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DeadlyMuffin
Jul 3, 2007

poemdexter posted:

You're disrespecting a former future US army soldier!

Bubs would never join the army.

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Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

PT6A posted:

Anyone who doesn't have at least a bit of sympathy toward this message hasn't dealt with a certain generation of white South African. I do try to avoid generalizations, but holy gently caress that is a dire group. The worst example I've encountered told me he came to Canada "because the n*****s beat [him] and took his farm emerald mine" and now bitches that the Canadian government is a bunch of Nazis who won't let him spread Reformed Christianity to children in his position as a school bus driver.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/PabloReports/status/1686872335318417408

Historic images of an old atrocity

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Strong Ted Cruz energy on that guy on the right

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Stage right is "Disdainful" Gene Oakerlund, father of WWE Hall-of-Famer "Mean" Gene Oakerlund.

ED. Dad as Eugene is funnier in my head, but the simplicity of what I first typed is what I come back to. It's what keeps me hitting Edit...not Quote.

SpeakSlow fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Aug 3, 2023

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
https://twitter.com/ComradeSnake/status/1686876282561150976?t=IPdGP5XfJV1FmEYiZ4YV1g&s=19

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

https://twitter.com/the_vello/status/1687108420305113090?s=46&t=6HOSYVrXffESMo0NlyR0Lg

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1687501553689616385

N.noo it's supposed to hurt YOUR feelings!!

GPTribefan
Jul 2, 2007
Something witty yet inspirational about the Cleveland Indians

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1687501553689616385

N.noo it's supposed to hurt YOUR feelings!!

There’s a lot to unpack here but they don’t honestly think that Joe Biden is personally trying to imprison Donald Trump, do they? Please say no. Please?

Also, that clip is pretty much that dril tweet in video form.

Hardcastlemccormik
Jul 19, 2022

GPTribefan posted:

There’s a lot to unpack here but they don’t honestly think that Joe Biden is personally trying to imprison Donald Trump, do they? Please say no. Please?

Also, that clip is pretty much that dril tweet in video form.

Of course they do. Everything is either Biden or the shadowy conspiracy (Jews) that controls Biden and everything else. Same with Obama.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

GPTribefan posted:

There’s a lot to unpack here but they don’t honestly think that Joe Biden is personally trying to imprison Donald Trump, do they? Please say no. Please?

Also, that clip is pretty much that dril tweet in video form.

It's had to differentiate between the ones who actually believe it, and those who are just rolling with the storyline that the suits upstairs have come up with.

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1687501553689616385

N.noo it's supposed to hurt YOUR feelings!!

Purgatory Glory
Feb 20, 2005

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1687501553689616385

N.noo it's supposed to hurt YOUR feelings!!

Yeah... Biden is known for wearing diapers... Projection.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

GPTribefan posted:

There’s a lot to unpack here but they don’t honestly think that Joe Biden is personally trying to imprison Donald Trump, do they? Please say no. Please?

They absolutely 100% believe that. In part because they think that Biden is worried he can't beat him in another election.

And tbh maybe he can't

But I'd conservatively estimate that at least 3/4 of registered Republicans definitely think that Biden is doing exactly what you said. No loving question about it. Just pop on Sean Hannity for 3 minutes.

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Aug 5, 2023

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

why do those groomer hunters have constant fantasies of kid loving :raise:

GPTribefan
Jul 2, 2007
Something witty yet inspirational about the Cleveland Indians

Ruffian Price posted:

why do those groomer hunters have constant fantasies of kid loving :raise:

They’re seriously obsessed with kid loving. It’s all they talk about. Everyone around them is constantly trying to touch or molest or gently caress children in their eyes, and they have to be on constant alert to protect them.

But just the white ones.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
I think their accusations are confessions for the most part

MeinPanzer
Dec 20, 2004
anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts
“Every Q freak is a secret pedophile projecting onto others!” is to the 2020s what “every homophobe is a closeted homosexual that hates themselves” was to the 2000s.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

MeinPanzer posted:

“Every Q freak is a secret pedophile projecting onto others!” is to the 2020s what “every homophobe is a closeted homosexual that hates themselves” was to the 2000s.

We are talking about a group of people who largely agree with Dennis Prager(I think) that the only reason they aren't stealing, raping, murdering, and generally living a life of sadistic horror is that their god says not to. At any point in time, the only thing keeping their sickest, most hosed up, thoughts from turning into action is that God is watching them , and Jesus is taking notes.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I've always thought it was pretty telling that a lot of religious people basically assert that they'd love to rape, murder and steal - hell, we all would, guys - but only the threat of punishment by a divine unseen entity is what keeps us all from being lawless savages. Not a learned empathy for fellow human beings born out of experiencing cruelty ourselves or seeing people we love hurt by bad things. Nothing like that, created from the shared human experience.

Nope. Just the threat of eternal damnation and an eternal burning fate worse than any death penalty. Mixed with a little bit of "and if you're a good person, you'll be rewarded with eternal paradise after you die!

This is the only reason I haven't killed a rich family and robbed them, you see.

Harvey Mantaco
Mar 6, 2007

Someone please help me find my keys =(
Yeah I don't think all those Q people want to molest kids, I think they're just completely dominated by conspiracy theories and propaganda. He who smelt it dealt it doesn't really hold up and kind of obfuscates the issue, unchecked fascist messaging in an arms race of opportunists that we're powerless to control.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

MeinPanzer posted:

“Every Q freak is a secret pedophile projecting onto others!” is to the 2020s what “every homophobe is a closeted homosexual that hates themselves” was to the 2000s.

e: nm, it's too early for me to post and I'm not sure I read this right

Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Aug 5, 2023

MeinPanzer
Dec 20, 2004
anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts

Harvey Mantaco posted:

Yeah I don't think all those Q people want to molest kids, I think they're just completely dominated by conspiracy theories and propaganda. He who smelt it dealt it doesn't really hold up and kind of obfuscates the issue, unchecked fascist messaging in an arms race of opportunists that we're powerless to control.

Exactly. There are some hardcore and particularly vocal Q people who are actually projecting pedophiles (see that guy featured in This Place Rules, for example), but claiming that everyone who evangelizes about the Sound of Freedom or whatever is a secret pedophile is dumb and counterproductive. It's not just on its face implausible; it actually makes it difficult to understand and to push back against this phenomenon, which is way more complex than that.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Yeah but then you have things like "the guy who funded the child trafficking Qanon movie is a child trafficker"



I never liked the "homophobes are secretly gays" because that tacitly buys into the "it's bad to be gay" thing, and a lot of people are just hateful pieces of poo poo and don't need to be struggling with secret desires for that to be true. It's not the case with child predators, because it IS bad to be that, and maybe it's just some media coverage thing but all these "political operative/official/pundit/etc. revealed as child predator" stories involve conservatives. Pedocon theory, you see.

Closeted ashamed homophobe can have a happy outcome when that person travels the road that results in them being openly gay and living authentically, but that's not a possible outcome for a pedophile so I can see how on balance you'd have more secret pedos in the insane militant anti-child trafficking movement than more secret gays in the insane militant anti-gay movement.

zoux fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Aug 5, 2023

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
It's not "haha everyone who gets sucked into the sound of freedom nonsense are blood gargling child trafficking pedophiles," it's that the people pushing this stuff are doing it under the guise of "protect the children" when everything they attempt to do makes children less safe and in fact pushes them into the arms of pastors, weird uncles, and other assorted actual groomers who largely aren't members of the lgbtq community.

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010
A lot of these “anti-pedo” right wingers don’t see male to underage female relationships as pedophillia. They are, in many cases, explicitly exempting that behavior.

“The problem isn’t that they priests are loving children, it’s that they are loving boy children”

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Murgos posted:

A lot of these “anti-pedo” right wingers don’t see male to underage female relationships as pedophillia. They are, in many cases, explicitly exempting that behavior.

“The problem isn’t that they priests are loving children, it’s that they are loving boy children”

Might be time for the majority of US states to get their poo poo together about age of consent laws, because in the majority of states it's 16.

MeinPanzer
Dec 20, 2004
anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts

quote:

Yeah but then you have things like "the guy who funded the child trafficking Qanon movie is a child trafficker"... Closeted ashamed homophobe can have a happy outcome when that person travels the road that results in them being openly gay and living authentically, but that's not a possible outcome for a pedophile so I can see how on balance you'd have more secret pedos in the insane militant anti-child trafficking movement than more secret gays in the insane militant anti-gay movement.

Sorry but you need to apply some critical thinking to this evaluation, which is reductionist and unhelpful because it just dismisses all Q types as projecting pedophiles and obscures a lot of the very real and complex dynamics that have influenced this development. According to a February 2022 survey, 22% of Americans "believe that a “storm” is coming," while 16% "hold that the government, media and financial worlds are controlled by Satan-worshipping pedophiles" (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/23/qanon-believers-increased-america-study-finds). Do you think every one of those people is a pedophile?

Again, there are some prominent people in the movement who are undoubtedly projecting pedophiles, but that is not the vast majority of Q proponents. You do yourself a disservice by subscribing to such a simplistic perspective.

Professor Beetus posted:

It's not "haha everyone who gets sucked into the sound of freedom nonsense are blood gargling child trafficking pedophiles," it's that the people pushing this stuff are doing it under the guise of "protect the children" when everything they attempt to do makes children less safe and in fact pushes them into the arms of pastors, weird uncles, and other assorted actual groomers who largely aren't members of the lgbtq community.

I don't disagree, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm criticizing this attitude:

quote:

why do those groomer hunters have constant fantasies of kid loving :raise:

quote:

I think their accusations are confessions for the most part

AvesPKS
Sep 26, 2004

I don't dance unless I'm totally wasted.
It would be very convenient for the narrative if that guy was a major backer of the movie but he's not, right? He's 1 crowd funder out of 6000. Probably more useful to focus on the flaws of the founder and participants and methodology of OAR (That Was a Crazy Game of Poker) at this point.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/1687897806906732544

To be fair to the cop, Pomeranians make an extremely small target

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
Lotta people gonna look real stupid once they, like that deputy clearly did, watch the documentary, Blade 3. A truly terrifying breed.

Nebrilos
Oct 9, 2012
Do police just get a kick out of murdering dogs? Does it make them feel powerful?

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
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Nebrilos posted:

Do police just get a kick out of murdering dogs? Does it make them feel powerful?

We've spent decades training them that everyone is out to get them, that death lurks around every corner, and every day is a fight to come home alive. Is it any surprise that they're trigger happy and jumpy? Especially since the only whiff of anything even approaching consequences for their actions has come in the last couple years.

Which is aside from the nature of the job naturally holding appeal for psychos and bullies.

Lager
Mar 9, 2004

Give me the secret to the anti-puppet equation!

https://www.today.com/food/trump-supporter-leaves-450-tip-busboys-poets-t107498


Today Show posted:

Man gives server $450 tip — and a touching message of unity
Rosalynd Harris, a server at Busboys and Poets in Washington, D.C., was shocked when she got a $450 tip.

It's not every day Rosalynd Harris gets a $450 tip at the cafe where she works, but this week, that's exactly what happened — and you'll love the reason why.

Jason White, a dentist from Lubbock, Texas, was in Washington, D.C., celebrating President Donald Trump's inauguration, and on Monday, he and his friends decided to grab lunch at Busboys and Poets, a restaurant known for promoting political activism, before catching their flight home. Harris, 25, was working that day.

Surrounded by artwork depicting famous black leaders and fellow customers in Women’s March pins and shirts, White worried that he and his friends, one of whom was wearing a red “Make America Great Again” hat, might not be welcome.

"We started getting looks," White, 37, told TODAY. "I told my friend, you need to take your hat off. I don't want people to think we're coming in here to flaunt our Trump stuff. We're just coming here to have lunch."

But Harris, a dancer who works at the cafe part time, assuaged his worries when she approached their table with a big smile.

"She started laughing when we said we were from West Texas and she said, 'I can tell you're from the South,'" White said. "I said, 'What's your favorite thing on the menu?' She said the avocado panini is delicious, and I love avocado, so I got that... It was a relief for both of us. This was just lunch."


He added, "We interacted like regular human beings, not white, not black, not Trump supporter, not black waitress."

On his way out, White signed his receipt, leaving Harris a $450 tip on the $72.60 tab, in honor of Trump, the 45th president. He also wrote her a note: "We may come from different cultures and may disagree on certain issues, but if everyone would share their smile and kindness like you... our country will come together as one people."

Harris was surprised. "It was all intense," she told TODAY. "The note was extremely touching and unexpected, and then of course the biggest part was definitely the amount of the tip he left."

She called their interaction "a beautiful story," and added that it's not all about race.

"This is being taken as a black-and-white situation, and it was more two people having an authentic moment," she said.

Their story went viral after Busboys and Poets shared the receipt on Twitter.

“I’m extremely humbled by all of this,” White said. “It’s not about me and her… I just want people to take the example, and stop and think a little bit before they judge people — on all sides.”


So this story has popped up again on some clickbait sites and ads over the past few days while I was reading unrelated news articles. I vaguely remembered this from 2017, when the media fell all over themselves to cover the selfless act of this honorable deplorable and how this relatively big tip was surely going to heal the country. I got curious and wanted to see whether the guy was a January 6th protestor or anything and, uh...

https://www.everythinglubbock.com/n...-underage-boys/


Lubbock local news posted:

Dentist Jason White sentenced to 30 years for making child pornography as he sexually abused underage boys

Lager fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Aug 6, 2023

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Nebrilos posted:

Do police just get a kick out of murdering dogs? Does it make them feel powerful?

yes

yes

hth

https://aldf.org/project/dogs-shot-by-cops/

there are actually resources for stuff like this which feels even worse because it really is constant and systemic

i say swears online fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Aug 6, 2023

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/1687897806906732544

To be fair to the cop, Pomeranians make an extremely small target

all you need now is for her to get arrested and held without medical treatment while they compel her to make statements indemnifying the officer (while the cops go back and shoot the dog correctly this time) and you have Full Cop

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Staluigi posted:

all you need now is for her to get arrested and held without medical treatment while they compel her to make statements indemnifying the officer (while the cops go back and shoot the dog correctly this time) and you have Full Cop

Nah, she's white, so they still have a ways to go before the trough is completely full

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
She still has the bullet in her leg ONE YEAR after it happened.

The Artificial Kid
Feb 22, 2002
Plibble

MeinPanzer posted:

Exactly. There are some hardcore and particularly vocal Q people who are actually projecting pedophiles (see that guy featured in This Place Rules, for example), but claiming that everyone who evangelizes about the Sound of Freedom or whatever is a secret pedophile is dumb and counterproductive. It's not just on its face implausible; it actually makes it difficult to understand and to push back against this phenomenon, which is way more complex than that.

Yeah it’s important that we not falsely imply that Q grifters and Q cultists are perverted or engaged in child molestation. The majority are simply engaged in a purely good faith effort to prove that the Democratic Party is a gigantic child sacrifice engine grafted onto a communist conspiracy.

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KORNOLOGY
Aug 9, 2006

happyhippy posted:

She still has the bullet in her leg ONE YEAR after it happened.

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