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Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"
Did Vince storm into the arena that night, too?

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Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Nah. He just made the next WrestleMania main event about him and his family.

Triple H (with Stephanie) defending the title against the Rock (with Vince), Big Show (with Shane), and Mick Foley (with Linda)

To promote the show, Rock hosted Saturday Night Live with the other three making a couple appearances. Rock was such a surprise hit of a host that the next day his phone was ringing off the hook with so many people wanting to be his Hollywood agent. And so it all began.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
for many years vince got a special credit in every movie Dwayne Johnson was in for years long after he stopped wrestling regularly

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

Gavok posted:

Really cool effortpost

This is awesome. :aaaaa: Thank you!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Bogus Adventure posted:

So you're saying Dana White is gonna be the third goomba to go down?

Ask your parents about domino theory

I still love when FIGHT ISLAND was a thing and the Mortal Kombat jokes

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
climbing the mk tower to face the final boss... vince mcmaho n

im saint germain
Jan 30, 2021

i've come from the future to tell you all we have to stop party rock before it returns
They should add Jimmy Superfly Snuka to MK

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Seth Pecksniff posted:

This is awesome. :aaaaa: Thank you!

Here's part 2.

- Kurt Angle: With the Attitude Era going on, Vince was smart enough to know that a wholesome patriotic gimmick would fall flat, so he used it as a heel character, and Angle played it to perfection. Really, one of the best rookies in wrestling history, considering how quickly he picked everything up.

- Chris Jericho: Jericho was badly used in WCW and WWF knew to at least put him in segments with top talent, plus the feud with Stephanie McMahon. Unfortunately, Vince never truly believed in Jericho and always kept him no higher than the penultimate rung of the ladder. Even as the guy who beat Austin and the Rock in one night, Jericho never really looked like he was on their level. His treatment when he feuded with Kevin Owens is why Jericho got on the ground floor of AEW to begin with.

- Brock Lesnar: Vince saw this guy and immediately knew he needed to be a dominant killer. Vince wanted to build the company around him and pushed the hell out of him, but Brock grew tired of the travel and peaced out, which really broke Vince’s belief in how to push talent. When Brock returned, Vince decided that paying Brock ungodly amounts of money for minimal work was absolutely the way to go. Brock’s presence became detrimental to the product, but Vince is so into having him that he’ll give into all of his demands.

- Goldberg: Goldberg was already a huge deal when he came in, but how to handle him was a touchy concept. Obviously, you want him to be unstoppable and Vince did indeed have him thrash everyone in his way, but he’s also been criticized for handling Goldberg because he wasn’t 110% dominant. Like, Goldberg destroyed his opponents in an Elimination Chamber match and only lost due to cheating, only to win the title at the next PPV, but apparently that’s not enough. Plus Goldberg won matches that weren’t a minute long, which was considered a misstep.

When Goldberg returned years later, Vince was in full “push part-timers to the stars” mode and had no problem with having Goldberg win his matches (including title matches) in mere seconds.

- Eddie Guerrero: While his jumping to WWF was a big deal, Eddie was a midcarder who worked his way up the card. Vince saw him as a great choice as champion due to 1) the company’s transition from Attitude Era to Ruthless Aggression Era and 2) wanting to grab the latino audience. The latter part did not happen like Vince hoped and the rise of Cena, Orton, and Batista made him less interested in Eddie soon enough. Which was probably for the best, considering the title run put a lot of pressure on Eddie that probably did not help his lifespan.

- Chris Benoit: Benoit’s rise was a lot like Eddie’s, though he was always flirting with the title picture. Like Eddie, he got his title run in the sweet spot between the days of Austin and the days of Cena. Vince pulling the trigger was a moment of throwing a dog a bone before going back to the status quo and I’m sure Paul Heyman pushed like crazy to have it happen to begin with. Benoit was an afterthought after dropping the title to Orton. Hell, he was an afterthought in his own title reign!

- JBL: At the time, the company was desperate for major heels and since the “Million Dollar Man” gimmick was Vince’s self-insert, he was definitely all-in on JBL’s JR from Dallas persona. Unfortunately, JBL was on top for far too long.

- Randy Orton: Orton became a prisoner of his success. He was one of Vince’s chosen ones and got to be a main eventer for years, but at a price. As a face, he was little more than a secondary Cena. As a heel, he got stuck having to grovel for Cena for a million lovely matches. Orton would rather be putting people over or doing interesting poo poo with his persona, but he’s mostly been stuck being the same guy for years. It’s made him unmotivated to do better when he’s capable of it.

- John Cena: Once Cena skirted away from being fired, then turned face, Vince knew he was the new Hogan. He pushed the ever-loving gently caress out of him, not caring how audiences would respond. As awful as it was, Cena at least did what he could with it.

- Batista: Batista was built up long enough and his big title win was perfectly booked. Then Vince became too dependent on making him the top guy on whichever show didn’t have Cena. Batista was still popular, but lost a lot of his edge, stuck in a lengthy stretch where he was either champion, challenging the champion, or injured. Nothing else. It said a lot that Batista’s best character work was during the final months of his initial run with the company, where he turned heel and started showing all sorts of personality.

- Edge: Edge is one of those wrestling chameleons who is able to adapt to the changing landscape and evolve. He had reached the point where he was ready to break into the main event, but needed the right opportunity. With Money in the Bank introduced, he was the perfect choice of someone to win and cheap his way into becoming the champion. Vince had been high on him ever since to the point that when Vince watched Dark Knight, he insisted on pushing Edge as a hybrid of Joker and Two-Face. It was something.

After Edge came back from retirement, Vince has overestimated Edge’s status as a legend and played up his so-called fantastic workrate. He can go, but he’s no Bret Hart.

- Rey Mysterio: Poor Mysterio. He won the Royal Rumble out of tribute to Eddie Guerrero. He wasn’t even penciled in to win the World Heavyweight Championship at WrestleMania, but eventually Vince went with it. He definitely wouldn’t have won if it wasn’t for the WHC being the secondary world title at the time. Then Mysterio had one of the worst title runs in wrestling history. When he became WWE Champion down the line, he lost the belt the same night in an absolutely bullshit match against Cena. Guy never had a chance.

- Rob Van Dam: RVD was a breakout star in the InVasion angle, but Vince didn’t truly buy into him until he realized how much money ECW was worth (the ECW DVD was doing huge numbers). To build up the new WWECW brand, RVD beat Cena for the title, but any longevity of being in Vince’s good graces went out of the window once he got pulled over and caught with drugs.

- King Booker: Booker T was so close to becoming champion at WrestleMania 19, but Triple H hosed him over in such a way that the whole angle comes off as gross and uncomfortable. By the time Booker T became a champion, he came off as little more than a comedy midcarder who lucked into facing jobber champion Rey Mysterio. Shortly after his reign, he was buried again by Triple H. As champion, he was a non-factor, but he was at least entertaining.

- Great Khali: While Vince loves himself some immobile giants, Khali only became champion out of necessity. Edge was injured and they held a battle royal to crown a new World Heavyweight Champion. They wanted Batista to chase the title, so that left either Kane, Finlay, or Khali. Khali won and proceeded to poo poo up the ring as champ for a couple months. Once his mystique was gone, he became a comedy act for the rest of his career.

- CM Punk: For a time, CM Punk was the poster boy for somebody becoming a top guy in spite of Vince’s behavior. Being a beloved indie name was a death sentence and somehow Punk survived a cursed title reign to have a couple more chances and jump on the opportunities necessary to ascend higher. Unfortunately, it wasn’t good enough as Punk really just wanted a WrestleMania main event and when Vince was more interested in giving that to a returning Batista, Punk’s patience had run out.

Plus all the injuries and stuff too.

- Jeff Hardy: Vince really only saw Jeff Hardy as a tag team or midcard act, but in the late 00s, his popularity could not be ignored. Jeff became champ, but never fully adjusted to the spot. He had a killer feud with CM Punk, but once he took a sabbatical from the company and IMMEDIATELY got caught with all the drugs in the world, that was it for any chance he had of being in the main event again.

- Sheamus: Sheamus was in a weird spot initially. Vince absolutely saw him as a major star and made him champion quickly, but Vince did not want to sacrifice Cena in any tangible way. Sheamus won the title via a fluke and never got a true win over Cena that meant anything. At the same time, Cena never got to absolutely and decisively destroy Sheamus like he did everyone else.

Sheamus would eventually get pushed as Player 2 Cena and the company was a bit too adamant about him at times. Most memorably, when the guys making the video games wanted CM Punk to be on the cover of WWE ’13 and WWE told them, “No, you want Sheamus!” Sheamus was so half-assed in the way he won titles and major matches (ie. Royal Rumble) that seeing his accomplishments listed makes it all sound so unimportant and worthless.

- Jack Swagger: Vince probably did not care about WWECW, so I imagine he had little to do with Jack Swagger’s initial push and personality, which gave him a solid ECW Championship run. On the main roster, Swagger won Money in the Bank and cashed in days later, which could have been a big deal. Unfortunately, Chris Jericho had reinvented himself as a serious, suit-wearing heel and Vince decided that Swagger should do the exact same thing. Swagger lost all of his personality, had a title reign that rivaled Mysterio’s, and became a jobber for most of his run afterwards.

I'll go into the 2010s and 2020s next time to finish this off.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"
I always liked Eddie's pairing with Chyna and the "Mamacita" gimmick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbYRPEhuF4E

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

climbing the mk tower to face the final boss... vince mcmaho n

Vince is nothing if not literally the final boss of wrestling

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Bogus Adventure posted:

I always liked Eddie's pairing with Chyna and the "Mamacita" gimmick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbYRPEhuF4E

Honestly might be the high point of both their careers. They were fuckin' great together.

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

Big Boss Man drives around with a casket

I have a terrible sense of deja vu.

And I honestly think all of Vince's big success happened in spite of him rather than because of him. If he didn't have his legit insane man work ethic, he probably would have bombed out a dozen times over the decades.

Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Aug 3, 2023

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Vandar posted:

Honestly might be the high point of both their careers. They were fuckin' great together.

:agreed:

It was a great gimmick, and you could see they were both having fun with it.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


Chyna would make a fascinating subject for an effort post. I’ll never forget when my friend scored a bootleg copy of her infamous porn tape…

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Cartoon Man posted:

Chyna would make a fascinating subject for an effort post. I’ll never forget when my friend scored a bootleg copy of her infamous porn tape…

There's a front page article on that. Which might be the joke.

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

Bogus Adventure posted:

:agreed:

It was a great gimmick, and you could see they were both having fun with it.



God this was good poo poo. Both of them kicked so much rear end back then.

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

just realized they match hairstyles

MD2020
May 30, 2003

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Gavok posted:



To promote the show, Rock hosted Saturday Night Live with the other three making a couple appearances. Rock was such a surprise hit of a host that the next day his phone was ringing off the hook with so many people wanting to be his Hollywood agent. And so it all began.

Meatsa-ballas!

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Literally A Person posted:

God this was good poo poo. Both of them kicked so much rear end back then.

I just love how Eddie is bouncing around while Chyna is struggling not to break her stoic character and start laughing



Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe
You guys are making me miss Eddie all over again. gently caress, he was a hell of a performer with enough charisma to even make anyone working with him shine.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Cartoon Man posted:

Chyna would make a fascinating subject for an effort post. I’ll never forget when my friend scored a bootleg copy of her infamous porn tape…

I'd write it, but I don't think I can bring myself to do it. Her story is just so depressingly sad; basically everything that could go wrong for her did go wrong, between abusive parents / step-parents, being sexually assaulted by a teacher in middle school and getting raped in college, developing severe drug and alcohol addictions, being pressured into getting tons of cosmetic surgery, romantic partners who treated her like utter poo poo (Triple H and X-Pac, notably), falling into a cult (she became a Mormon in her later years), having her money horribly mis-managed by her dad, and ultimately dying from an overdose of all the drugs. :smith:

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
And then WWE refused to even mention her name for years because “she did porn” while Sean Waltman has three rings despite being in one of those porn videos with her.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


Timby posted:

I'd write it, but I don't think I can bring myself to do it. Her story is just so depressingly sad; basically everything that could go wrong for her did go wrong, between abusive parents / step-parents, being sexually assaulted by a teacher in middle school and getting raped in college, developing severe drug and alcohol addictions, being pressured into getting tons of cosmetic surgery, romantic partners who treated her like utter poo poo (Triple H and X-Pac, notably), falling into a cult (she became a Mormon in her later years), having her money horribly mis-managed by her dad, and ultimately dying from an overdose of all the drugs. :smith:

What the gently caress

:smith:

Dr.Smasher
Nov 27, 2002

Cyberpunk 1987

Cartoon Man posted:

What the gently caress

:smith:

The real icing on the cake is that her passing was completely overshadowed by Prince's death the next day.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Evo weekend kept me distracted, but here's the rest of my list on Vince's interest or lack of former champions.

- The Miz: The Miz has spent years and years working his rear end off to be aggressively fine. He’s just okay, but he puts in the effort. Every now and then, Vince pays him for his WWE loyalty by throwing him into the title picture, but as a midcarder who has somehow finagled his way into the main event. That his initial rise to the top had him constantly cross paths with Cena did not help his standing.

- Christian: This reign hurt. WWE always treated Christian as “Edge but not as good” and once Edge had to retire, they had Christian honor his friend by becoming World Heavyweight Champion. Then he dropped it at the very next SmackDown taping to Randy Orton, who had just joined that show’s roster. The aftermath, while it did lead to some fun matches, still solidified how blatant the company wanted to push certain talents over others.

- Alberto Del Rio: Vince knew what he was doing with Del Rio. He saw a masked luchador face and told him he would be better as an unmasked heel. Unfortunately, this was when Vince was starting to lose sight on what he wanted to do with the talent he was actually behind. Del Rio won the Royal Rumble, but in one of the most subdued ways ever (only the final elimination was memorable), lost badly at WrestleMania to open the show, and by the time he became champion, it was completely overshadowed. Del Rio soon became a toy that Vince no longer cared to play with.

- Mark Henry: Henry’s career is fascinating. An immobile Olympic weightlifter was given a 10-year contract for a millions of dollars, but it was soon apparent that he couldn’t work. The company tried to embarrass him into leaving, but he stuck with it. Then they re-signed him after the 10-year mark due to injuries on the roster. Eventually, everything started to click with Henry and he became this endlessly entertaining wrecking machine. Then they had him absolutely annihilate Randy Orton for the World Heavyweight Championship and look dominant against any and all challengers. The Hall of Pain era was loving awesome before injuries slowed him down.

- Daniel Bryan: The poster boy for Vince being against a talent despite everyone from the fans to the locker room being completely behind him. You can talk about the “18 seconds” match and WrestleMania 30, but the best way to explain Bryan’s WWE run is his start in NXT, where he lost every single match they put him in while the Pros constantly voted him as being the best guy on the show. Vince grew to respect him, but drat did he have it in for the tiny vegan who was popular in the indies.

- Dolph Ziggler: Ziggler, like Christian, is another midcarder who was never really supposed to do more than flirt with the main event for the sake of losing. He did have a great Money in the Bank cash-in, but then suffered a concussion and his title reign suffered. After that, Vince never saw anything in him. Most damning was when Roman Reigns was out on injury and was supposed to have this major, heroic role in a big Survivor Series match. Ziggler was plugged into that spot and despite him singlehandedly going through various wrestlers to win for his team, the company instead focused on John Cena (the team captain) and Sting (debuting to keep Triple H from cheating) as the real heroes while doing absolutely nothing with Ziggler.

- Seth Rollins: With the whole Shield thing, it was initially set up as two indie wrestlers helping a less experienced chosen one get over. Fortunately, the two were still able to make an impact and Rollins found a strong role as Roman’s foil. He was definitely someone that Triple H saw a lot in and was completely behind, even if that meant Rollins looking like a total dweeb as champion sometimes. Going from decisively winning a feud against Brock Lesnar to peeing his pants over the Fiend within a month was quite a ride.

Ever-evolving, Rollins has his spot with the “give somebody else a title since Roman’s barely doing anything with his” championship due to being a great wrestler and being a total kiss-rear end to the brand. Like, talk about how great your company is, sure, but some of the stuff he’s talked about (saying Jon Moxley is taking food off his table by being in AEW) is laughable.

- Roman Reigns: This one just goes without saying. From day one, he was Vince’s choice to be Cena’s replacement. He forced Roman down everyone’s throats for years despite Roman not really being ready most of the time. Then when Roman FINALLY turned heel, they found gold and have been sitting on that title run for years for the sake of having him break all sorts of records. WWE fans can’t get enough of it.

- Dean Ambrose: In the end, Ambrose felt like the third wheel of the Shield post-break-up, but he did have Vince in his corner. The problem was that Vince had a very specific idea of who Ambrose was supposed to be. Rather than being a no-nonsense, brutal psycho, Vince wanted him to essentially be the Cesar Romero Joker. He wanted him to be squeezing ketchup into people’s faces and talking to plants like they were his best friend. His late-era heel turn was even worse (wearing a gasmask because fans are stinky) and Ambrose made sure to get out when the getting was good and have the wrestling run he wanted in NJPW and AEW.

- Finn Balor: When the Universal Championship was created, Vince had a moment of open-mindedness where he decided to do things Triple H’s way. Vince admitted that Finn was not the kind of wrestler he was interested in, but Triple H convinced him that there was definitely a fanbase that he appealed to. And so, Finn defeated Roman Reigns (punished for a drug violation) before defeating Seth Rollins at SummerSlam. At SummerSlam, he injured his shoulder and had to give up the title the next day. Vince lost all faith in him and Finn’s attempts at entering the title picture have all ended embarrassingly.

- Kevin Owens: Vince seems to have always taken a shine to Kevin Owens. He let the guy headbutt him into a concussion one time. Owens became Universal Champion after the Finn Balor incident (Finncident?) and had a lengthy run on top until Vince realized that he could throw this popular storyline to the wayside in order to make a returning Goldberg champ. Other than a sad run as Braun Strowman’s bitch, Owens has at least had a respectable run. While he’s yet to ever be champion again, he has been treated as a viable contender, has main-evented WrestleMania in Steve Austin’s return match, and was given a dumptruck full of money to re-sign and not go to AEW.

- AJ Styles: At first glance, AJ Styles was going to be another wrestler from elsewhere who was going to be treated as an example. Then Vince saw how popular Styles was and decided to do the right thing and capitalize on him instead of burying him. Styles got to have a decisive win over John Cena and a respectable run as WWE Champion. After losing that, he’s just kind of been there.

- Bray Wyatt: The idea in Vince’s mind was that Bray Wyatt was going to be the next Undertaker. Vince just did not remember that the Undertaker succeeded for so long because he rarely lost and when he did, it was treated like a big deal. Undertaker’s feud with Hogan did not end with Undertaker humiliated. Bray’s feud with Cena certainly did.

It’s hard to pinpoint how much of Bray’s bad booking is Bray and how much is Vince. Like doing a title match at WrestleMania against Randy Orton where roaches and maggots are projected onto the mat. Bray probably thought that was a cool idea. When he became the Fiend, he was such a popular act that Vince knew to put the title on him ASAP. The problem was that the Fiend was written as being TOO invincible and while the original plan was for him to face Roman at WrestleMania, Vince changed his mind and just had Goldberg squash Fiend for the title at one of the Saudi PPVs so he could have Roman vs. Goldberg happen instead.

Bray’s Fiend concepts started to get a little too outrageous and Vince’s constant meddling caused Bray to react in a way that made him unpopular to the top brass. He was fired for a time, came back when Triple H was in charge, then did very little, before being taken off TV.

- Jinder Mahal: Vince pushed a total jobber because he was of Indian descent and he figured they could make some serious money in India. Jinder was not ready for this and his run was completely lovely. It took Brock Lesnar telling Vince to have Jinder drop the title to AJ Styles so that the Raw Champ vs. SmackDown Champ match at Survivor Series wasn’t loving laughable. When they ended up doing a show in India, Jinder’s spot was to lose to Triple H. Just a total disaster.

- Kofi Kingston: Mustafa Ali was going to get a sudden title shot, but he got injured so they put Kofi Kingston into the spot. The New Day was always a popular group, but they were never that successful as singles wrestlers. The crowd was ravenous for Kofi to win the title and Vince put himself in the storyline as an authority figure who didn’t think Kofi was deserving, which had a very unnecessary racist tint to it. Kofi won at WrestleMania, defended for a few months, and when it was time to debut SmackDown on Fox, he lost to Brock Lesnar in mere seconds and Vince washed his hands of Kofi ever being considered champion material ever again.

- Drew McIntyre: Drew started off as a forgettable guy who was deemed Vince’s “chosen one” in-story. Outside of some midcard gold, it led to nowhere and he eventually joined comedy jobber trio Three Man Band. He left the company, became big in the indies, returned to the company, became NXT Champion, and eventually made it back to the main roster. He was treated as a fairly major threat and was starting to naturally get over as a top face. In the 2020 Rumble, where Brock entered at #1 despite being champion, Drew eliminated him. Vince considered having somebody else win the match, but decided against it and fully committed to Drew’s push by having him win the Rumble.

Drew defeated Brock at the empty COVID WrestleMania. He appeared to be the top face the company needed in this dire time, especially with Roman having walked out. Once Roman returned and his endless title run became a thing, Vince stopped caring about Drew. He was built up as one of the initial “this guy should absolutely win” contenders against Roman, but lost regardless. While he’s been having strong matches on the roster, it’s rumored that Drew is waiting for his contract to end.

- Braun Strowman: Vince wanted Braun to be a big deal, but was very, very wary of making him champion. It was weird because he was everything Vince wanted in a wrestler and the fans loving LOVED the guy for a time. Even though he got to thrash Roman every now and then, it was apparent that Braun was secondary to the Big Dog and only existed as an understudy. For example, once Roman walked out of the company prior to WrestleMania, they simply had Braun wrestle Goldberg and beat him for the title. He had a nothing title reign, lost to a returning Roman, and that was it for him. He got fired during the COVID era because Nick Khan saw him as being paid way too much. He came back eventually, but is no longer seen as the top tier monster he once was.

- Bobby Lashley: Back in 2005, rookie wrestler Bobby Lashley was backstage at SmackDown and Vince randomly saw him hanging out. Vince did not know or care that Lashley was too green for TV and demanded he go wrestle. Vince was all for Lashley to get a monster push to the point that the one and only WWECW PPV was built around Lashley winning the ECW title, Lashley would later get used as the face wrestler in the infamous Vince vs. Trump WrestleMania match, and Lashley would even feud with Vince for a time. Shortly after, Lashley left the company, feeling uncomfortable with certain backstage officials, and Vince felt betrayed. For a while, he refused to ever give a 100% push to someone he’d want as top talent.

Having gotten better in-ring experience in TNA and elsewhere, Lashley returned eventually. He got stuck in some stupid storylines, but gradually regained Vince’s interest. He especially struck gold with the faction Hurt Business. As the Money in the Bank storyline around that time ended with Miz becoming a chickenshit WWE Champion, Lashley was able to pick up the pieces by beating Miz and starting a rather dominant run that ultimately netted him Lashley’s dream match: Brock Lesnar. Unfortunately, this feud was a cog in the machine to make the following WrestleMania a Roman/Brock champ vs. champ situation and Lashley was no longer needed.

- Big E: Despite his popularity, charisma, and muscles, Big E’s big problem was that he is comparatively short for a WWE wrestler. That’s why Vince never saw him as more than a tag wrestler. Big E did win Money in the Bank and the company made sure to have him tweet before Raw that he intended to cash in his briefcase. Big E became WWE Champion and proceeded to have a terrible run that had him lose decisively to Universal Champion Roman Reigns and later Brock Lesnar.

Sadly, any chance of Big E regaining steam during the era when Vince was out of the company was struck down when he suffered a major neck injury during a match. One that appears to be career-ending at this point.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
lol WWE champion Jinder Mahel

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
Don’t hinder my Jinder.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
all roads lead to jobbing to brock lesnar and losing your title

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"
Regina George, but she's saying, "Vince, stop trying to make Jinder happen. He's not going to happen."

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Another thing about the 'work hoarder' mentioned above that's way too fitting is a tendency for control freak managers to get bored and use their job as a source of entertainment, hence the comparisons to Vince using wrestlers like action figures and loving around with things just to be Doing Something, and neglecting and forgetting about things that don't catch his personal interest no matter how successful they are.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


https://i.imgur.com/Ktysqfk.gifv

Capital Letdown
Oct 5, 2006
i still cant fix red text avs someone tell me the bbcode for that im an admin and dont know this lmao

What is sign culture like at a WWE show(particularly a tv filmed one) these days? I was watching some old youtube clips of Attitude era and the signs would be poo poo with slurs on them! Stuff like uhhh 'X-Pac is a f**'.

Absolutely wild to me that it used to be like that, and it just got me wondering if it's still bad or if they check them somehow?

Hirez
Feb 3, 2003

Weber scored 49 points?

:allears: :allears: :allears:

Hirez
Feb 3, 2003

Weber scored 49 points?

:allears: :allears: :allears:
It's nowhere near the attitude era, where you weren't permitted in unless you had a sign.

They're mostly about video game poo poo because gamers gotta game, and botchamania dedicating 20mins each episode posting the stupid things.


occasionally there's a god one though, like after brawl out and the sammy/andrade punching:





nothing will ever top this, so why even bother unless it's good

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
I've always liked when someone has like a giant John Cena head that occasionally rises in the background during a match.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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Capital Letdown posted:

What is sign culture like at a WWE show(particularly a tv filmed one) these days? I was watching some old youtube clips of Attitude era and the signs would be poo poo with slurs on them! Stuff like uhhh 'X-Pac is a f**'.

Absolutely wild to me that it used to be like that, and it just got me wondering if it's still bad or if they check them somehow?

Not to excuse it at all but that word was really common during that era, it was considered like a pg13 rude word at best. Back in the 80s it was even used in pg comedies! Pretty hosed.

Capital Letdown
Oct 5, 2006
i still cant fix red text avs someone tell me the bbcode for that im an admin and dont know this lmao

Baron von Eevl posted:

Not to excuse it at all but that word was really common during that era, it was considered like a pg13 rude word at best. Back in the 80s it was even used in pg comedies! Pretty hosed.

Oh definitely I understand that. Im just wondering if WWE made a shift away from them, and if so how did they do it? Was there a painful period where security guards had to confiscate way more signs than normal til people got the message?

(I understand these questions may not have answers, just a thought I was wondering about)

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

i do not have enough words in 1980s pg-13 to express how much the attitude era sucks

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


Capital Letdown posted:

Oh definitely I understand that. Im just wondering if WWE made a shift away from them, and if so how did they do it? Was there a painful period where security guards had to confiscate way more signs than normal til people got the message?

(I understand these questions may not have answers, just a thought I was wondering about)

I think people just quit bringing signs. Not only was WWE bleeding fans in the mid-2000s, but younger people were getting less interested in TV in general.

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Prof. Crocodile
Jun 27, 2020


Disgusting

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