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RandomBlue posted:half a million AND ONE! I legit wonder how much of it is the legacy of the BG series, how much of it is people wanting any good D&D game, how much of it is Larian's own cred.
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Mordja posted:I legit wonder how much of it is the legacy of the BG series, how much of it is people wanting any good D&D game, how much of it is Larian's own cred. it reminds me a lot of when fallout 3 came out and I was so excited just to have more fallout that i didn't (or refused to) notice until years later that the game simply wasn't that good. and who knows, maybe bg3 is amazing, but it seems like a lot of people really want it to be amazing
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:it reminds me a lot of when fallout 3 came out and I was so excited just to have more fallout that i didn't (or refused to) notice until years later that the game simply wasn't that good. and who knows, maybe bg3 is amazing, but it seems like a lot of people really want it to be amazing I want all the games I play to be amazing.
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At least from what has been playable for the last few years, it really has very little to do with previous games. I’d bet good money that changes later on but it’s a Larian game with better writing than OS and a less messy but still fun combat system. Unless they massively hosed up somewhere it’s probably a good game. Orv fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Aug 4, 2023 |
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I think people also just want a high budget (? Is BG3 AAA budget? AA budget at least) fantasy WRPG since Dragon Age is dead, Bethesda is just releasing ports of Skyrim, and Obsidian and CD Projekt Red are on a bad sci-fi kick.
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mycot posted:I think people also just want a high budget (? Is BG3 AAA budget? AA budget at least) fantasy WRPG since Dragon Age is dead, Bethesda is just releasing ports of Skyrim, and Obsidian and CD Projekt Red are on a bad sci-fi kick. BG3 is indisputably a AAA game, someone did the calculations in the BG3 thread and it has to be the biggest selling CRPG of all time to make back its budget.
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Yeah Larian employs 400+ people now - it’s definitely a AAA budget. Fortunately it’s already sold well just in EA and looks like it will continue to do so well into the future.
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Hwurmp posted:bear fuckers Incorporated!
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Substandard posted:What's the firefox setting to turn this off? ----- Regarding Baldur's Gate 3: I'm sure it's a great game, but holy gently caress do publishers have some sort of allergy to showing the actual loving game or something? Two whole videos which are nothing but cutscenes, and the first TEN screenshots are more of the same. The UI makes an appearance after much scrolling on the Steam page - like are you ashamed of it, what?
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I'll probably get BG3 the very first time it dips below 30 quid. I can't justify fifty on a game I know in my heart I'll probably not get really into. That's a bit much for what will probably just be a character creator sandbox for me.
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Throne of Bhaal was enough of a sequel to BG2  Not that I haven't already bought BG3 and waiting to get off loving work to play it
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Hwurmp posted:bear fuckers Always has been.
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mycot posted:I think people also just want a high budget (? Is BG3 AAA budget? AA budget at least) fantasy WRPG since Dragon Age is dead, BG3 is more Dragon Age than any other game, like you do some fights, get a cutscene and blood is all over your face, your main character is mute, all the party members are assholes (but you need them!!!) etc also it is hard as balls
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I never understood why the Mass Effect/DA-like died. I mean I think it was subsumed by the open world behemoth (hence games like AC Odyssey and Horizon ZD, that clearly owe a lot to Bioware), but you'd think they could co-exist.
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Rinkles posted:I never understood why the Mass Effect/DA-like died. I mean I think it was subsumed by the open world behemoth (hence games like AC Odyssey and Horizon ZD, that clearly owe a lot to Bioware), but you'd think they could co-exist. Probably I’m forgetting something but every one I can recall was middlin’ to dogshit? Your Spiders games, things like that, with the conversation wheel and the vague, ultimately pointless nods towards your choices mattering. Not a one of ‘em was anything but a quaint attempt at the formula that never quite did it. Not half mentioning that the majority of BioWare’s work wasn’t good either.
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Orv posted:Probably I’m forgetting something but every one I can recall was middlin’ to dogshit? Your Spiders games, things like that, with the conversation wheel and the vague, ultimately pointless nods towards your choices mattering. Not a one of ‘em was anything but a quaint attempt at the formula that never quite did it. Alpha Protocol
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Rinkles posted:Alpha Protocol Alpha Protocol is the one and only game that actually delivers on the choices matter schtick, the end slides stuff of some CRPGs doesn’t really count in the same way, so I don’t even really consider it a BioWare-like. Fair though.
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Rinkles posted:I never understood why the Mass Effect/DA-like died. I mean I think it was subsumed by the open world behemoth (hence games like AC Odyssey and Horizon ZD, that clearly owe a lot to Bioware), but you'd think they could co-exist. The two major studios doing them are jank or collapsing (Spiders and Bioware respectively). A few others dabbled and realized "it is a better use of our time and resources to go a little more stock CRPG".
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I'm having a blast in BG3 so far. Combat, the dialogue/characters, the choices, it's all fun. I can tell just from character creation I'm going to play this a million different ways for years with different concepts.
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Orv posted:Alpha Protocol is the one and only game that actually delivers on the choices matter schtick, the end slides stuff of some CRPGs doesn’t really count in the same way, so I don’t even really consider it a BioWare-like. Fair though. The whole Bond-Bourne-Bauer approach to dialogue was a great idea and made replays that much more fun.
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Quill posted:The whole Bond-Bourne-Bauer approach to dialogue was a great idea and made replays that much more fun. Yeah it’s a fantastic game. It’s also like five hours a play through for a reason and while I think the fakery of the choices matter thing is probably the least of why most BioWare games were really bad, it’s super cool that AP actually managed to play it out.
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baldur's gate 3 is extremely good also larian isn't a publicly traded company so they don't have a greedy publisher breathing down their neck chasing infinite profit by milking consumers for every penny  "but what about the deluxe edition dlc?" they gave that to everyone who bought the game during early access for free
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mycot posted:I think people also just want a high budget (? Is BG3 AAA budget? AA budget at least) fantasy WRPG since Dragon Age is dead, Bethesda is just releasing ports of Skyrim, and Obsidian and CD Projekt Red are on a bad sci-fi kick. That's not knocking simple games either; nothing wrong with a game with a narrow focus. I'm just speaking in practical terms. Bad Seafood fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Aug 4, 2023 |
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Obsidian is developing a lush first person fantasy rpg right at this moment called Avowed
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fez_machine posted:Obsidian is developing a lush first person fantasy rpg right at this moment called Avowed That looks as bad combat wise as Skyrim, I’d rather another traditional PoE.
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Outer Worlds with swords.
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fez_machine posted:Obsidian is developing a lush first person fantasy rpg right at this moment called Avowed I'm happy for Bethesda to have any competition, but after TOW it's hard to be particularly excited for Avowed
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Eh to me almost all of TOW’s problems stemmed from 1) the premise of the world, which isn’t an issue with Eora or 2) its obviously limited budget and cut content, which shouldn’t be as much of a problem here. And even then TOW was just a disappointing 7/10 that played it too safe from a studio that usually overreaches in more interesting ways.
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I'll probably get BG3 but man did I bounce off of Divinity Original Sin hard. The combat was so janky and unintuitive to me, which made it super hard to get through. The writing and dialogue was making me cringe. It reminded me of the worst nerds in the gaming store who were very into the whole "being a nerd" thing and played Munchkin. So "better writing and combat DOS" appeals to me.
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Outer Worlds is... Competent. The writing and quest design was much better than Bethesda's, but you can tell it was made on a limited budget and schedule. There's not a lot of depth to it. I'm cautiously optimistic about Avowed. I'm hoping that the Microsoft money plus working from their own established setting means that they can really pour themselves into fleshing out the quests and characters.
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I thought the combat in DOS was good, but I think calling the writing cringe is is underselling how unbelievably interminably bad it is. "Better writing than their last game" is all well and good, but does that elevate their writing from dogshit to Pathfinder: Kingmaker levels of bad, or…?
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This is a heinous issue I've been dealing with for months now. Whenever I press the left thumbstick on my Xbone controller, Steam opens up an unclosable on screen keyboard. How do I disable this? My solution up until this point has been to close the client whenever I play games outside of Steam, but now the client has started activating the keyboard while I'm playing games on their service. It overlays on top of all other applications and it captures every controller input. As far as I can tell there's no way to disable it without closing the whole program. How do I disable this?
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Beartaco posted:This is a heinous issue I've been dealing with for months now. Whenever I press the left thumbstick on my Xbone controller, Steam opens up an unclosable on screen keyboard. How do I disable this? It should be in Steam - Settings - Controller - Guide Button Chord Layout - Edit Layout - Joysticks. If anything says Show Keyboard, disable it.
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