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So when we inevitably ponder the rock: Are you going to do the next mission legit or just lol Zeratul it? e: UPDATE ON LAST PAGE
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Aug 6, 2023 03:26
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I love how the commercial subtly spoils a future unit, and in a way that should be impossible.
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Aug 6, 2023 03:41
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I voted to go with Dr. Hanson's mission. As much as I agree with others that the sooner we get the Zeratul missions over with the better, I think it's a good idea to take a break from them for at least one mission. Might as well unlock a neat unit while we're at it.
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Aug 6, 2023 03:42
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The Hercules has a few missions, particularly The Moebius Factor where it's really fun to use on higher difficulties. It's also really rad in the Moebius mod where it can land and then produce units like a structure.
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Aug 6, 2023 04:13
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Is the Predator even all that exceptional at what it does, considering you’ve almost definitely got at least a couple of units/defense structures that already fill the “slaughter zerglings” niche by this point in the campaign?
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Aug 6, 2023 04:20
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Predator is the emperor of meme units in SC2
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Aug 6, 2023 04:22
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Keep on ponderin
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Aug 6, 2023 04:22
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Voting Breakout, it's just fun.
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Aug 6, 2023 04:56
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Should have gotten predator because aww kitty
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Aug 6, 2023 05:04
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Regalingualius posted:Is the Predator even all that exceptional at what it does, considering you’ve almost definitely got at least a couple of units/defense structures that already fill the “slaughter zerglings” niche by this point in the campaign? The Predator is... decent at its niche. It deals 15 (+2) damage with an additional 20 damage splash so it kills swarms in two hits and whatever 'ling it directly targets in one, and unlike the other anti-Zergling units like Hellions and Firebats it does that with no conditional damage so it can actually hurt non-Light targets. The problem is that you're paying 100/100 and 3 supply for a mechanical melee unit with 140 HP and 1 base armor, which is less durability than a Zealot. So they'll run up, take a bunch of damage, then can't even be patched up by a Medic so you'll have to burn even more money on repairs. For an additional 50/25 you can get a Siege Tank instead and deal with swarms of Zerglings without being torn apart.
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Aug 6, 2023 05:19
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the sooner we finish the protoss missions, the sooner i can forget about them
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Aug 6, 2023 05:38
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The sheer number of campaign mods that make some sort of attempt to make Predators usable is astounding. Two best attempts I've seen have been making them cost only minerals and 2 supply in Legacy of the Void Terran Edition, and most recently... giving them cliff-jumping in a new Nova Covert Ops mod. I don't know what else the latter has done for them, but that alone looks delightful.
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Aug 6, 2023 06:03
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BisbyWorl posted:For an additional 50/25 you can get a Siege Tank instead and deal with swarms of Zerglings without being torn apart. Range is the best stat etc etc. Honestly if a melee unit is gonna cost more than a zealot, it needs to be at least comparable, and the list of features that would be added to most units is surprisingly large. At a base level, even just the charge that zealots get is so useful that I feel like it should be standard on almost all melee units.
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Aug 6, 2023 07:44
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ROCK ROCK ROCK ROCKBisbyWorl posted:
Alcoholism Narrative Reference Counter: 7 BisbyWorl posted:I go for the refineries and the Hercules. Automated Refineries will let me instantly max out my gas income at the start of the mission, and will let me save 3 supply per geyser by the end. The Herc, meanwhile, is hindered by the fact that the campaign rarely designs missions around drop play. In fact, Heart and Legacy both completely remove transports from the player's arsenal! I mostly grab it because the Predator is even worse. The Hercules utterly trivializes a few missions in WoL and I highly recommend taking it for a spin in The Moebius Factor. It's a weird gimmick, but when it works, it loving works. Also Automated Refineries are SO nice, goodness gracious. Slam-pick, every time.
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Aug 6, 2023 08:30
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Yeah, sure. Y'know you might wanna try laying off the sauce and getting some shuteye once in a while, eh?
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I always find the economy to take too long starting in WoL missions so I slam pick the double scvs to get it up quick. Before it unlocks I usually build a second cc just to get them out.
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Aug 6, 2023 08:41
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The predator is fermenting garbage. The only things not crushing it are groups of lightly armed and unarmored targets. It seems more like the Dominion developed it as "crowd control" to mow down riots and protests rather than something intended for a battlefield.
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Aug 6, 2023 08:53
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The Moebius mod made it cost only minerals and gave it an anti-psionic niche. I still don't remember it having any impact when i tried it.
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Aug 6, 2023 09:15
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Personally whenever I see the Predator I think how much I needed an anti-light armor option, since up to this point I only have Firebats, Firebats with a driver's licence, immobile floor Firebats, and fast Firebats with grenades.
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Aug 6, 2023 11:52
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Poil posted:The predator is fermenting garbage. The only things not crushing it are groups of lightly armed and unarmored targets. It seems more like the Dominion developed it as "crowd control" to mow down riots and protests rather than something intended for a battlefield. Does makes sense, they do love killing civilians from what we've seen.
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Aug 6, 2023 12:01
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I might say the Protoss tech choice here is the most difficult in the game. They're both really good. Free Vespene vs 2x speed saturation is a tough one. The Predator, though, really is the strangest and goofiest unit in the game. I think it's the only campaign unit from WoL that never makes an appearance in Co-op (actually, Spectres don't either, I don't think, but given that they're more a variant of another unit that feels different?). It's just yet another tool in the "murder weak, light enemies" arsenal and the tools we already have there (Hellions, Firebats, Reapers) don't have much use as is. Add on what others said about its gas cost and it's just really unattractive. Hercules is 95% useless but that's still an improvement. It's helpful on certain maps like Moebius Factor and Supernova and can be good for players who like to use Siege Tanks offensively. It'd be better if it didn't have such high tech requirements and didn't need, what, like six supply? But you can still get some mileage out of it.
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Aug 6, 2023 14:01
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Predator is a dumb meme unit, Hercules is a cool meme unit
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Aug 6, 2023 14:32
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JohnKilltrane posted:Hercules is 95% useless but that's still an improvement. It's helpful on certain maps like Moebius Factor and Supernova and can be good for players who like to use Siege Tanks offensively. It'd be better if it didn't have such high tech requirements and didn't need, what, like six supply? But you can still get some mileage out of it. 
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Aug 6, 2023 14:40
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Predators are good when you can use Hercs to air-drop them
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Aug 6, 2023 14:44
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Hwurmp posted:Predators are good when you can use Hercs to air-drop them Is that a skirmish only thing? cause at least in the campaign it's impossible.
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Aug 6, 2023 16:11
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stryth posted:Is that a skirmish only thing? cause at least in the campaign it's impossible. I think that's the joke.
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Aug 6, 2023 16:22
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Felinoid posted:I think that's the joke. Ah, I've only ever played the campaigns, so I honestly don't know how the game or the units work outside of that.
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Aug 6, 2023 16:28
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biosterous posted:the sooner we finish the protoss missions, the sooner i can forget about them My thought exactly.
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Aug 6, 2023 20:41
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We should do tosh's nonsense, and not anyone else's.
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Aug 6, 2023 21:35
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We should stab Tosh in the back because I want to see how the game justifies stabbing him in the back, which is going to be infinitely more instructive in the bad writing department than merely playing nice.
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Aug 6, 2023 21:46
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Kith posted:Alcoholism Narrative Reference Counter: 7 Weren't there two of them in that update? Somebody said that he looked rougher than usual...
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Aug 6, 2023 22:54
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SIGSEGV posted:We should stab Tosh in the back because I want to see how the game justifies stabbing him in the back, which is going to be infinitely more instructive in the bad writing department than merely playing nice.
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Aug 6, 2023 23:02
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Tosh did nothing wrong
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Aug 6, 2023 23:29
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I'd like to comment, but I'd rather wait until we actually confirm we're going in that direction. Until then, we're rather getting ahead of ourselves, aren't we? What's all this talk about stabbing Tosh, he's just offering us another mission, right?
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Aug 6, 2023 23:34
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has anyone made a tosh 2.0 joke yet
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ponder the
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Aug 7, 2023 01:28
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 Having grown up near the ACTUAL Folsom prison, it really weirded me out to see it in this game.
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Aug 7, 2023 01:43
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I think Tosh's next mission is the most fun in the entire WoL campaign. Naturally I voted for more protoss.
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Aug 7, 2023 07:38
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Isn't there like a time limit on one of the missions? Specifically the terran refugees mission? Iirc, there will be something bad happening if you wait to do it too long. Will that also happen if we "waste" time with the protoss crystal?
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Aug 7, 2023 08:11
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painedforever posted:Weren't there two of them in that update? Somebody said that he looked rougher than usual... I'm only counting explicit references. "Rougher than usual" can mean a lot of things - Raynor is a fugitive and a rebel leader, after all. Torrannor posted:Isn't there like a time limit on one of the missions? Nope. Sometimes they're implied, but you do whatever the gently caress you want.
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Voted for Jailbreak, because I've changed my mind, you need a break for something fun before more The (Character) Assassination of Zeratul by the Coward Activision-Blizzard. It is a legit cool mission, I just wish it was longer. Voting for the siding with Tosh version, of course.
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