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Ryuujin: Sep 26, 2007; Dragon God

Yeah Conrasu is my go to for Wood+Water Kineticist Healer idea. Though that 17th level feat that makes it so you don't become immune to your Sunlight Healing after using it also maxes the healing so 136 instead of 17d8. My plan for that build would be Wood and Water dual gate, get as many healing options as possible, grab Medic dedication if in a Free Archetype game, and build for that Sunlight Healing ability, I just wish it was usable on allies once every ten minutes instead of once per day.

My other Kineticist idea is mono Fire trying to be all up close and personal with the Fire Aura Junction and Thermal Nimbus, but I just don't know what Ancestry to go for that.

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# ? Jun 4, 2024 00:57

Mister Olympus: Oct 31, 2011; Buzzard, Who Steals From Dead Bodies

goblin for burn it, probably, or hobgoblin into runtsage for burn it

# ? Aug 3, 2023 05:57

Ryuujin: Sep 26, 2007; Dragon God

I thought about Goblin Burn It but unless they change the wording with the Remaster it doesn't actually work on Impulses.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 05:58

Arivia: Mar 17, 2011

appropriatemetaphor posted:

I want to play a cop kineticist

bomb squad

# ? Aug 3, 2023 06:46

Chevy Slyme: May 2, 2004; We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

1) Kineticist is up in Pathbuilder, but not Nethys yet. It''s also live in the latest Foundry update, but...

2) Do not update Foundry if you aren't ready for new Remaster spell names/rules changes in your game.

The newest Foundry update has begun the process of integrating remaster name changes/spell revisions/errata etc etc. So, Produce Flame is now Ignition, Flat Footed is now Off Guard, a bunch of other adjustments large and small all over the place. All future Foundry updates are going to be remastered based going forward, so if you Fear Change (or just don't want to deal with it for a campaign in progress), don't update.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 15:42

Arrrthritis: May 31, 2007; I don't care if you're a star, the moon, or the whole damn sky, you need to come back down to earth and remember where you came from

Blockhouse posted:

boy how about that Kineticist huh what a real cool class can't wait to play one

I was thinking I'd want to be a dwarf fire + metal kineticist, really lean into being a living forge of a person.

Their gencon keynote said that they're going to announce two new classes in september, so it should be pretty exciting to see what they have slated for the future.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 15:46

The Slack Lagoon: Jun 17, 2008

Arrrthritis posted:

Their gencon keynote said that they're going to announce two new classes in september, so it should be pretty exciting to see what they have slated for the future.

Please be shifter

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Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

Starfinder 2E :vince:

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Andrast: Apr 21, 2010

The Slack Lagoon posted:

Please be shifter

Both are classes that have never been in pathfinder before.

They also said that one of the core gods will die.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 15:53

Andrast: Apr 21, 2010

Starfinder 2 will apparently be 100% compatible with PF2

which is weird

# ? Aug 3, 2023 15:58

Chevy Slyme: May 2, 2004; We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

Playtest page is up for Starfinder

https://paizo.com/starfinderplaytest

# ? Aug 3, 2023 16:06

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

Chevy Slyme posted:

Playtest page is up for Starfinder

https://paizo.com/starfinderplaytest

I love the glitch gremlin and will protect them with my life

# ? Aug 3, 2023 16:23

sugar free jazz: Mar 5, 2008

please don't be shifter i still hold a grudge against the class for being so bad and take the oozemorph as a personal insult

# ? Aug 3, 2023 16:26

Silver2195: Apr 4, 2012

Arrrthritis posted:

I was thinking I'd want to be a dwarf fire + metal kineticist, really lean into being a living forge of a person.

Their gencon keynote said that they're going to announce two new classes in september, so it should be pretty exciting to see what they have slated for the future.

Ooh. What new classes does everyone want to see? My ideas:

The Shifter is the big one. PF1 implemented it badly, but the idea of versatile shapeshifting as your primary thing is very cool. In general I like the idea of classes with specific but versatile supernatural powers, instead of Vancian casting.
Though for fans of Vancian casting, there are obvious "holes": there's no Wis-based arcane or occult casters! PF1 had a Wis-based occult caster (the Spiritualist), and I guess a Wis-based arcane caster could be called a Mystic or something like that?
As Mark Seifter has pointed out, the removal of spell schools adds the potential for a Necromancer as its own class. Though there are already multiple necromancy-related archetypes, and the main necromancy-related thing people want that isn't currently supported (having a bunch of minions) is hard to do in a logistically manageable way within the system, so maybe not.
Some kind of Soulknife-like class - like the Blade Ally option for Champions, combined with either bounded occult casting or the Rogue/Investigator skill progression.

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Megaman's Jockstrap: Jul 16, 2000; What a horrible thread to have a post.

I'm pulling for Battlemind and Warlord (obviously with different names, but in spirit), hopefully.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 16:35

Red Metal: Oct 23, 2012; Let me tell you about Homestuck; Fun Shoe

Someone did a full writeup of the keynote here.
Of note, about the two new classes

quote:

Neither class has ever appeared in the world of Golarion before, the name of the book is still a spoiler.

So it's definitely not shifter.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 16:38

Ravus Ursus: Mar 30, 2017

Man the PF2 discord is popping off and the SF discord has got a hot take debate going on.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 16:51

Zurai: Feb 13, 2012; Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Didn't they just say a few months ago that there wouldn't be a PF2-style SF2?

Not that I object. SF was a weird middle ground between PF1 and PF2 and it suffered for it. I can't imagine a change to PF2 mechanics being anything but a significant net positive.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 16:58

rare Magic card l00k: Jan 3, 2011

Ravus Ursus posted:

Man the PF2 discord is popping off and the SF discord has got a hot take debate going on.

Well that's not surprising.

Pathfinder 2e is getting a fresh coat of paint, and Starfinder is basically not going to exist anymore, because Starfinder fully compatible with Pathfinder 2e is Starfinder as it is not existing anymore.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 16:58

Ravus Ursus: Mar 30, 2017

Zurai posted:

Didn't they just say a few months ago that there wouldn't be a PF2-style SF2?

Not that I object. SF was a weird middle ground between PF1 and PF2 and it suffered for it. I can't imagine a change to PF2 mechanics being anything but a significant net positive.

The OGL nonsense probably cause them to have to make some changes.

rare Magic card l00k posted:

Well that's not surprising.

Pathfinder 2e is getting a fresh coat of paint, and Starfinder is basically not going to exist anymore, because Starfinder fully compatible with Pathfinder 2e is Starfinder as it is not existing anymore.

They're not going to come to your house and take your SF1 books away my friend.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 17:00

Lurks With Wolves: Jan 14, 2013; At least I don't dance with them, right?

Red Metal posted:

Someone did a full writeup of the keynote here.
Of note, about the two new classes

So it's definitely not shifter.

Also worth noting that the classes are going to be part of the linewide push for a divine war that's going to kill one of Golarion's gods, so expect them to involve warfare or weird divine stuff. Maybe even a dedicated necromancy class, if they can make that work.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 17:13

Chevy Slyme: May 2, 2004; We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

Zurai posted:

Didn't they just say a few months ago that there wouldn't be a PF2-style SF2?

Not that I object. SF was a weird middle ground between PF1 and PF2 and it suffered for it. I can't imagine a change to PF2 mechanics being anything but a significant net positive.

They said �not now,� not �not ever.�

# ? Aug 3, 2023 17:15

Chevy Slyme: May 2, 2004; We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

Silver2195 posted:

Ooh. What new classes does everyone want to see? My ideas:

The Shifter is the big one. PF1 implemented it badly, but the idea of versatile shapeshifting as your primary thing is very cool. In general I like the idea of classes with specific but versatile supernatural powers, instead of Vancian casting.

Though for fans of Vancian casting, there are obvious "holes": there's no Wis-based arcane or occult casters! PF1 had a Wis-based occult caster (the Spiritualist), and I guess a Wis-based arcane caster could be called a Mystic or something like that?

As Mark Seifter has pointed out, the removal of spell schools adds the potential for a Necromancer as its own class. Though there are already multiple necromancy-related archetypes, and the main necromancy-related thing people want that isn't currently supported (having a bunch of minions) is hard to do in a logistically manageable way within the system, so maybe not.

Some kind of Soulknife-like class - like the Blade Ally option for Champions, combined with either bounded occult casting or the Rogue/Investigator skill progression.

My money is on a Wis based martial and a Wis based bounded caster.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 17:17

Mister Olympus: Oct 31, 2011; Buzzard, Who Steals From Dead Bodies

it's hard to think of broad fantasy archetypes that aren't already reasonably doable. a class representing someone like frodo, an otherwise unremarkable non-adventurer who happens to be the only person capable of holding an artifact of unimaginable power, maybe

a dedicated necromancer would also be nice if that isn't one of the wizard subclasses

Mister Olympus fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Aug 3, 2023

# ? Aug 3, 2023 17:28

Lamuella: Jun 26, 2003; It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.

Kyrosiris posted:

I love the glitch gremlin and will protect them with my life

look at this little fucker

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# ? Aug 3, 2023 17:34

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Zurai posted:

Didn't they just say a few months ago that there wouldn't be a PF2-style SF2?

Not that I object. SF was a weird middle ground between PF1 and PF2 and it suffered for it. I can't imagine a change to PF2 mechanics being anything but a significant net positive.

My guess is they saw that people's reaction to that was being unhappy/sad, and decided to just do the thing.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 17:46

Syrinxx: Mar 28, 2002; Death is whimsical today

My and all my players are already hyped as gently caress for SF2e this morning. There a couple of grogs complaining a lot in the SF discord but putting that awesome setting into a better mechanical system is going to own

# ? Aug 3, 2023 17:58

sugar free jazz: Mar 5, 2008

Well they�ve already had necromancers.

There hasn�t been a ritual focused class? That�d be neat.

I kinda think rituals is what they should have done with the wizard but I hope they expand them in at least some way

# ? Aug 3, 2023 18:12

Jen X: Sep 29, 2014; To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

sugar free jazz posted:

Well they�ve already had necromancers.

There hasn�t been a ritual focused class? That�d be neat.

I kinda think rituals is what they should have done with the wizard but I hope they expand them in at least some way

maybe they could make rituals practically usable without DMs drastically lowering DCs, too

or stop them from being the second most punishing system in the game after chase rules

# ? Aug 3, 2023 18:38

3 Action Economist: May 22, 2002; Educate. Agitate. Liberate.

Ravus Ursus posted:

Man the PF2 discord is popping off and the SF discord has got a hot take debate going on.

You're not kidding. Some truly deranged takes.

rare Magic card l00k posted:

Well that's not surprising.

Pathfinder 2e is getting a fresh coat of paint, and Starfinder is basically not going to exist anymore, because Starfinder fully compatible with Pathfinder 2e is Starfinder as it is not existing anymore.

Oh.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 18:46

Ravus Ursus: Mar 30, 2017

Syrinxx posted:

My and all my players are already hyped as gently caress for SF2e this morning. There a couple of grogs complaining a lot in the SF discord but putting that awesome setting into a better mechanical system is going to own

If I see "is not SFS compatible" on more time I'm gonna just politely ignore the grog.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 18:47

Syrinxx: Mar 28, 2002; Death is whimsical today

Kineticist is already on Pathbuilder, quick work by that developer.

Rage of Elements is also now legal/sanctioned for PFS play.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 18:58

sugar free jazz: Mar 5, 2008

-4 for secondary caster failure and +2 for crit success, nevermind crit failure, on standard dc by level for rituals is incredibly funny

# ? Aug 3, 2023 19:01

Zeg: Mar 31, 2013; Am not good at video games.

Magus https://pathbuilder2e.com/launch.html?build=358422
Investigator https://pathbuilder2e.com/launch.html?build=366966

Magus was a lot of fun to read about and only took me 2 or 3 redrafts to be satisfied with the direction I'm building the character. My Investigator took many, many more drafts. I'm pretty proud of how they both turned out.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 19:14

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

Syrinxx posted:

Kineticist is already on Pathbuilder, quick work by that developer.

Wood has an impulse that heals with herbs and spices.

I am this close to making Colonel Sanders, Fire/Wood Kineticist.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 19:17

Blockhouse: Sep 7, 2014; You Win!

I can't imagine people being surprised by Starfinder 2e. What were they going to do, try and de-OGL the game that uses way more OGL parts than PF2e but also keep it completely separate from their new de-OGL'd system?

# ? Aug 3, 2023 21:20

Megaman's Jockstrap: Jul 16, 2000; What a horrible thread to have a post.

Someone already figured out that you can Fresh Produce an eggplant into any BBEM's hands (or directly in front of them, if they don't want it) while they're giving a big speech, so that's a good time.

On further analysis I'm pretty sure one of the 2 new classes will be Starfinder-related.

# ? Aug 3, 2023 21:25

Dick Burglar: Mar 6, 2006

One of the new classes is just a straight up Xenomorph

...that'd rule, actually

# ? Aug 3, 2023 21:31

MadScientistWorking: Jun 23, 2010; "I was going through a time period where I was looking up weird stories involving necrophilia..."

Lurks With Wolves posted:

Also worth noting that the classes are going to be part of the linewide push for a divine war that's going to kill one of Golarion's gods, so expect them to involve warfare or weird divine stuff. Maybe even a dedicated necromancy class, if they can make that work.

People were speculating about this aspect for months. Apparently, in one of the more recent Pathfinder Society Scenarios an NPC gave up her life to save Belkezen from the same bomb from Tyrant's Grasp. At the very end it flat out says she has the ability to challenge and kill one of their gods to usurp them. It very well seems to be setting up a good Orc god

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AnEdgelord: Dec 12, 2016

Forget Shifter, I want Skald back

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