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Friend posted:Fwiw, I saw Bridesmaids like a year or two after it came out and while I wouldn't be as vitriolic as you were, it was a bad movie then and I was baffled by why it was so popular. It was one of the big reasons why I knew Ghostbusters 2016 would be bad. Paul Feig sucks and ad-libbed comedies get worse every decade that passes since they were invented. The real crime wasn't that the Ghostbusters were ladies, it's that you made a Ghostbusters movie boring.
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Zero_Grade posted:I caught GB '16 on TV a couple years after it came out and tried to watch it with as open a mind as possible, remembering all the controversy around its release. Even then, I was still like....really? It felt like a remake that fundamentally didn't understand the original movie. There's no focus on developing a serious background plot juxtaposed with comedic character work, or subtle humor instead of bad slapstick, or even any particularly interesting cinematography. It was a bad movie but for completely different reasons than chuds were mad about The endless planned improv riffing in movies needs to die
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The 2016 Ghostbusters was badly edited too. Combined with endless improv to get one "useable" joke gave us… that. Honestly I think the movie would've been spared the controversy if it was anything but a Ghostbusters movie. But tying it to the franchise just tied the millstone of expectations around its neck.
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I saw Spawn in theaters too because I got free tickets and liked the comic, along with the HBO show. It sucked but for free it was Ok and plus I was high as a motherfucker. The weird detail that stands out for me is, while waiting in the lobby or concession stand, I overheard someone looking at the posters say "that's that FREAK movie". No idea what "non freak" film they had bought tickets for. That's all I remember about SPawn aside from John Leguizamo chewing scenery.
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BiggerBoat posted:No idea what "non freak" film they had bought tickets for. Air Force One (July 25) Conspiracy Theory (August 8) Spawn (August 1) George of the Jungle (July 18) Men in Black (July 2) Cop Land (August 15) Picture Perfect (August 1) Contact (July 11) G.I. Jane (August 22) Event Horizon (August 15) Air Bud (August 1)
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Ah they were probably talking about Event Horizon Or maybe Air Bud
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FFT posted:Domestic Box Office for August 1997 Man, that's a good lineup.
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Byzantine posted:Man, that's a good lineup. 15 Face/Off (June 27) 17 Good Burger (July 25) 22 The Lost World: Jurassic Park (May 23) 23 Con Air (June 6) 24 Free Willy 3: The Rescue (August 8) (lol) 29 Liar Liar (March 21) 30 The Fifth Element (May 9) 31 Batman & Robin (June 20) 32 Steel (August 15) 34 Hercules (Jun 15) 39 The Full Monty (August 15) The best weekend of all time was a year prior, though. July 5-7, 1996, these were all in theaters: Independence Day The Nutty Professor Phenomenon The Hunchback of Notre Dame Eraser The Rock Striptease Twister Mission: Impossible The Cable Guy DragonHeart Lone Star Toy Story stringless has a new favorite as of 01:34 on Aug 6, 2023 |
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Baron von Eevl posted:Frank Welker has 3 styles, nibbler from futurama's animal noises, nibbler from futurama's melodramatic speaking voice, and the cave of wonders from Aladdin. I'm reminded how Steve Blum has voiced Spike from Cowboy Bebop, Wolverine and many characters who clearly are trying to be Wolverine, and Guilmon from Digimon Tamers.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm reminded how Steve Blum has voiced Spike from Cowboy Bebop, Wolverine and many characters who clearly are trying to be Wolverine, and Guilmon from Digimon Tamers. He was also the Piney Apple in the .hack games but that's basically just the Guilmon voice again. 
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Meanwhile Fred Tatasciore is just anything and everything.
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oh some more IIMM for vampire movies. (its Daybreakers, I think my previous post about vampire IIMM was also Daybreakers. Also the movie setup is a minor joke now. A disease in 2019 changes the world. [the movie was made in 2009]) ah yes a tree provides enough shade for a vampire. its not like trees have grass and other small plants growing in its shadow/100000% UV blocking canopy.
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PhazonLink posted:ah yes a tree provides enough shade for a vampire. its not like trees have grass and other small plants growing in its shadow/100000% UV blocking canopy.
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Pilchenstein posted:If a dracula is under a tree then the sun can't see it to set it on fire, this is fairly basic stuff. Some people like to flaunt their lack of education. Sad, really.
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Look, it's the Suzy Izzard "low energy vampire" lore, where he's just gonna go around going "Pfffth!" at people. Sometimes you just want to be vaguely spooky but don't want to commit the energy to transforming and poo poo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLZ70ukBMTY&t=186s
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My favourite Airplane! related gag not from the movie itself was an interview I saw with the two actors who played the jive-talking guys, explaining how they came in and basically wrote their own dialogue and such. And the documentary-makers subtitled everything they were saying back into jive again.
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I'm curious what the first vampire story to float the idea that UV light hurts vampires was. Its become a widely accepted thing, basically anything set in the modern day featuring vampires will have UV torches (or UV grenades) harming vampires, usually to the point where you start to wonder how vampires arent extinct in the 21st century as anyone can pick up a vampire-killing torch off amazon for less than 10 bucks, or be safe from vampires by sheltering in most nightclubs or bowling alleys. Its a perfectly fine/logical trope which was fun the first few times I saw it but... I'd like to see a piece of modern vampire media where someone whips out a UV torch only for it to have no effect on the vampire, because they arent allergic to UV, they are killed by sunlight. If a fictional universes vampires are under effectively a magical curse (rather than being victims of a blood disease or whatever), theres no reason that UV (which is a part of sunlight) has to hurt them any more than regular water (which is after all a part of holy water) has to have any effect.
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It was the movie Nosferatu iirc and literally just because they apparently couldn't figure out how to end the movie so they basically went 'and then the sun comes up and kills him'. Though if you mean UV light in particular, no idea. Does remind me Lovecraft had some stories where various pieces of technology were used to fight monsters to various but often eventual success, proto-Ghostbusters style. Even one has them find what turns out to be a sleeping monster buried underground, and they just get some big barrels of acid to pour down the hole.
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Yeah, I specifically mean "non-sunlight source of UV has the same effect as sunlight". Like there are certain "traditional" aspects of vampires that most stories stick to; Sunlight, garlic, holy water and holy symbols hurt them. I'm slightly curious as to what exactly was the first media to go "Oh, sunlight has UV in it, so UV light = Sunlight as far as vampires are concerned" which was then used to the point where most modern-day set vampire media uses the idea. I've seen stories where a holy symbol doesnt repel a vampire because the person holding it doesnt have faith, but I dont think I've ever seen a vampire story where a UV light didnt harm a vampire because its not light from the actual sun.
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I quite like the Pratchett idea that holy symbols only hurt vampires if they believe they can.
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OwlFancier posted:I quite like the Pratchett idea that holy symbols only hurt vampires if they believe they can. Dracula 2000 is a terrible movie but I still enjoy it. And it has a scene where this happens.
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Salems Lot did that too in a real solid scene that apparently is a major plot point in one of the Dark Tower books
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It was also in the original book version of I Am Legend. Where his Jewish vampire neighbor doesn't care about a cross but freaks out when he sees a Star of David.
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Back in [checks wiki...] 1967, The Fearless Vampire Killers had a Jewish vampire who just laughs off crucifixes.muscles like this! posted:It was also in the original book version of I Am Legend. Where his Jewish vampire neighbor doesn't care about a cross but freaks out when he sees a Star of David. Lol, and I'm already beaten by over a decade!
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Len posted:Salems Lot did that too in a real solid scene that apparently is a major plot point in one of the Dark Tower books Isn't that because Callaghan's faith wavers? He becomes fixed on the idea of "crosses repel vampires" rather than "God will protect me" and so it stops working. Which I guess is technically very Christian, but still has a semi-Lovecraftian feel to me. God exists, faith is real, but it doesn't neccesarily work how you think it does, and you're still puny and insigifnicant.
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muscles like this! posted:It was also in the original book version of I Am Legend. Where his Jewish vampire neighbor doesn't care about a cross but freaks out when he sees a Star of David. The original series of Dr Who had an atheist Soviet officer repel vampires through his faith in glorious communism as represented by a small necklace with a hammer and sickle on it.
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Nihilists are screwed.
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MajorBonnet posted:Nihilists are screwed. Only if they don't really believe in nihilism
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MajorBonnet posted:Nihilists are screwed. Narcissists, however...
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OwlFancier posted:I quite like the Pratchett idea that holy symbols only hurt vampires if they believe they can. Marvel's (sometimes) had it work that way - there's an issue where Dr Strange or someone tries to use a crucifix against an ancient vampire who laughs in his face and points out "I predate Christianity, why would their symbols mean anything to me?"
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muscles like this! posted:It was also in the original book version of I Am Legend. Where his Jewish vampire neighbor doesn't care about a cross but freaks out when he sees a Star of David. Yeah, Matheson's approach was the vampires hate anything that reminds them of their former life, like religious symbols if they strongly followed that faith, or seeing their own reflections. It's not actually a magical power against them, they just really really hate it.
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Angry Salami posted:Marvel's (sometimes) had it work that way - there's an issue where Dr Strange or someone tries to use a crucifix against an ancient vampire who laughs in his face and points out "I predate Christianity, why would their symbols mean anything to me?" My favorite Marvel Vampire moment was when vampires from the moon (  ) are about to invade and conquer earth. The comic's hero gives them one last chance to Not Attack and they laugh in his face... and then burn up upon entry in the atmosphere.They weren't invited.
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In the 1999 Brendan Fraiser masterpiece, The Mummy, there's a scene where a character encounters the mummy. He shows the mummy a cross, a muslim crescent, and a seated Buddha. The mummy doesn't give a gently caress, but finally reacts to a Star of David. Makes sense, none of the other religions would have existed before 2500 years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnsyQh0FfoM
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Last year I got an Orthodox vampire novel published, where I determined that it's the specific iconography that terrifies vampires. A cross--especially a crucifix--is a bitter reminder that they're ultimately frauds whose immortality depends on preying on others, rather than love, humility, and sacrifice. When the MC finds herself without a cross at one point, she's able to get the same effect with an icon of the Virgin Mary. That said, I also depict it as a conquerable fear. There's a scene where a vampire winds up with a cross around her own neck, and it puts her in a catatonic state that temporarily allows her original soul to speak out. But the longer the vampire wears it, the more she's able to resist it, and take over the body again.
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There was a cool part in Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines where your vampire is captured by a scientifically minded human and he puts you in a chamber flooded with UV light and it doesn't do poo poo, teaching him it specifically has to be Sunlight. He also sends out a goon in a hazmat suit to try and scare you with the cross and it doesn't do jack poo poo so you just get to treat him like a free juice box, because in VTM you need genuine faith to make poo poo like that work.
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Blindsight, by Peter Watts, has vampires as a parallel evolution species that died out with the rise of human civilisation. perfect (or near enough to perfect) right angles make their brains break due to complciated reasons I can't remember but made sense while reading about it. I love that book and, with years of study and introspection, one day I might understand a tenth of what happens in it.
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IshmaelZarkov posted:Blindsight, by Peter Watts, has vampires as a parallel evolution species that died out with the rise of human civilisation. perfect (or near enough to perfect) right angles make their brains break due to complciated reasons I can't remember but made sense while reading about it. Explaining this book to people is hilarious. "So like, they're in space, and there's this vampire - " "Oh, it's a book about space vampires?" "It's not even ABOUT the space vampires!"
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IshmaelZarkov posted:perfect (or near enough to perfect) right angles make their brains break due to complciated reasons I can't remember but made sense while reading about it.
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its bad, op
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