunts like you dont help anything or fix anything. respectfully, what are we saying here? would it be better to be wrong but treated nicely, or correct and scolded? the thing about "just explain nicely" is that human beings in general are not rational and don't logic their way into their beliefs - conclusions are formed based on emotions and reasons are backfilled in to support which, uh, suggests the opposite of your point: you're better off yelling at people to make them feel bad/scared/whatever, because politely using facts and statistics just lets you get ignored (c.f. Clegg vs Farage Brexit debate) I appreciate this sucks to experience but this is where it helps to remember we're all idiot monkeys and getting yelled at by internet strangers isn't the worst thing that can happen to you today
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Namtab posted:I would never say g*y or h*m*sexual Well dur of course not, how could you pronounce the asterisks?
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social credit will be with us in the next 10 years or so you can help settle people down now with schemes and money, or you can let them be alone and deal with the hell they’ll be in for when this rubbish gets implemented by the next Tory government. this is the choice. there is no nice end to this story.
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Maximum Pepsi posted:sorry I don't want to be another oval office like 'flaps but Literally just this  NotJustANumber99 posted:I wonder how traveller communities will handle the switch to electric vehicles when ice vehicles are no longer sold. At least they can use starlink roaming for fast, reliable internet whilst on the road. 
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Maximum Pepsi posted:"quoteplease explain "quote if a post on a internet forum is enough to make you vote Tory then you're already a Tory
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I was thinking about electric cars the other day, I don’t even know how my wife is gonna handle it and we own a house with a driveway and everything. The driveway is away from the house and I’m not gonna be that oval office who just runs 40 feet of extension cord out a window and all over a public pathway just to plug the car in. The solution is probably faster charging so the ‘drive to a charging station as though it was a petrol station’ model is still useful but when everyone’s limping around in 3-4 year old cars with clapped out batteries that ain’t gonna work for long.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Why are there suddenly multiple people visiting the thread to fiercely argue that the travelling way of life should be suppressed and travellers forcibly integrated into mainstream society? Tesseraction posted:Look, up there in the sky! It's the Fash Symbol!
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Lt. Danger posted:respectfully, what are we saying here? would it be better to be wrong but treated nicely, or correct and scolded? I know how I learn, I guess I can only speak from my own experience. but someone yelling/scolding me makes me want to do the opposite of whatever. can't work how to quote u seb sorry, but yeah I agree. I honestly belive a labour govrnment will be slightly less poo poo that a tory one. but it is marginal. so. like sorry going back to it but, the best teachers I had at school didn't (neccesarly) scold me. They showed me by example. That is how I learned.
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History Comes Inside! posted:I was thinking about electric cars the other day, I don’t even know how my wife is gonna handle it and we own a house with a driveway and everything. Can you cut a trench and run a conduit?
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I'm gonna come poo poo up the thread and call people cunts and if you call me out on my prejudice then it's your fault that I'm voting for Tories next election
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Crystal Thenis posted:social credit will be with us in the next 10 years or so It’s fine agenda 2030 will be with us first, the WEF won’t let social credit happen
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Re: electric cars, surely the solution for on the go charging would be a standard size, shape, and connectors for batteries, and when you go to a station you swap out your batteries.
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Maximum Pepsi posted:like sorry going back to it but, the best teachers I had at school didn't (neccesarly) scold me. They showed me by example. That is how I learned. Your teachers should be tried in The Hague
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smellmycheese posted:So, anyway, what’s the threads thoughts on London? very positive, glowing reviews, many satisfied people
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smellmycheese posted:So, anyway, what’s the threads thoughts on London? Or apropos your username - what kind of cheese is the best? Can't beat a really mature cheddar with some pickled onions in my opinion (nice and crumbly none of that yank muck) but once in a while I have to treat myself to some Roquefort with Branstons.
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Angrymog posted:Re: electric cars, surely the solution for on the go charging would be a standard size, shape, and connectors for batteries, and when you go to a station you swap out your batteries. Brexit Means Brexit.
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More seriously there are electric semi-trucks that do this as I recall. The YOSPOS thread was laughing at Musk's pathetic semi and its failure to perform. Also his electronic haulage vehicle's design.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Can you cut a trench and run a conduit? Physically probably yeah but I have no idea how that would work out legally if I wanted to go ahead and do it since I would need to go literally via the pavement to get to where the driveway is, because it’s not just ‘away from the house’ it’s ‘away from the house and round the corner and in the middle of a row of driveways that all belong to the terrace that my house is in’. Angrymog posted:Re: electric cars, surely the solution for on the go charging would be a standard size, shape, and connectors for batteries, and when you go to a station you swap out your batteries. You may be underestimating how big and heavy the battery setup for an electric car is, plus this would also lead to some people getting a poo poo battery for their swap unless there was also some formalised program of replacing the crap ones that get turned in at the station.
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Maximum Pepsi posted:I know how I learn, I guess I can only speak from my own experience. but someone yelling/scolding me makes me want to do the opposite of whatever. Children need to be taught like that, because they're children. Adults certainly benefit from being taught like that, but I would suggest that if people should have one skill that marks the transition from childhood to adulthood, it should be the understanding that not everybody is going to be willing to hold your hand through everything, and that it is incumbent upon the learner to approach situations with a desire to understand, to meet people half way.
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DreddyMatt posted:That's quite a stretch. um pretty sure the NHS don't refuse travellers treatment
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Fingerless Gloves posted:I'm gonna come poo poo up the thread and call people cunts and if you call me out on my prejudice then it's your fault that I'm voting for Tories next election For some reason I feel like empty-quoting this. If you vote for the loving tories u deserve what u get tho.
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Maximum Pepsi posted:For some reason I feel like empty-quoting this. If you vote for the loving tories u deserve what u get tho. It’s not an empyquote if you write a reply
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Deketh posted:I'm surprised that the what are your blokes thoughts guy hasn't popped in as well He's threadbanned, mercifully.
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Looks like Wilko's might collapse! Where will I get my cheap DIY stuff from in future??
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OwlFancier posted:He's threadbanned, mercifully. Hmmm. I think I've found a solution to our traveller posters problem. So much for the toblerone left.
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Maximum Pepsi posted:poo poo like this is (partly) why corbyn lost  Corbyn lost because he did the bad kind of racism (antisemitism) instead of good kind of racism (anti-ziganism).
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Pistol_Pete posted:Looks like Wilko's might collapse! Where will I get my cheap DIY stuff from in future?? A thousand bingo halls cry out as the only source of those weird little pens they use vanishes forever
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Maximum Pepsi posted:I know how I learn, I guess I can only speak from my own experience. but someone yelling/scolding me makes me want to do the opposite of whatever. Your teachers were paid to educate you, I'm not. 
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OwlFancier posted:and that it is incumbent upon the learner to approach situations with a desire to understand, to meet people half way. yeah sorry i already posted so im posting again but.... i guess, maybe, people hold onto the way they learned the first time. The way they were taught. It is not incumbent on a GRT person to teach me to to be predudice (tho that might help) It is on me to learn my own predudices and how I will 'deal' with em in future. But I apprecciated you breaking things down for me. I learned something today. I learned that even though I thought I had no predudice/racial bias, I do. and I know it is on me to deal with that. The actual important thing is that I learned. pointless pointscoring might win some arguments/upvote, but it does not win people over to your pov.
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Every day my teachers used to burst through the door and kick the poo poo out of me until I could integrate by parts.
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