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BrianWilly posted:I'm probably the only person left on the entire forums who likes Gal Gadot but keeping old DCEU actors around for your new DCEU is a crazy laughable mistake. Like. It probably won't end up happening, but also, considering DC, it's entirely possible it ends up happening. I'm actually curious about what you felt worked for you with Gal Gadot Wonder Woman. I think she looks really similar to a version of Diana, and that's cool, but her acting always felt very wooden and low effort. I guess her action physicality is okay? Idk, she's no Charlize Theron.
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Recast Wonder Woman with Katy M. O'Brian IMO
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Aug 3, 2023 02:12
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Half assing the reboot and just making everything more confusing is DC af
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Hulk Smash! posted:Recast Wonder Woman with Katy M. O'Brian IMO
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Aug 3, 2023 02:23
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SlimGoodbody posted:I'm actually curious about what you felt worked for you with Gal Gadot Wonder Woman. I think she looks really similar to a version of Diana, and that's cool, but her acting always felt very wooden and low effort. I guess her action physicality is okay? Idk, she's no Charlize Theron. v  v(Again, not saying that I wouldn't be 100% okay with having a new Diana and wouldn't find it the absolute preferable idea right now) BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Aug 3, 2023 |
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Aug 3, 2023 02:54
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All I know is her character did something morally reprehensible in the second movie and I thus have no desire to see this version of the character ever again.
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Aug 3, 2023 02:56
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Every single DC movie forever and probably Secret Wars will feature a Gal Gadot cameo blaring Ṯ̵̩̀͐͌h̴̹͎̝̾e̸͈̬͓͖̼͒̉̆̀͝ ̴̠͍̹́̇̔̎Ṫ̷͚̜̼͈̉̀̂͛h̷̼͒̋͋e̵̜͍͆͑͘m̴̛̰̱̟̳̖̊̎̔̄ẻ̸͇͉̥̒̑̊
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Aug 3, 2023 03:00
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BrianWilly posted:Every single DC movie forever and probably Secret Wars will feature a Gal Gadot cameo blaring Ṯ̵̩̀͐͌h̴̹͎̝̾e̸͈̬͓͖̼͒̉̆̀͝ ̴̠͍̹́̇̔̎Ṫ̷͚̜̼͈̉̀̂͛h̷̼͒̋͋e̵̜͍͆͑͘m̴̛̰̱̟̳̖̊̎̔̄ẻ̸͇͉̥̒̑̊ Just have to hope Spider-Man 2099 appears in the same scene to drown it out.
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Aug 3, 2023 03:04
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That theme is such a millstone around the character's neck
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Aug 3, 2023 03:17
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It's so funny that her cameos in Shazam 2 and The Flash were functionally identical, with the same loving musical sting, because it means absolutely everyone through the webs of production -- directors, writers, producers, composers, editors, on and on -- thought this would be a good idea instead of being incredibly hackneyed, or else they weren't even paying enough attention to notice it, or else they did and just didn't care.
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BrianWilly posted:It's so funny that her cameos in Shazam 2 and The Flash were functionally identical, with the same loving musical sting, because it means absolutely everyone through the webs of production -- directors, writers, producers, composers, editors, on and on -- thought this would be a good idea instead of being incredibly hackneyed, or else they weren't even paying enough attention to notice it, or else they did and just didn't care. And the audiences generally loved it both times, so
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Aug 3, 2023 03:43
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What audiences?
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Arist posted:That theme is such a millstone around the character's neck My problem with it is that it kind of sucks as her character theme. It debuts during a sequence where Doomsday is smashing the poo poo out of stuff and the discordant theme really fits *that specific scene* and is arguably as much a Doomsday Fighting Theme as anything else. It didn't even occur to me when watching BvS that it was supposed to be her theme as opposed to "the badass theme that starts when Wonder Woman joins the fray." It just doesn't really communicate anything about the character or feel like it really fits who she is outside of that one, specific, exact scene. maybealabia posted:And the audiences generally loved it both times, so I think you need to pull out something more than "but the audiences loved it" for two of the lowest performing superhero movies of all time.
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ImpAtom posted:My problem with it is that it kind of sucks as her character theme. It debuts during a sequence where Doomsday is smashing the poo poo out of stuff and the discordant theme really fits *that specific scene* and is arguably as much a Doomsday Fighting Theme as anything else. It didn't even occur to me when watching BvS that it was supposed to be her theme as opposed to "the badass theme that starts when Wonder Woman joins the fray." It's a good riff that sounds incredibly out-of-place in any other context, and they don't even try to make it evolve musically to fit the character's arc in the other movies. All they can ever do is just play that riff again, and it gets old real fast.
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Aug 3, 2023 04:54
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Arist posted:It's a good riff that sounds incredibly out-of-place in any other context, and they don't even try to make it evolve musically to fit the character's arc in the other movies. All they can ever do is just play that riff again, and it gets old real fast. I mean that kind of sums up DC movies in general to be fair. They have an idea and they have no idea how to evolve it so they just repeat it in less coherent ways. The Flash is just sort of the climax of that where they're just recycling the exact same poo poo not only from the current DC universe but older DC universes but in more random and boring ways.
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Aug 3, 2023 05:09
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maybealabia posted:And the audiences generally loved it both times, so Aphrodite posted:What audiences? ImpAtom posted:I think you need to pull out something more than "but the audiences loved it" for two of the lowest performing superhero movies of all time. Look, the almost three people who saw Shazam 2 and The Flash were both hootin' and hollerin' when Wonder Woman showed up.
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Hulk Smash! posted:Recast Wonder Woman with Katy M. O'Brian IMO Queen Abs stole every scene in Quantumania, so I can only agree that this is an excellent idea. She's buff, she can act, she's buff, she's totally down to make Wonder Woman super gay, she's buff...
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Aug 3, 2023 13:49
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I'm not defending the cameo/sting More saying the studio would learn exactly the wrong lesson from it getting a much bigger reaction than the actual hero of the movie Luckily I don't think Gunn is that sort of idiot
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SlimGoodbody posted:I'm actually curious about what you felt worked for you with Gal Gadot Wonder Woman. I think she looks really similar to a version of Diana, and that's cool, but her acting always felt very wooden and low effort. I guess her action physicality is okay? Idk, she's no Charlize Theron. I'm not sure if this is true or not but I remember something about how Gafot couldn't change her accent for Wonder Woman so the cast around her instead decided to just adopt her Israeli accent instead. That's pretty funny if true.
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Parkingtigers posted:Queen Abs stole every scene in Quantumania, so I can only agree that this is an excellent idea. She's buff, she can act, she's buff, she's totally down to make Wonder Woman super gay, she's buff... She's a bit shorter than our current WW, but movie magic can fix that. I'm on board.
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Aug 3, 2023 16:32
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Literally anyone would be an upgrade over Gal, who cares if she’s shorter
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Literally anyone would be an upgrade over Gal, who cares if she’s shorter I hear Lizzo is available
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Literally anyone would be an upgrade over Gal, who cares if she’s shorter I can just picture the thumbnails from all those guys on YouTube if they replaced Gadot with O'Brian. They'd be so mad, one of them would probably die.
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Joe Fisto posted:I can just picture the thumbnails from all those guys on YouTube if they replaced Gadot with O'Brian. They'd be so mad, one of them would probably die. I thought those guys hated Gal Gadot
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Joe Fisto posted:I can just picture the thumbnails from all those guys on YouTube if they replaced Gadot with O'Brian. They'd be so mad, one of them would probably die. The same people who were saying Gina Carano should have been Captain Marvel or whatever would lose their minds, yeah
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Aug 3, 2023 17:09
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Nodosaur posted:I thought those guys hated Gal Gadot They are inconsistent in their beliefs.
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Hulk Smash! posted:Recast Wonder Woman with Katy M. O'Brian IMO gently caress. Yes. 
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She can also act circles around Gadot
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FlamingLiberal posted:She can also act circles around Gadot Sure. But so can a wet paper bag. Katy's great though, fully agree.
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Let’s discuss something positive. How did everyone like Mutant Mayhem? Turtles is comic related and all.
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Nodosaur posted:Let’s discuss something positive. How did everyone like Mutant Mayhem? Turtles is comic related and all. It was pretty good. I feel like every part of it was verging on great but just pretty good. Still well worth seeing if you like them turtle boys!
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Nodosaur posted:Let’s discuss something positive. How did everyone like Mutant Mayhem? Turtles is comic related and all. I saw it last night and I'll just repeat what I wrote in another thread: It's good! Has a great look. There's a lot of explicit pop culture references though, integrated heavily into the story and even kind of the character arcs (Mark Ruffalo apparently improvising his lines in the diner scene in Endgame is not just mentioned, but called back to as a character beat, and the big plan to stop the villain in the climax is inspired in-universe by a reference to Attack on Titan), so if you're bothered by characters talking about other media you might have a bad time. To me, though, it just seems true to being a teenager, that experience of interpreting the world through the media you consume. It felt very authentic in a lot of ways, but especially in that one.
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Arist posted:I saw it last night and I'll just repeat what I wrote in another thread: It's good! Has a great look. There's a lot of explicit pop culture references though, integrated heavily into the story and even kind of the character arcs (Mark Ruffalo apparently improvising his lines in the diner scene in Endgame is not just mentioned, but called back to as a character beat, and the big plan to stop the villain in the climax is inspired in-universe by a reference to Attack on Titan), so if you're bothered by characters talking about other media you might have a bad time. To me, though, it just seems true to being a teenager, that experience of interpreting the world through the media you consume. It felt very authentic in a lot of ways, but especially in that one. Yeah and besides, the 80s Turtle movie is full of pop culture references too
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I feel like the turtles themselves had a good look, and April and probably Rudd but most of the look was trying just a little too hard to be weird and different. Certainly better than safe, samey garbage, but just missing the mark a bit for me. Probably hurt by coming out after The Last Wish and Spiderverse which both did similar things better
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I actually liked this more than Spider-verse. I heard a lot of bad things about Lord and Miller’s management style that soured me on the movie, and nothing in Turtles pissed me off/fundamentally misunderstood a character like ATSV’s take on Ben Reilly.
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Personally, I loved the way the humans looked. Animated movies play their character designs so safe in general that it was nice to see weird, lumpy, misshapen faces everywhere instead of completely forgettable, generically attractive extras copypasted into the background.
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Arist posted:I saw it last night and I'll just repeat what I wrote in another thread: It's good! Has a great look. There's a lot of explicit pop culture references though, integrated heavily into the story and even kind of the character arcs (Mark Ruffalo apparently improvising his lines in the diner scene in Endgame is not just mentioned, but called back to as a character beat, and the big plan to stop the villain in the climax is inspired in-universe by a reference to Attack on Titan), so if you're bothered by characters talking about other media you might have a bad time. To me, though, it just seems true to being a teenager, that experience of interpreting the world through the media you consume. It felt very authentic in a lot of ways, but especially in that one. The Turtles themselves are a reference coughrip-offcough when it comes to Daredevil so it's kinda baked in. Nodosaur posted:I actually liked this more than Spider-verse. I heard a lot of bad things about Lord and Miller’s management style that soured me on the movie, and nothing in Turtles pissed me off/fundamentally misunderstood a character like ATSV’s take on Ben Reilly. I know a lot of people didn't like Ben in ATSV but I loved it. That wasn't his character per se but having him represent the excess and angst and style of the 90s was great.
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Lobok posted:The Turtles themselves are a reference coughrip-offcough when it comes to Daredevil so it's kinda baked in. I hated it. The art book comments also showed it wasn’t done with any clear understanding of who the character was, also. It’s such a weird low point for this movie.
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