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Ok Comboomer posted:American Musical is a moog partner and they do zero credit check interest free financing but this isn’t the Bad With Money thread I'm not sure if they have two financing systems there, but Affirm is not a great solution if that's the only one they offer. You need to link it to a credit card, and you need to have the full remaining balance available in credit every month. If you owe them $800 and need to make a $50 payment, you still need $800 in available credit on the card you used to get financing or you default and they demand full payment. And if you carry a balance month to month, it's also not interest free financing, you're just paying the interest to your cc company. If you want to pay it off early, it's a huge hassle. I went through this when I financed Ableton suite and never again
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Arms_Akimbo posted:I'm not sure if they have two financing systems there, but Affirm is not a great solution if that's the only one they offer. You need to link it to a credit card, and you need to have the full remaining balance available in credit every month. If you owe them $800 and need to make a $50 payment, you still need $800 in available credit on the card you used to get financing or you default and they demand full payment. And if you carry a balance month to month, it's also not interest free financing, you're just paying the interest to your cc company. If you want to pay it off early, it's a huge hassle. I went through this when I financed Ableton suite and never again I was deffo not talking about affirm, but maybe the matriarch is too pricey for their in-house financing (I think the cutoff is like $2500?) In either case, I thought I was clear that I was being facetious and in no way encourage poor financial decision-making
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Boody posted:They did get the Edge out eventually. If its not on sweetwater its not out imo
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Where's the BCR32, Behringer you wankers
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Flipperwaldt posted:Where's the BCR32, Behringer you wankers
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CatBlack posted:If its not on sweetwater its not out imo Looks like released in Europe in small batches. I picked one up in the UK a few weeks ago but seems European stockists are all out now and not expecting stock for 6-8 weeks.
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I really, really want a Matriarch.
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Flipperwaldt posted:Where's the BCR32, Behringer you wankers
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Any recommendations on dub sirens? There seem to be a handful of options on eBay and Reverb, some bespoke jobs and others like BeniDub's offerings. I'm leaning towards a BeniDub DS01E but it's a bit pricier than I'd like and really it doesn't nee to do much. EDIT: Onboard delay would be a nice feature though, something I don't think the more DIY-lookin'-rear end options don't have. Mister Speaker fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Aug 3, 2023 |
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Mister Speaker posted:Any recommendations on dub sirens? There seem to be a handful of options on eBay and Reverb, some bespoke jobs and others like BeniDub's offerings. I'm leaning towards a BeniDub DS01E but it's a bit pricier than I'd like and really it doesn't nee to do much. Purchased this one for a friend and we are still having a blast playing with it everytime he brings it. https://www.rigsmith.co.uk/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6yLp6KT2AE e: actually it was an older model but mostly the same as the new version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqrSy7aOtCU SpaceGoatFarts fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Aug 3, 2023 |
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sirs and madams and others -- the site is now called gearspace  I told sweetwater to go ahead and put me on the pro mini list, at 1015 am they said they showed an order expected ETA in oct and then within 30 mins they said "oops now it says January, I've never seen that happen before". Whatever, they don't charge until they actually ship and I'm going to spend like, 50 times that much money on nonsense gear and possibly a nice saxophone in that time, if life goes well 
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Cabbages and Kings posted:I told sweetwater to go ahead and put me on the pro mini list, at 1015 am they said they showed an order expected ETA in oct and then within 30 mins they said "oops now it says January, I've never seen that happen before".  I hope someday there’s a book about Behringer. I have a feeling that Ulli is very Musk-ish and just storms around ordering a bunch of underpaid engineers, “why don’t we have a <blank> on the market?! And it should be $99! Go make it happen!”
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Rod Hoofhearted posted:
I imagine it's an apt comparison, with the exception that Uli doesn't claim to have founded Mackie after he started stealing their designs
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Rod Hoofhearted posted:
Nah, say what you will about Behringer but Uli can clearly execute on a level that Elon could never approximate if it weren’t for his ability to buy and replace real innovative talent at places like Tesla/SpaceX/Twitter
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Ok Comboomer posted:Nah, say what you will about Behringer but Uli can clearly execute on a level that Elon could never approximate if it weren’t for his ability to buy and replace real innovative talent at places like Tesla/SpaceX/Twitter Now I feel bad for dumping on the B, because I think Uli would run intellectual laps around Elon, and, if Uli Behringer for some reason invited me to a house party I would absolutely go and if I got face time with him I would try to think of something interesting to ask to get some insight into him. I would not go to an event with Musk even if it gave me a chance to tell him in person my low opinion of him. The only Behringer product I've had a negative experience with was a noisy mixing board, and that's a pretty common complaint about the Eurorack series of mixers they make, and also they are priced well below comparable A&H stuff. I think the bArp is a well made, reasonably priced, thing. I almost pulled the trigger on a Neutron the other week because I saw a caseless one for $150 and even if I think of it as an obnoxiously oversized ring modulator that happens to have a bunch of other stuff, that seems fine (except for the part where I already have 4 semis in a perpetual state of being racked and unracked as I fill rackspace). I'm not annoyed by the unclear launch timing and 2-year?? hype train on the pro vs mini, I'm just amused by it. It's a fine fire-and-forget preorder, which I'm only likely to cancel if information about a eurorack version hardens in the meantime and it's some kind of reasonable <=22hp plate.
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yeah as much as i like to make fun of behringer and i find uli to be pretty contemptuous. at the very least his companies make products that work and are dirt cheap (relatively)
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I chronically look at the Legendary 2500 series and think about just jamming most of it into a small rack. I think this stuff looks nice, distinctive, it's cheap as bollacks and the stuff it's copying shouldn't offend anyone.
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Haha yea I just added all that up, and, without a rack, that is $750 worth of modules bought brand new. I might just do it some day, with 3xVCO and the mixer etc. Cheep.
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Cabbages and Kings posted:I chronically look at the Legendary 2500 series and think about just jamming most of it into a small rack. I think this stuff looks nice, distinctive, it's cheap as bollacks and the stuff it's copying shouldn't offend anyone. same, and also their Roland 100 clone stuff
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If I get any 2500 stuff I am probably no poo poo going to start with the mixer, because if there's a single component I'd expect to maybe have an annoying hiss to it, there you go, and how well that one piece does the thing it's supposed to do against known inputs is interesting. Also interesting to side-by-side it with the relatively more feature rich but also 4.5x as expensive Cosmix Pro, only analyzing it from the perspective of noise floor. a mental block I am having is that the more I tinker with this $400 alto sax, the more my brain chants TENOR, and at that point I'm instantly looking at low/mid 4-digits, it would eat my funstuff budget well into next year even if all goes well. I figure I'm best off holding back on purchases and continuing to practice as much as is fun, and the path will become clear. Been using my modular racks as a Very Expensive Metronome  I am going to get a sax pickup mic and a behr PP1 so I can dick with playing the thing through Spectraphon, that was half the reason I got it (that plus the ~2000 hrs lifetime play time or whatever I got from 8-9 years of band).
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Cabbages and Kings posted:a mental block I am having is that the more I tinker with this $400 alto sax, the more my brain chants TENOR gently caress, me too. drat this sax addiction.
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If you do get a 2500 Behringer clone I'd be interested in hearing your experience with it.
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If I weren't still on the "gently caress B for that antisemetic joke on Peter Kirn" train I'd have no beef with their clones of stuff that's long been out of production, like the Pro-1 and Monopoly. And hell not gonna lie their cheapo 2600 is still tempting.
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Tayter Swift posted:If I weren't still on the "gently caress B for that antisemetic joke on Peter Kirn" train I'd have no beef with their clones of stuff that's long been out of production, like the Pro-1 and Monopoly. And hell not gonna lie their cheapo 2600 is still tempting. I honestly never got the antisemitic angle. It was stupid, petty, childish, and worst of all not even funny, but like, the image on the fake product was a spitting image caricature of Peter Kirn, sniffing corks because the joke was he was a "cork sniffing wine snob" of the synth world. The nose was long like Pinocchio so that it could sniff 3 corks in a row, and because he was lying about being able to tell the difference. It just never made any sense to me why it would have anything to do with Semitism. toadee fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Aug 4, 2023 |
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I can see the anti-semitism angle if I am giving them 0 charity but they haven't done more stuff like that.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Pretty much the only behringer product I have ever been interested in getting is the model D, and that’s only because the alternative is over five grand Give in to the dark side, buy an ipad and get the model d app.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Pretty much the only behringer product I have ever been interested in getting is the model D, and that’s only because the alternative is over five grand SE-02! And it has patch memory
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CatBlack posted:I can see the anti-semitism angle if I am giving them 0 charity but they haven't done more stuff like that. I’m not one to blithely Pangloss over bad behavior, etc, nor do I want to give dog whistle actions the benefit of the doubt, but I find the idea that a contemporary German company that is as highly plugged into school and education markets across Europe as Behringer would make an organization-level choice to basically do an “ok symbol”-level public display of semi-covert antisemitism somewhat more far-fetched than the idea that some marketing dipshit in the relatively small synth division (or maybe even Uli himself) thought that they were getting a sick burn on Peter Kirn and didn’t stop to think about how their dumb Pinocchio drawing might be interpreted.
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I think it's at least somewhat decent that after having his feet held to the fire, Uli eventually followed through on his synths for kids promises. Low bar, but there's a lot of executives out there that would just try to continue on and ignore backlash.
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curried lamb of God posted:SE-02! And it has patch memory Plus sync, various cross-mod options, a far more usable sequencer, an editor app, and a decent delay.
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I like Behringer products because they're no frills and provide exactly what it says on the tin without needing to drop five times as much on a Roland or Shure or whatever or twenty times as much on a used piece of 70s/80s kit on Reverb.
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Kazinsal posted:I like Behringer products because they're no frills and provide exactly what it says on the tin without needing to drop five times as much on a Roland or Shure or whatever or twenty times as much on a used piece of 70s/80s kit on Reverb. Speaking strictly from my experience in the a/v equipment world, behringer products aren’t really that much cheaper when you factor in how many times you’re going to need to replace it due to random failure or show-derailing glitches compared to the shure or Roland
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saxes on the mind? synths? mutant brain? what am I doing in life https://soundcloud.com/suboptimal-synthesis/epic-synth-guy edit: bass drum straight from the unicorn's rear end. sidechaining one of the multed sax lines edit: oh yea someone on modwiggler asked if someone could scope an LFO and a smooth random going through Psychedelic Voltage Processor, so I did. This thing is hilarious and if it was less of a one-trick pony I could see having like six of them. I wonder if they'll make any other obnoxiously loving glaring christmas tree plated things. THE RBGAMER IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE RACK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyaboYVvhMc Cabbages and VHS fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Aug 5, 2023 |
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xzzy posted:Give in to the dark side, buy an ipad and get the model d app. Making music on ipad sucks absolute rear end.
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W424 posted:Making music on ipad sucks absolute rear end. can't even connect an M8
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Papa Was A Video Toaster posted:can't even connect an M8 Yes you can, I've driven AUM completely with my M8. Got a usb-c to usb micro wire off Amazon and it's grand. Not sure if lightning will do the right thing. Technically it should be fine, it's all usb. But Apple can be weird with that stuff. Soft synths ain't for everyone and I get it but a room full of heavy hardware and nests of wires ain't for me. I love space farting on the ipad.
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