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Russia has stolen plans from America to make their own naval drone. Concept art leaked below:
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Aug 5, 2023 19:10
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Afakasi posted:Russia has stolen plans from America to make their own naval drone. Concept art leaked below:  I think this variant goes better with the Putin's theme.
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Aug 5, 2023 19:13
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Aug 5, 2023 19:17
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Afakasi posted:Russia has stolen plans from America to make their own naval drone. Concept art leaked below: how are they gonna pilot the Thunder without Hulk Ho- Randolph "Hurricane" Spencer
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Aug 5, 2023 19:20
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https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1687832099913420800#mquote:russian oil exports threatened for the first time by maritime drone attack near Novorossiysk port – Financial Times. 
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Aug 5, 2023 19:25
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Speaking of Anders Nielsen, he had a new video on the Wagner situation with Poland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIkufcRFEds
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Aug 5, 2023 19:28
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Aug 5, 2023 19:44
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zone posted:Seems like the cope cage worked against the RPG round too, before it was disabled. Against simpler older style RPG rounds the cages can work. In that ones case the fuse just didn't go off though. Typically they cause the warhead to detonate prematurely so it can't pierce the armor. Doesn't work against the more modern tandem warhead ATGM's though. I think even some of the 80's era munitions can go through cage or slat armor too.
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Aug 5, 2023 20:17
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Unfortunate
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Aug 5, 2023 20:21
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https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1687873600655851520#m A massive missile attack was launched at Ukraine again this night. There were hits. Ukraine vowed to pay them out for it. https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1687905067397980160#m https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1687905549323468800#m and it seems like they already got to work.
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Aug 5, 2023 20:26
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RDM posted:Does the US even have drone boats? They seem less useful than drone aircraft or regular missiles for basically everything except maybe loitering time. Yeah, it's basically a worse torpedo, slower and interceptable by an alert crewman with a machine gun. So not something that anyone with an actual navy with modern weapons would bother with. But it's a good improvisation if you don't happen to have any 100k aircraft carriers and nuclear attack subs.
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Aug 5, 2023 20:33
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A new threat of Iranian lawnmower drones was announced by the Ukrainian air force.
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Aug 5, 2023 20:38
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MrQwerty posted:how are they gonna pilot the Thunder without Hulk Ho- Randolph "Hurricane" Spencer 
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Aug 5, 2023 20:52
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Deptfordx posted:Yeah, it's basically a worse torpedo, slower and interceptable by an alert crewman with a machine gun. So not something that anyone with an actual navy with modern weapons would bother with. But it's a good improvisation if you don't happen to have any 100k aircraft carriers and nuclear attack subs. What sort of aiming modes do modern torpedoes have*, anyway? Are they aimed like AA missiles where you feed them some target info to head towards and their own seekers take over as they get closer, or do they have a ground attack like "follow these waypoints and pick a target with these specs within this area; self destruct if there are none" mode? Aim by wire all the way to the target? Basically, I'm wondering if the drones have an advantage in the roundabout routes they can take to the target. * According to publicly available data etc
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Aug 5, 2023 21:13
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Computer viking posted:What sort of aiming modes do modern torpedoes have*, anyway? Are they aimed like AA missiles where you feed them some target info to head towards and their own seekers take over as they get closer, or do they have a ground attack like "follow these waypoints and pick a target with these specs within this area; self destruct if there are none" mode? Aim by wire all the way to the target? at least all of those and rc too
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Aug 5, 2023 21:16
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Computer viking posted:What sort of aiming modes do modern torpedoes have*, anyway? Are they aimed like AA missiles where you feed them some target info to head towards and their own seekers take over as they get closer, or do they have a ground attack like "follow these waypoints and pick a target with these specs within this area; self destruct if there are none" mode? Aim by wire all the way to the target? Yeah kind of, the advantage of the drones is their range, you can launch these from 500km away. With a torpedo you have to have a ship relatively close by. They can also just sit in the middle of the sea for a while (at least I'd assume they have some power reserves) and wait for a target to show up.
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Aug 5, 2023 21:24
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lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCl-u_2MEyM https://clips.twitch.tv/ElegantTemperedApplePicoMause-VCY99fPs8hKewayQ https://clips.twitch.tv/CautiousKawaiiJalapenoDxAbomb-v1I48NhrImc8hHg2 Toxic Mental fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Aug 5, 2023 |
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Aug 5, 2023 21:38
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:Against simpler older style RPG rounds the cages can work. In that ones case the fuse just didn't go off though. No, that's not how they work. The little bit of extra standoff distance does not meaningfully impact penetration. The way they and the slat armor used more in the west work is by mechanically crushing the warhead before detonation, making it not work, or even just stopping it without fuzing. RPG rounds need to hit something solid with the tip or they won't go off, and if the side hits an obstacle first while going very fast, it will just break the round.
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Aug 5, 2023 21:51
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wow gently caress hasan
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Aug 5, 2023 22:16
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HonorableTB posted:wow gently caress hasan Very good disection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtAz5bWsEbw&t=5s
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Aug 5, 2023 22:27
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Aug 5, 2023 22:31
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Toxic Mental posted:Very good disection id never heard of this guy until these posts. looks like basically ben shapiro for tankie gamers?
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Aug 5, 2023 22:44
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Yeah that's pretty much accurate The funniest part is where he, to try and bolster his point, literally just parrots Lavrov's propaganda
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Aug 5, 2023 22:47
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The guy's uncle is Cenk Uyger, and Hasan also was on the Young Turks. They're all cranks
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Aug 5, 2023 23:11
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Toxic Mental posted:lol drat, that's upsetting.
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Aug 5, 2023 23:21
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Tuna-Fish posted:No, that's not how they work. The little bit of extra standoff distance does not meaningfully impact penetration. The way they and the slat armor used more in the west work is by mechanically crushing the warhead before detonation, making it not work, or even just stopping it without fuzing. RPG rounds need to hit something solid with the tip or they won't go off, and if the side hits an obstacle first while going very fast, it will just break the round. Right, these days the function of slat or cage armor is to add the possibility of the warhead being mangled or simply caught or bounced without an impact fuze being triggered. Reasonably modern shaped charges are muuuuch better designed than the stuff from the 40's and 50's and you may actually increase the effectiveness on target by adding a bit of distance. On top of that you have explosively formed penetrators (used in many top attack munitions, for example) that effectively give zero fucks about standoff distance because the shaped charge is just throwing a hyper velocity kinetic projectile - a bit of air or even a thin metal plate thrown into its path by ERA aren't going to present much of an obstacle. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Aug 5, 2023 |
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Aug 5, 2023 23:22
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Ohh is that the same Hasan the lefties are fawning over? The one that did some poo poo with AOC? I've thankfully had no exposure to him until now, that looks completely insufferable.
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Aug 5, 2023 23:22
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boofhead posted:id never heard of this guy until these posts. looks like basically ben shapiro for tankie gamers? In general, I find that he's good on US domestic policy, but, like many left leaning commentators, his foreign policy takes are pretty bad. I think it stems from a desire to lower the global influence of the US which, in general, I agree is a good goal. However, it leads many to think that if the US is supportive of something, it must be bad. Edit: I think my statement that his overall foreign policy takes are pretty bad isn't accurate. I think it's more accurate to say his foreign policy takes are a mixed bag.
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Aug 5, 2023 23:24
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confused posted:In general, I find that he's good on US domestic policy, but, like many left leaning commentators, his foreign policy takes are pretty bad. I think it stems from a desire to lower the global influence of the US which, in general, I agree is a good goal. However, it leads many to think that if the US is supportive of something, it must be bad. In a more pragmatic/practical sense, it's unlikely that the influence of the USA can be realistically lowered to the extent most left-leaning/leftist commentators would like to see barring black swan events like the 2016 election of Trump.
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Aug 5, 2023 23:38
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If you ask him about Armenians he gets really mad at you
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Aug 5, 2023 23:40
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I have only seen the linked videos, including the 40ish critical analysis, so maybe he's not always like this, but his schtick and mannerisms and rhetoric in those segments are loving insane and one of the things I find myself hating about the new internet and the American dominated global propaganda war, from both sides of the spectrum - which is also a bullshit notion but whatever This twitch socialist/libertarian commercialisation is not about the argument or discussion or learning or evidence, it's about having a masturbatory media presence that gets people angry and grows your "influencer" platform and obviously don't forget to like and subscribe and help pay for my third jacuzzi, because everybody has to have the One True Hot Take To Rule Them All as though social education is just another round of American Idol Conversely I really liked the guy who did that long form video because he's so clearly holding himself back from gratuitous gotchas even though they would have been so damned easy, but when your target demographic is angry 13 year old narcissist tankies there's just no money or ego boost in doing a Perun style video so of course the view counts are just a million times lower e: vv yeah i'm phrasing this badly because i'm tired and dealing with some brain fog, i meant to say that if i compare the hasan guy to perun or lonerbox, the latter two are doing it a million times better, but hasan is playing "the market" so obviously he's getting amplified to an absurd degree even though his content and approach and ideas are garbage. at least from the snippets at hand boofhead fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Aug 5, 2023 |
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Aug 5, 2023 23:40
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At least Perun not only has a background in what he speaks about, he never fails to do his due diligence before taking up any topic. It's won him praise even from the military and intelligence community on a few occasions.
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Aug 5, 2023 23:43
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RDM posted:Does the US even have drone boats? They seem less useful than drone aircraft or regular missiles for basically everything except maybe loitering time. I don't know if the project was completed but they were in development in conjunction with a bunch of universities in 2014/2015. I worked at FAU during grad school assisting other grad students with travel and I helped someone get funding to present on their naval drone work at a NATO conference in Italy. The Navy has a bunch of weird contracts out with random schools.
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Aug 5, 2023 23:44
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Dilber posted:I don't know if the project was completed but they were in development in conjunction with a bunch of universities in 2014/2015. I worked at FAU during grad school assisting other grad students with travel and I helped someone get funding to present on their naval drone work at a NATO conference in Italy. The Navy has a bunch of weird contracts out with random schools. I missed the OP's question but there's this thing that I saw recently:  https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/our-best-look-yet-at-the-marines-new-loitering-munition-toting-drone-boat It's much bigger than the Ukrainian suicide boats obviously but also has launcher for drones or missiles 
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Aug 5, 2023 23:53
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mobby_6kl posted:Ohh is that the same Hasan the lefties are fawning over? The one that did some poo poo with AOC? I've thankfully had no exposure to him until now, that looks completely insufferable. He is just cosplaying a leftist, i dont think i have ever seen him espouse any real progressive ideas. He isnt always as insufferable as in those clips but after watching him now and then i came to the conclusion that he just is not that bright and he is just constantly doing reactions to some pretty insipid and banal culture and politics poo poo. It is the attention economy nonsense, like he was live streaming the stupid jonny depp case and his fanbase gobbled up his half baked opinions when he would pause to react
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Aug 5, 2023 23:57
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boofhead posted:I have only seen the linked videos, including the 40ish critical analysis, so maybe he's not always like this, but his schtick and mannerisms and rhetoric in those segments are loving insane and one of the things I find myself hating about the new internet and the American dominated global propaganda war, from both sides of the spectrum - which is also a bullshit notion but whatever The thing about capitalism capturing all possible critiques of capitalism is people start making those critiques with the express intent of getting paid for getting captured by capitalism. One of the unspoken tenants of leftism, "you're going to stay poor, or, at least uncomfortably, perilously, lower middle class, and you're going to refuse all offers to sell out for a more comfortable life until everyone can live that life" is pretty much a no-go. This is also why leftist movements, at least in america, a land where grifters are idolized, gets devoured by hucksters almost immediately once they grow to statistically significant sizes (Black Lives Matters Inc, etc). The mentality is basically that a vast pool of people working toward a communal goal is just free money some fools left on the table for you to steal for your own. zone posted:In a more pragmatic/practical sense, it's unlikely that the influence of the USA can be realistically lowered to the extent most left-leaning/leftist commentators would like to see barring black swan events like the 2016 election of Trump. The phrase "these things seem impossible, until they happen" comes to mind. I cannot look at the past twenty years and say ANY source of power remaining stable is a sure thing. Trump may or may not go to prison, but the dozens of millions of assholes who would like to see the libs get owned remain*. *uh, minus the ones that all died en masse in covid, of old age, etc, but those are being replaced by especially nasty little now-middle aged 4channers, DeSantis is basically 'before his time', the awful turbo death nazi cartoon perverts are not quite there as a voting bloc, but they're getting there. Ronwayne fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Aug 6, 2023 |
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Aug 6, 2023 00:03
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvlJ7KJNWp8/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== The Belarus' special forces demonstration is amazing
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Aug 6, 2023 00:06
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https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1687942878478114816#m
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Aug 6, 2023 00:11
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This story is big obviously because of the extreme nature of it-- but you have to imagine shades of this are going to happen all over Russia for the next few decades when killer criminals with PTSD and drinking problems pepper the homeland
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A small thread about the tanker that was hit https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1687695867313086464?s=20
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Aug 6, 2023 00:43
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