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Assepoester posted:The best part was the "well when the game crashes due to running out of memory we just had it throw up a disc read error" sonic 3D famously did something similar to sneak crashes past certification, if it crashed it would jump to the hidden level select screen and present it as if the user had done something to make it happen
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TheScott2K posted:I have such a soft spot for Doom 3 I ebayed the steelbook version of the xbox port just to have it. Lucked out, too, pretty sure the original owner never took it off the shelf. This is lovely, might try and track it down myself. Yeah Doom 3 is a “comfy” game for me. I just really dig it. I agree with those who say the weapon feel could be better but I always have a good time with it. Nice mix of nostalgia, those super clean early 2000’s PC visuals that hold up super well, love the atmosphere and dark etc..
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Beyond the weapon issues, it always felt like Doom 3 couldn't quite reconcile the intentionally(?) somewhat campy haunted house aspects with the seemingly dead serious tough and macho shooter game for tough and macho boys stank that infested a lot of games. They just sort of awkwardly exist in parallel with no self-awareness or irony or anything. Like man, imagine refactoring Doom 3 into a House of the Dead game. Bare minimum, it's always annoyed me that you're obligated to check emails and audio logs for locker codes, but the writing on them is so repetitive and boring.
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repiv posted:sonic 3D famously did something similar to sneak crashes past certification, if it crashed it would jump to the hidden level select screen and present it as if the user had done something to make it happen The old Twinstick Arcade SMASH TV also had a similar fudge, I remember triggering it a few times playing the game way back when and wondering what I did to get the 'SECRET WARP'  quote:https://tcrf.net/Smash_T.V._(Arcade)
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Sir Lemming posted:Either way, it's probably safe to say he wasn't quite the workhorse he is these days. Also I think “disc read error” was the go-to default error message on the 360 in the event of a crash.
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John Murdoch posted:Bare minimum, it's always annoyed me that you're obligated to check emails and audio logs for locker codes, but the writing on them is so repetitive and boring. Selaco seem like it's gonna have this. Did FEAR have this type of thing, since it's way more of a FEAR-like than D3
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Milo and POTUS posted:Selaco seem like it's gonna have this. Did FEAR have this type of thing, since it's way more of a FEAR-like than D3 FEAR didn't have lockers to open, but it did have laptop/data logs to collect.
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On an alternative note, where did this thread settle on Supplice? It’s currently on sale and I feel like picking up a new game, to go with the other new games I haven’t played yet and the old games I can’t stop playing. Tempted between Supplice or the slightly adjacent to this threads interests, Jupiter Hell. Typically not super keen on rogue likes though for the latter.
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Bumhead posted:On an alternative note, where did this thread settle on Supplice? Supplice isn't anywhere near finished yet. It has one full episode and one teaser map for a second episode. That said, if you've played Back to Saturn X Episode 2 and the like and want to give some money for a GZDoom TC along those lines, you'll get that quality. Arivia fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Aug 5, 2023 |
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:I know we've talked about it in here before, but it bears repeating that SS4's level design is really one of the strangest things I've seen in a while. Here's a massive worldspace--basically a map straight out of an ARMA game--and most of the time there's no established boundaries to the intended level "space". You can just wander off for kilometers across forests and hills. This unlocked a deep-seated memory of playing Delta Force Black Hawk Down multiplayer in high school, which similarly had no map boundaries. So many people styled themselves snipers and would go out for a hike in the trackless desert to find a good perch overlooking the actual map.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:I know we've talked about it in here before, but it bears repeating that SS4's level design is really one of the strangest things I've seen in a while. Here's a massive worldspace--basically a map straight out of an ARMA game--and most of the time there's no established boundaries to the intended level "space". You can just wander off for kilometers across forests and hills. It's an artifact of them building a different open-world game, and then just reusing the data for SS4, yeah? It's something like a big chunk of France or something, IIRC. It is pretty hilarious that you can really just keep walking, though.
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Bumhead posted:On an alternative note, where did this thread settle on Supplice? Jupiter Hell was the game that made me realize that no, Roguelikes are not for me. I've played a few, in many genres, but I always end up quitting because I can never make any real progress. Jupiter Hell's an okay game, but the fact that everything starts converging on you the second you make a sound, paired with a tendency for levels to be made with large spaces in a game where most of the combat for you and the enemy is ranged, caused me to lose so much. I don't think it's going to win you over. I'm waiting until Supplice is out of EA to pick it up. What I saw from Icarus trying it out a while back was solid enough. I'm still in the middle of Boltgun - good stuff, but I'm getting all the complaints of uneven level design and damage sponge enemies (holy crap that first boss was a mess).
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Quantum of Phallus posted:The new levels in ROTT: Ludicrous Edition are excellent. Really fun and well-designed. That's really nice to know because with my huge backlog, ROTT wasn't up there in my list for giving it again more time. Everyone says that the port is fantastic and well, at least the new levels will make up the price.
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Supplice shows a lot of promise. The art in it is great.
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Guillermus posted:That's really nice to know because with my huge backlog, ROTT wasn't up there in my list for giving it again more time. Everyone says that the port is fantastic and well, at least the new levels will make up the price. Definitely. It’s well worth the price. It runs like a dream on Steam Deck.
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Grimthwacker posted:I'm waiting until Supplice is out of EA to pick it up. What I saw from Icarus trying it out a while back was solid enough. I'm still in the middle of Boltgun - good stuff, but I'm getting all the complaints of uneven level design and damage sponge enemies (holy crap that first boss was a mess). The bosses sponginess bothered me a lot less than the default enemies since you probably wouldn't chuck a vortex grenade at the plague toads. Seriously those things would be a bear at half HP
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John Murdoch posted:Beyond the weapon issues, it always felt like Doom 3 couldn't quite reconcile the intentionally(?) somewhat campy haunted house aspects with the seemingly dead serious tough and macho shooter game for tough and macho boys stank that infested a lot of games. They just sort of awkwardly exist in parallel with no self-awareness or irony or anything. Like man, imagine refactoring Doom 3 into a House of the Dead game. It always felt kinda like they knew you, the player, would see things as absurd, but tried to make it so everyone in universe took it completely serious at face value. Like the chainsaw shipment. This was a few years before the super seriousness seemed to take everything over, at least to my recollection. I feel like that polluted everything after Modern Warfare became an insane hit.
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Eventually you notice that almost all the logs have a template. “The other day I had a weird feeling in one particular area, like it was full of demons or something. They sent in some guy to investigate and later on they found his body parts strewn all over the place. I dunno man, it made me kinda wonder what’s going on. Anyway, the locker code is 123”
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It's been ten weeks since I saw Susan. Our last contact was a furious row over who was going to look after her mother while she recovered from the treatments. Hopefully the money I've saved working the night shifts in alpha labs will be enough to cover the insurance bills. The stress has really been getting to me recently, though. I've heard her voice whispering to me late at night from under the floor panels. Also I put some loose bullets in the tool cabinet, code is 42069
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Speaking of Selaco I tried my weekly venture to twatter to see if any release date and man it looks so good and promising. I might be anticipating it more than Cultic Ch2. Does anyone know why I can look up Selaco on twitter but the beyond sunset account sends me to a sign in?
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Milo and POTUS posted:Does anyone know why I can look up Selaco on twitter but the beyond sunset account sends me to a sign in?
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The ROTT remaster is indeed quite good. Though one of the more infamous levels is still a bitch and a half: Meet Rocky Plateau, a super wide open level where the whole objective is to hope you stumble across the touchplates that act as triggers to open the secret walls, which then contain more touchplates that open walls somewhere else in the level. Back and forth. Back and forth. Touchplates open walls to switches across the level, which opens a wall across the level again to a hidden touchplate. That's 25/26 secrets found in the level. 
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manero posted:It's an artifact of them building a different open-world game, and then just reusing the data for SS4, yeah? It's something like a big chunk of France or something, IIRC. That was the case with Serious Sam 3's aesthetic to my understanding: the devs were formerly working on some modern military shooter that didn't pan out, so they repurposed the assets for SS3. With regards to SS4, I'm not sure if it's the exact same thing, but they definitely seemed to have intended for something else before they had to scale back the scope of the game. For example, people have mentioned that the Pompei level is 92km² (or basically ~8,400 square kilometers); in the "A Breakfast in France" level, it's possibly closer to ~17,000(!) square kilometers. It's absolutely berserk that these maps are larger than a lot of open world games, and 99% of the space isn't used for any real purpose.
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croteam have an ancient curse where everything they touch turns to Serious Sam. whatever they try to make, however hard they try, all that will come out is serious sam, and the harder they try the worse that serious sam game will turn out to be. the one time they tried to just make a serious sam game, we got SS2 which was actually pretty great (if saddled with the worst humor that exists outside of DNF)
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:That was the case with Serious Sam 3's aesthetic to my understanding: the devs were formerly working on some modern military shooter that didn't pan out, so they repurposed the assets for SS3. SS3 also reused several enemies/assets from the proposal they gave id to make a third-party Doom game after Doom 4 was cancelled mid-development. Which, in combination with the canceled military shooter, makes the game feel like a sort of unsatisfying grab bag. And I can’t comment on SS4, I legit gave up after a half hour. I want to root for Croteam, but ever since SS2 it feels like they’re stretched too thin to fully execute.
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I'm the little paper that came with Doom 3 warning players of the terrifying video game that lied within.
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juggalo baby coffin posted:croteam have an ancient curse where everything they touch turns to Serious Sam. whatever they try to make, however hard they try, all that will come out is serious sam, and the harder they try the worse that serious sam game will turn out to be. Yeah the exception to this being The Talos Principle, which is fantastic in my opinion. Hopefully TTP2 is just as good.
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Talos Principle is a genuinely fantastic game, brilliantly written. I think they are working on a sequel. Never liked any Serious Sam game, though. They look and play well enough but get boring really quickly.
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Bumhead posted:On an alternative note, where did this thread settle on Supplice? supplice is great, even if it's just the one episode so far. it's in ea so, shockingly, the 2-3month timeline per episode they originally advertised was off the mark. but i would still recommend it. jupiter hell i dropped pretty quick after discovering it was a grid turn based thing and not a twin stick shooter. booooring
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Terminally Bored posted:Talos Principle is a genuinely fantastic game, brilliantly written. I think they are working on a sequel. Never liked any Serious Sam game, though. They look and play well enough but get boring really quickly. Yes! It is one of my favorite games from that golden age of 2015-2019. Incredible writing, great puzzles. I don’t think I’ve ever been more satisfied finishing a game like that one. The DLC is brutal and hilarious too.
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Jupiter Hell is one of two roguelikes I’ve ever beaten more than once. the other one is DCSS and 2/3 of those wins were gargoyle fighter  But anyway I liked Jupiter Hell even back when it was DoomRL, and I think it’s a pretty good game. It’s much more forgiving and easier to approach than the average roguelike, for $10 I’d buy it.Supplice is a pretty decent GZDoom scenario with Marathon-style terminals for plot. (The plot is also Marathon-style) In this case the terminals are basically future interstellar megacorp twitter, which is kind of a funny take on the format. But also it’s kind of like reading twitter to figure out what’s going on, so ymmv. It’s well made but it’s coming along slowly though, I don’t expect a finished game for a couple years.
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juggalo baby coffin posted:croteam have an ancient curse where everything they touch turns to Serious Sam. whatever they try to make, however hard they try, all that will come out is serious sam, and the harder they try the worse that serious sam game will turn out to be. But their best game is The Talos Principle, which isn't a SS game... edit (oh, too late...)
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Arivia posted:FEAR didn't have lockers to open, but it did have laptop/data logs to collect. Though even beyond the lack of locker codes, the way FEAR implemented and used those collectibles is still miles away from how Doom 3 did it.
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Sir Lemming posted:I can't remember what thread it was, but recently someone was discussing this and the clearest explanation seems to be here: Yeah nowadays he's everywhere, like I went and saw that new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie(which was excellent by the way) and bam there he is in the end credits
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He did the score for Manke too which I believe was his first properly fully non-electronic arrangement (Manke is good too if you haven't seen it).
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