staberind posted:

"AAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh, It's happening again, I've fallen down the "spend more time modding than playing" hole again
also, op needs an update, OpenMW is on .48 now

mbt posted:

if anyone wants to start a new playthrough and live-post and get some cool forum achievements imp zone's monthlong game is morrowind

https://impzone.club/index-long.html#title

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4020915&pagenumber=310#post533453888

featuring a modding competition

Drone posted:

I feel like I'm going slightly crazy after loving around with getting OpenMW to work with mods on a Steam Deck. Despite other people doing this and there being a ton of guides out there, I still don't get what the issue is. Has anyone else done this?

I read some stuff about how Luxtorpeda is apparently kinda bad for OpenMW (not sure if this has been fixed but it seems to be a problem for the past year or so?), so I went the route of installing OpenMW direct from Discover in desktop mode. Easy peasy, downloaded and located my Morrowind install, fun times. OpenMW launched in vanilla, no problems.

I then proceed to try to run through the I Heart Vanilla: Directors Cut modlist on my PC, downloading all of the mods and putting them in exactly the same folder structure that that site/OpenMW apparently recommend. Everything is good as far as I can see, so I slap the folder containing all of this onto a USB drive and transfer it to my Deck. I then manually edit openmw.config and settings.cfg per the CFG Generator and everything looks good. Now that I'm on my Deck, the mods are transferred over, and I've updated the .cfg files, there's only two things left to do: the last two steps in the modlist I linked above (Generating a Navmesh Cache and the Delta Plugin).

So I open up the OpenMW launcher to generate a navmesh cache. I instantly see that the data files were loaded in per my editing of the config files, which is good... wait a second, it's missing some things, including Tamriel_Data.esm, despite that mod existing and the directory being added in config. Okay... weird. Getting suspicious, I check the archives tab to see if the BSAs I registered in the config file were showing up -- nope, it's just showing me the three retail BSAs and not the new ones. I double-check that they're in the config file -- yep -- but they aren't showing up in the OpenMW launcher. I go into Morrowind.ini and add them there as well just in case, but no dice.

I proceed anyway and generate the navmesh cache, only then to get an error message pretty much immediately that some height files were not found. I mark that down as something to follow up on, and proceed to the Delta Plugin step anyway, since that shouldn't have any real dependency on the navmesh cache, right?

The Steam Deck being a Linux device, I open a console and enter this argument per the modding-openmw site's instructions:

code:

~/games/OpenMWMods/Tools/DeltaPlugin/delta_plugin merge ~/games/OpenMWMods/Tools/DeltaPlugin/delta-merged.omwaddon

The console immediately pops back a response that delta_plugin is a directory. That's it, that's the tweet, there is no further information. Thing is, delta_plugin isn't a directory, it's an executable... so I have no idea what the issue is here and no idea how to proceed.

I don't really know what to do at this point besides nuke the mods folder and restore the original OpenMW settings files and just play unmodded, which is something I don't want to do, so... yeah. Any Deckhavers have any ideas?

mbt posted:

1. you should ask the openmw discord
2. i made the install on my main computer and then transferred it over. i'm not suggesting you do the same, but that ended up working for me.

SniperWoreConverse posted:

gently caress i missed dam near the whole month! If i can get this turd working again i'll post it. One pain in the rear end is:

code:

local logger = require("logging.logger") -- get ye log
local log = logger.new{
    name = modInfo.name .. " " .. modInfo.version,
    logLevel = "TRACE",
    logToConsole = true, -- doesn't seem to actually do this?
    includeTimestamp = true
}

idk i keep having to quit and look at the log file. Basically it has never logged to console at any point i've ever worked on it. It does include timestamps at least

I won't be able to get back at it for like 12 more hours anyway.

SniperWoreConverse posted:

It's because of the console is closed it doesn't work

I somehow have a problem where if the console is not open my entire ui is disabled

Jfc.

I wasted a bunch of time thinking I would be able to modify the meshes of objects after their creation, this appears to be not the case, and I dunno how to delete items thar are just on the ground.

Basically every time I fix something I break it

Jack B Nimble posted:

So, you're only using two handed? Because otherwise Block is an obvious melee choice for raising agility. It's going to be hard to use Sneak while in Heavy Armor. Also, if you've got skill points to spare, don't overlook unarmored, which still exists in Morrowind and will allow you to ditch a helmet and still feel like you're getting some value out of the slot.

Jack B Nimble posted:

You know, I'd really like a mod that just raises your speech craft a tiny bit every time you speak to someone, and automatically raises disposition, the way personality does. Can bribe for a permanent bonus, or intimidate for a high initial bonus that then inverts at triple penalty later. Something like that.

John Murdoch posted:

Zereth posted:

Try to pick up Mark, Recall, and the two Intervention spells, those can help with getting around. Or at least items that can cast them.

SniperWoreConverse posted:

If you're getting poo poo results maybe try slamming that money into training instead of gear. Imo farming or jerking around with trying to auto crouch walk around or whatever is such a waste of time that you could be better off console correcting whatever stats & skills you want.

Usually I stick to getting gear via loot, which is going to materialize what you want eventually, and use money to patch over any defective skills that started out crappy or aren't doing tremendous. If you focus too much on buying gear you could end up with the same few items lasting you the whole game every playthru, stuff like that. Immediately ramping to a full set of almost the second best armor at like level 2 or 3 gets old, personally.

John Murdoch posted:

Oh yeah, I've also kept some Intervention scrolls handy. Though they're a bit awkward to get used to at the moment due to their...well they're not unpredictable per se, but it's hard to exactly know where they're going to yeet me to, y'know? I tried to be clever and use one once already and ended up in the thick of Vivec or somesuch when I was just trying to get back to Balmora.

I'm also so used to ignoring magic that I didn't think to really investigate every last spell on offer in Balmora.

Zereth posted:

Well, seem you could take the Mage's Guild teleporter from Vivec to Balmora, or could've put a Mark in Balmora. Or put a mark in the thing you're exploring and use Intervention to get back to civilization to unload stuff and sleep and go back. Or if you ahve a mod to get more than one Mark you can use that to help shuttle around, or drop one on a place you'll need to go that's hard to get to, etc.

While looking for spells also keep an eye out for Restore [Attribute] being able to patch up your damaged stats is very useful.

Zereth posted:

Also yeah, not everything is actually practical to level through use in Morrowind, especially if it's low. I think if you've got low Sneak and heavy armor you are basically never going to successfully sneak when sneak checks actually happen, so you'll never actually get credit towards it increasing.